You are wrong, the 5c was introduced at $550 US, the same mid-tier price where the 6 is currently selling.
I agree they wouldn't drop the price when the 7 arrives.
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You are wrong, the 5c was introduced at $550 US, the same mid-tier price where the 6 is currently selling.
I agree they wouldn't drop the price when the 7 arrives.
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I very much doubt that Apple is going to announce a 5se and a "6c". All evidence so far have suggested only one phone, the iPhone 5se (special edition) which will not be your usual "entry level phone" but might rather boast better specs (A9/M9).
If Apple's India website is anything to go by, they do not sell 4s or 5c in India. In fact in Tim Cook's own words: "Apple does not need to launch a less expensive device with pared-down features to entice buyers in these markets (i.e. India), as research suggests people will spend more for a better experience".
Thus, only 3 iterations: 7 (& 7+), 6s (& 6s+), and 5se after September 2016 does make sense.
I think if you go back and look there have been conflicting rumors, using both the name "5se" and "6c" and different specs.
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/01/11/iphone-5e-a8-1gb-ram-apple-pay-volte/
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/12/29/iphone-6c-larger-battery-vs-iphone-5s/
They are not going to a call a phone with the feature set of the 6S, less 3D touch, a "5"-anything. And bottom line, if Apple only introduces a $450 4" phone, then they are leaving money on the table from customers who could afford to pay $650, but prefer a 4" phone.
There was just an article on this blog stating that Apple just discontinued the 4s and 5c in India this month. SO of course it wouldn't be on the India website today.
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/02/17/apple-withdraws-iphone-4s-5c-india/
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The iPhone 5C took the place of what would have been the year-old iPhone 5
They basically took the guts of the iPhone 5 and put it in a colorful plastic shell and sold it for at $550 US. Then the iPhone 5 was removed from Apple's line-up (retailers still carried them until supply ran out)
So even though the iPhone 5C was a "new" model... it was in name only. It was still the 2nd-tier iPhone.
The 5C was between the $650 iPhone 5S and the older $450 iPhone 4S.
I'm still torn on where they would place the 5SE next month.
It's faster than an iPhone 6... but has a smaller screen. Those should cancel out and then $550 would make sense. And the iPhone 5S would still be $450 next month too. I'm fine with that.
But in September... the iPhone 6S will have the same internal specs yet a bigger screen. They wouldn't charge the same amount of money for the 5SE and the 6S... would they?
So maybe they drop the price of the 5SE to $500 in September... and keep the 5S at $450 for a little longer too?
Ugh... this has gotten far too complicated
It was easy when there was one new model per year... and the older models dropped $100 each year.
Now they're introducing a new model at the six-month mark... and it's supposedly a very powerful phone but with a smaller screen. Then in another six months... new models and older models that have to be priced somehow.
Eventually, it has to. In the US, millions of people are still on subsidized plans and many of them won't like the full price they think they will pay this year and next. Many people will hold on to their current iPhones until they have no other choice but to replace it, based on the high full prices. A similar looking iPhone 7 with marginal improvements won't be enough to push them to pay laptop prices or close to it for a smartphone every couple of years in a mature market where these necessities of modern life are now viewed more as commodities.
While I've been desperately hoping for a new 4'' model, this design kinda is a deal-breaker for me and I do see myself ending up with a 6S (or 7), after all. I know many love the 5S design - I don't. I hate those hard edges, my hand always hurts after holding it for a while (my hand is small enough so that one of the corners actually presses into my palm). I came from the iPhone 4 (with a bumper
As I said above, I'm the exact opposite, I just hate the square edges. Curved edges (or round back) are just so much more comfortable to hold in any regard. I personally think what makes the 6 more difficult to hold - with or without curved edges - really is the size...
Fair enough. I always use a case (because clumsy), and it's easier to find a case that softens the sharp edges than one that squares the curves.
It's very hard to try to figure out what the lineup will be when this comes out, A8 or A9? Will it be sold along with the 6 at $550? Or replace the 5s? Would they discontinue the 6 or 6 Plus to simplify the lineup? I think if it doesn't take the $450 spot it will be lowered in September.
Then a brand new phone in 2016 looks like the iPhone 5 from 2012. I think I would have done it in a different way. First of all based on the CPU its an iPhone 6S device to me. I would think Apple releases just 3 phones 6S in 3 sizes, 4" 5" 6". Also this name is sounding stupid. What does that mean SE?
Are you in the US? Have you been to a carrier store lately?
Old price tags:
$199
$99
$0
New price tags:
$27/month
$31/month
$35/month
Same idea... different implementation. You were always paying for the phone yourself even with "subsidies"
You didn't have to pay "laptop prices" then... and you don't have to pay "laptop prices" now.
Apple doesn't have to lower prices because US carriers are using a different payment plan.
I only mentioned it because other Apple products have lowered their prices over time... while the iPhone hasn't. It was really just an observation... not a suggestion.
Maybe in other countries someone cannot afford paying full-price for a $650 flagship iPhone.
Well... they can't afford paying full-price for a flagship Galaxy S7 Edge either.
They need to start calling it "Mini", otherwise how is the naming going to fit in with future models? They should have kept it iPhone Mini/iPhone/iPhone Plus, iPad Mini/iPad/iPad Plus. Steve liked to keep the model lineup simple and consistent.
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Now, we will see how many of the people complaining about 4.7" screens being too big will put their wallet where their mouth is...
As someone who finds the 5 the perfect size and the perfect design, this news makes me very happy. I would've been depressed had this come out looking like that goofy 6/6S. I prefer the 4-5 leica-ish design.
The 4" phone doesn't need to change price at all in Septemebr. It keeps the same price until next March, when the next 4" is released.
At Apple, we make the worlds greatest products. By recycling old design and selling it at a premium.
But what price will it be?
If the iPhone 5SE has the A9 processor and Apple pay... that is SO much better than the 5S it is supposed to replace.
Would they really release it at $450 next month?
Let's be clear... it will have the SAME processor as the current flagship iPhone. That's why $450 seems unlikely.
But if they sell it for $550 now and keep the price until next March... it will be the same price as the price-reduced iPhone 6S that has a bigger screen in September. That seems weird too... two phones... same specs... but different sized screens.
There are issues for both the $450 and $550 price points next month and later this year.
Unless we get into $50 price increments... I don't see a place for this phone.
And I haven't been following the rumors of two 4" phones. The first time I heard it was from you. If true... that's more price-points that they have to manage.
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I also wonder if they would replace the 6 with this. That would possibly create more sales from people who want the larger screens as they would no longer just be able to buy last years models. That would also suggest a $550 starting price, which was where the 5C was introduced at btw.
$550 price tag sounds quite likely
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The iPhone 5C took the place of what would have been the year-old iPhone 5
They basically took the guts of the iPhone 5 and put it in a colorful plastic shell and sold it for at $550 US. Then the iPhone 5 was removed from Apple's line-up (retailers still carried them until supply ran out)
So even though the iPhone 5C was a "new" model... it was in name only. It was still the 2nd-tier iPhone.
The 5C was between the $650 iPhone 5S and the older $450 iPhone 4S.
I'm still torn on where they would place the 5SE next month.
It's faster than an iPhone 6... but has a smaller screen. Those should cancel out and then $550 would make sense. And the iPhone 5S would still be $450 next month too. I'm fine with that.
But in September... the iPhone 6S will have the same internal specs yet a bigger screen. They wouldn't charge the same amount of money for the 5SE and the 6S... would they?
So maybe they drop the price of the 5SE to $500 in September... and keep the 5S at $450 for a little longer too?
Ugh... this has gotten far too complicated
It was easy when there was one new model per year... and the older models dropped $100 each year.
Now they're introducing a new model at the six-month mark... and it's supposedly a very powerful phone but with a smaller screen. Then in another six months... new models and older models that have to be priced somehow.
Complicate indeed
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I'm sorry, I had no idea about the 6c. I thought that confusion was more or less cleared after the iPhone 5se "special edition" name rumour. My bad.
As much as I love my iPhone 5, why can't we just have three sizes of iPhone 7 instead of coming up with even more confusing products? Are they literally putting a weaker chip (that of 5s) into a shell that's larger than the 7s?
I keep my sceptic hat on and assume iPhone 7 will come in three sizes.
I keep my sceptic hat on and assume iPhone 7 will come in three sizes.
