do you really think gizmodo benefits from this in the long-run?
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no other tech site (in the U.S.) will even come close to doing this.
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Details of Lost Next-Generation iPhone Saga Revealed in Search Warrant Affidavit
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do you really think gizmodo benefits from this in the long-run?
ha
no other tech site (in the U.S.) will even come close to doing this.
+1
Steve Jobs reminds me of the love-hate relationship I had with Brett Favre growing up. Both are legendary, except one threw a lot of interceptions and the other is a f*cking lunatic.
How do you nominate "post of the day" here?
Thank you for the lulz!Also, I have to lol at the number of time outs being thrown around to people in this thread
Why is everyone assuming that the phone was lost ?
Mr Powell even stated that he put the phone in his bag and place it on the phone. The bag did get knocked over once and the phone may have fallen out.
Is it possible that Hogan saw Mr Powell using the phone or overheard them talking about the phone and knew that it could be valuable. Considering that the drunk person picked up the phone and gave it to Hogan suggests that they were seated in the same area along the bar. When the bag got knocked over, it is not like it was kicked across the room. How would the phone go flying out of the bag and wind up somewhere where Mr Powell couldn't see the phone sitting on the floor?
I can see a few scenarios here....
1 - Hogan was sitting next to Powell at the bar and knew the phone was a next generation phone. So he intentionally knocked the bag over and stole the phone from the bag. Then made up the story about having some guy give him the phone. Powell stated he was at the bar until 15 mins before closing. Hogan stated that when the drunk guy handed him the phone, asked around, and waited around a couple of hours to see if anyone would claim the phone.
2 - Being a student, Hogan saw the phone on the floor and picked it up without asking who it belonged to. Thinking that he could use the phone for his own use or sell it on eBay. The affidavit stated that he was sharing a room with another guy, so it shows that Hogan was not wealthy.
3 - Hogan seems like a shady character, he probably stole the phone from the bag directly. The affidavit stated that Powell was sitting at the bar. Gizmodo reported that Hogan was sitting next to Powell and that a drunk guy that had been sitting next to Hogan came back from the bathroom and found the phone on the seat next to Hogan ( where Powell was sitting ). Hogan was at the bar, and could have very easily asked the bartender about the phone. I suspect the mysterious drunk guy that handed Hogan the phone was a made up story as well.
Mr Powell even stated that he put the phone in his bag and place it on the phone. The bag did get knocked over once and the phone may have fallen out.
Is it possible that Hogan saw Mr Powell using the phone or overheard them talking about the phone and knew that it could be valuable. Considering that the drunk person picked up the phone and gave it to Hogan suggests that they were seated in the same area along the bar. When the bag got knocked over, it is not like it was kicked across the room. How would the phone go flying out of the bag and wind up somewhere where Mr Powell couldn't see the phone sitting on the floor?
I can see a few scenarios here....
1 - Hogan was sitting next to Powell at the bar and knew the phone was a next generation phone. So he intentionally knocked the bag over and stole the phone from the bag. Then made up the story about having some guy give him the phone. Powell stated he was at the bar until 15 mins before closing. Hogan stated that when the drunk guy handed him the phone, asked around, and waited around a couple of hours to see if anyone would claim the phone.
2 - Being a student, Hogan saw the phone on the floor and picked it up without asking who it belonged to. Thinking that he could use the phone for his own use or sell it on eBay. The affidavit stated that he was sharing a room with another guy, so it shows that Hogan was not wealthy.
3 - Hogan seems like a shady character, he probably stole the phone from the bag directly. The affidavit stated that Powell was sitting at the bar. Gizmodo reported that Hogan was sitting next to Powell and that a drunk guy that had been sitting next to Hogan came back from the bathroom and found the phone on the seat next to Hogan ( where Powell was sitting ). Hogan was at the bar, and could have very easily asked the bartender about the phone. I suspect the mysterious drunk guy that handed Hogan the phone was a made up story as well.
Oh, the cops are supposed to investigate every quack theory? Seriously? You'd bet on a crazy conspiracy over the stupidity of kids in their very early 20's? It would have been a lot cheaper and simpler to just set up a dummy corporation (which they supposedly do to secure websites, etc., in advance of obtaining new trademarks), buy out Giz, and then just shut them all down if that's what they were after.
Bear in mind, while Jon Stewart was publicly running his mouth, he did not have all the facts. His tune might change a bit now... or maybe not.
BTW, I think Jon is awesome, he's just off-base on this one.
101 Economics
It costs Apple sales because a significant number of people have heard about this via mainstream media (a huge portion of Iphone owners don't read sites like Mac Rumors), so now they will wait until the new phone comes out instead of buying one now. So it really hurts the current quarter (this is another reason why Android is outselling the Iphone this quarter). Also, it hurts Apple because the competition is able to compete with the new phone a lot sooner than they would have been since Apple has sorta shown their cards.
I know people are going to argue that if they don't buy the 3GS they will by the Iphone G4...so it doesn't hurt sales in the long haul. The problem with that argument is it leaves Apple with an abundance of 3Gs' and 3GS. This hurts their forecasts significantly, which affects their stock price, and Apple will have to significantly cut the cost of the older units to not lose money on them.
It costs Apple sales because a significant number of people have heard about this via mainstream media (a huge portion of Iphone owners don't read sites like Mac Rumors), so now they will wait until the new phone comes out instead of buying one now. So it really hurts the current quarter (this is another reason why Android is outselling the Iphone this quarter). Also, it hurts Apple because the competition is able to compete with the new phone a lot sooner than they would have been since Apple has sorta shown their cards.
I know people are going to argue that if they don't buy the 3GS they will by the Iphone G4...so it doesn't hurt sales in the long haul. The problem with that argument is it leaves Apple with an abundance of 3Gs' and 3GS. This hurts their forecasts significantly, which affects their stock price, and Apple will have to significantly cut the cost of the older units to not lose money on them.
Did anyone bother to look up the site of the "bar"? It's a specialty store and beer garden. It's not Mos Eisley's cantina. I still would have left my number with the barkeep, but people are talking like Gray went somewhere seedy and acted like a dumb frat kid. He went with his uncle, and the dumb kids are the ones who tried to hide evidence in a church, a bush, and a gas station.
OK, so they said, "we are offering you this much money as it might be stolen, but we'll pay you even more if it is really stolen." If that does not sound like "trafficking in stolen goods" to you, nothing else would.
And, for those that didn't and will point to Powell being there to within 15 minutes of closing - they closed at 10PM on the day the phone was lost. I don't know Gray, but I'm getting tired of everyone trying to blame him ceaselessly. If he had lost it at a Chili's or an Applebee's most of them would be on his side. Because it was a German beer garden, he's suddenly a wanted man with the death penalty awaiting him in 3 systems.
I will repeat what I've said in multiple topics on this story!! It is my opinion that Brian Hogan is a THIEF and he is of LOW MORAL CHARACTER with NO PERSONAL HONOR!
And anyone who STILL believes Hogan didn't do anything wrong is also of low moral character or just plain stupid.
Mark
And anyone who STILL believes Hogan didn't do anything wrong is also of low moral character or just plain stupid.
Mark
You didn't quite get it.
Well, what was required in this case, balls or brain?
Anyone who can think clearly while holding a great amount of money would have figured that he/she cannot hide once the phone goes public.
Meaning stupid people (those not be able to think clearly …) will repeat the same.
Look around you.
You do realise that you could be sued for libel for what you've just written? If I were you I'd ask Arn to take your comments down, before Hogan's lawyers try and claim back from you some of the massive fine he's likely to have to pay when all this is over.
I think the funny thing about this, is that Gizmodo may also be done for.
Think about it. Giz is probably not going to be invited to press events at Apple anymore. This means no more live blogging keynotes, no early hands on etc.
In addition, Apple is probably going to end up suing Gizmodo for damages (and rightfully so), especially since Giz dismantled and broke it.
I would probably give Giz a pass if they had just taken pictures of it, not paid for it and then given it to apple right away. No big deal.
But not only did they buy it, they dismantled it, then refused to give it back when asked.
And, from what I can tell, attempted to extort info and scoops from Apple.
I already knew that Gizmodo was full of *******s but wow, **** that.
To all the people who say the engineer was obviously smashed when he lost the phone and so was an idiot:
I'm assuming he'll be arrested for drunk driving then? You know, since he stated to the police that drove home after leaving the bar.
Morons.
I'm assuming he'll be arrested for drunk driving then? You know, since he stated to the police that drove home after leaving the bar.
Morons.
Why did Gizmodo link to the affidavit?
LOL... so now Gizmodo is quiet???
Those hit counter hungry "Bloggers" have been milking this story with every twist and turn for profitable ad clicks...
Suddenly quiet over there with the release of the affidavit.
LOL... so now Gizmodo is quiet???
Those hit counter hungry "Bloggers" have been milking this story with every twist and turn for profitable ad clicks...
Suddenly quiet over there with the release of the affidavit.
People seem to not realize that the law enforcement involved was not your typical police department. It was a "special task force" called R.E.A.C.T (Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer Team). Their mission is "To reduce the incidence of high technology crime through the apprehension of the professional organizers of large scale criminal activities."
This is the type of crime they are supposed to investigate. Check out their website at http://www.reacttf.org/.
REACT Investigates these Crimes:
Theft - where computer equipment
or high technology is the primary
target of the crime.
Identity Theft - specializing in
complex investigations with
organized criminals.
Trademark Violations, including
trade secrets
On-line crimes such as auction
frauds, etc.
I've tried thinking really, really hard, but I just can't make my brain accept the mindless twaddle you are putting forward. Sorry, guess I'm just hampered by my reliance on things like facts, reason, common sense...
100%. And Hogan, if he had any brains at all, would have tried to contact Apple's competitors instead of blogs.
Then again, for all we know Hogan did try to contact Apple's competitors, only to learn that multi-billion corporations didn't think it was worth risking the company on tech that would be avail this June.
Seriously, Hogan is an incredible tool.
You're right. It's Apple expanding it's boundaries to include new sectors of industry. In this case, private mercenaries
If I were you I'd go and look up the definition of libel, which is a false and defamatory statement about another person. You accused him of being a shady character who deliberately stole the phone in a premeditated fashion. That sounds pretty defamatory to me.
Steve Jobs = Willy Wonka
Lam wrote. "The thing is, Apple PR has been cold to us lately. It affected my ability to do my job right at iPad launch. So we had to go outside and find our stories like this one, very aggressively."
Steve (playing the part of Willy Wonka) - "You know, this really is my fault and I want to make it up to you Lam. Here's your golden ticket and allow me to give you a star-studded tour of our most secret place of Apple, Inc. Bring your cameras and don't forget Jason . . ."
Ya right! There's a reason why this only happens in the movies.
Lam wrote. "The thing is, Apple PR has been cold to us lately. It affected my ability to do my job right at iPad launch. So we had to go outside and find our stories like this one, very aggressively."
Steve (playing the part of Willy Wonka) - "You know, this really is my fault and I want to make it up to you Lam. Here's your golden ticket and allow me to give you a star-studded tour of our most secret place of Apple, Inc. Bring your cameras and don't forget Jason . . ."
Ya right! There's a reason why this only happens in the movies.