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Details of Lost Next-Generation iPhone Saga Revealed in Search Warrant Affidavit
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It might have been mentioned before, I did not read 17 pages of comments (after reading the whole PDF) ... but is anyone else bugged that 5000$ and 2500$ do not add up to 8500$ ???
It is in the paragraph where roomate says Hogan showed her a camera box with 5000$
Now I am really curious how Steve will handle this ... maybe like 'remember this movie 'untraceable', where people's curiosity turned into website hits and killed people??? Well, you have done it!!! ... We have taken out the front facing camera and the photocam is now back at 1 mpx ... and we stay with AT&T for another 5 years ... This will teach you about checking those websites in the future'
Semi-related ... does anyone recall the keynote he introduced the 'sunflower' iMac (or IKEA lamp model) ... and the picture had leaked the night before ... he was humorous about it ... 'in case you have not seen it yet' ...
I really want this 4G (I never liked the curvey / plasticky look of the 3G family) ... though I have little use for the new features ... i will not get any kind of good plan to make video chat viable ... it is a very cool 'nice to have' feature ... but that is pretty much it ...
It is in the paragraph where roomate says Hogan showed her a camera box with 5000$
Now I am really curious how Steve will handle this ... maybe like 'remember this movie 'untraceable', where people's curiosity turned into website hits and killed people??? Well, you have done it!!! ... We have taken out the front facing camera and the photocam is now back at 1 mpx ... and we stay with AT&T for another 5 years ... This will teach you about checking those websites in the future'
Semi-related ... does anyone recall the keynote he introduced the 'sunflower' iMac (or IKEA lamp model) ... and the picture had leaked the night before ... he was humorous about it ... 'in case you have not seen it yet' ...
I really want this 4G (I never liked the curvey / plasticky look of the 3G family) ... though I have little use for the new features ... i will not get any kind of good plan to make video chat viable ... it is a very cool 'nice to have' feature ... but that is pretty much it ...
And I though I like conspiracies...
3. I think we can all agree that Apple hardly needs advertising
2. You really think they care so much about Gizmodo? And I don't see the benefit for Apple
1. Well, this poor guy got called even a snitch now...
I'm waiting for him to bring Gray Powell out on stage to introduce the iPhone G4. That would be pretty incredible.
Unknown man comes on stage to start the keynote to applause. "Welcome to WWDC and the Apple keynote, my name is Gray Powell." laughter/applause/boos "We have lots of incredible announcements to make this morning. Let's get this keynote started." Pats his pockets looking for something. "[to an unseen someone off the side of the stage] I can't find the clicker." Steve Jobs comes onstage with the clicker and gives Powell a friendly push off the stage.
It'll never happen. More than a slight allusion to the lost phone like "as you may have seen on the web..." would surprise me.
Wow. This Hogan dude sounds like a real tool and NOT a very nice person. And to connect the device to his roommates computer instead of his own? What an ass. He sounds like the worst roommate ever. Hopefully she won't have to worry about him as a roommate much longer. If there's any justice, he'll have a new residence soon. One with bars on the windows and a lock on the door that locks from the OUTSIDE. And then someone can lose the key. Cause it sounds like this person has no redeeming value whatsoever.
Someone could find the key, sell it to someone else for $5000, post pictures of it beside its new owner online, damage the key beyond repair in an attempt to disassemble the key to milk the story it and render it inoperable leaving Hogan with no way out of the cell.
THAT would be some justice!
"We tried to return it, but Apple wouldn't take it back"
This document proves that these guys who took that phone were jerks from the get-go. Anybody defending these jerks on the grounds that they weren't really stealing needs to have a read of this document. They say that they hung around to see if anybody claimed the phone, but according to Powell he was at the bar until near closing. I am guessing he assumed the phone was still in his bag when he left.
Incidentally, I think Powell's story indicates something that could happen to any of us. I feel bad for the guy. The only thing I think he could have done better was keep his phone in his front pocket instead of a bag -- especially when it is worth that much to Apple. But of course I am saying that with 20/20 hindsight.
When Apple chose to field test a prototype they assumed the risk of this happening and has to assume the responsibility of the loss as a whole -- not use Gray Powell as a scapegoat. I'm glad to hear that so far he has not been found to have done anything wrong.
All I can say is that if this was my iPhone that got lost, found, sold and then vandalized even after those in possession were aware of my identity as the owner of the phone that I would be calling it theft.
This document proves that these guys who took that phone were jerks from the get-go. Anybody defending these jerks on the grounds that they weren't really stealing needs to have a read of this document. They say that they hung around to see if anybody claimed the phone, but according to Powell he was at the bar until near closing. I am guessing he assumed the phone was still in his bag when he left.
Incidentally, I think Powell's story indicates something that could happen to any of us. I feel bad for the guy. The only thing I think he could have done better was keep his phone in his front pocket instead of a bag -- especially when it is worth that much to Apple. But of course I am saying that with 20/20 hindsight.
When Apple chose to field test a prototype they assumed the risk of this happening and has to assume the responsibility of the loss as a whole -- not use Gray Powell as a scapegoat. I'm glad to hear that so far he has not been found to have done anything wrong.
All I can say is that if this was my iPhone that got lost, found, sold and then vandalized even after those in possession were aware of my identity as the owner of the phone that I would be calling it theft.
Chen and Hogan will NOT be charged!
This is Apple's evil plan of ripping the free benefits of the press and free advertising. Apple is playing along like they're dumbfounded until the last minute and decides to drop all charges. I have no doubt this is exactly Apple's plan.
Charging these two good Samaritans will only mislead other companies to file charges against anyone that found their products. This also lead people to behave like Apple (a secret org) when they found something. Normally, we want to encourage good behavior by returning something we found. But if we found something and get a lawsuit, we aren't going to return anything. Don't you guys see that this case is (or was) an honest lost and found case and played out by Apple. Apple being the director.
I understand that you're suppose not to sell trade secrets or buy, but if you found it. You didn't commit a crime. If an employee at Apple told Chen that he downloaded the codes for iPhone OS and want to sell it for $5million, then there's a problem.
But if you found the codes in a bar, its your to keep or return as long as you don't produce or infringe on their copyrighted material.
Let's see Apple go after the Vietnamese since their leaked iphone looks more like a ready-to-sell.
Case and point. This one guy found Dr.Pepper's secret formula. Dr.Pepper didn't file charge against him. Google Dr.Pepper's secret formula and you'll know.
This is Apple's evil plan of ripping the free benefits of the press and free advertising. Apple is playing along like they're dumbfounded until the last minute and decides to drop all charges. I have no doubt this is exactly Apple's plan.
Charging these two good Samaritans will only mislead other companies to file charges against anyone that found their products. This also lead people to behave like Apple (a secret org) when they found something. Normally, we want to encourage good behavior by returning something we found. But if we found something and get a lawsuit, we aren't going to return anything. Don't you guys see that this case is (or was) an honest lost and found case and played out by Apple. Apple being the director.
I understand that you're suppose not to sell trade secrets or buy, but if you found it. You didn't commit a crime. If an employee at Apple told Chen that he downloaded the codes for iPhone OS and want to sell it for $5million, then there's a problem.
But if you found the codes in a bar, its your to keep or return as long as you don't produce or infringe on their copyrighted material.
Let's see Apple go after the Vietnamese since their leaked iphone looks more like a ready-to-sell.
Case and point. This one guy found Dr.Pepper's secret formula. Dr.Pepper didn't file charge against him. Google Dr.Pepper's secret formula and you'll know.
Dude, what planet are you living in? Americans love winners, not lovable losers. OK, maybe Cubs fans are the exceptions here.
We are all about strength and retribution. We not only favor the "eye for an eye" option every time, we also despise those who propose "turning the other cheek." I mean it is already a bit disappointing that so far Apple has gone with a meek, legal means only approach. I am not thinking of a "broken bones, missing fingers" kind of response; that could be a bit crude. More along the lines of "my cable TV has gone bonkers, I can only get C-span", "electric surge has fried my laptop yesterday", "the faucet in the shower is shocking me every morning", "my car's honk is stuck, I cannot believe neighbors called to get it towed" style...I don't see how this could effect sales on a product that is not yet available to the general public. People choose to buy now or choose to wait for products all the time.
Are you privy to the terms of the agreement between Powell and Apple when he left campus with the phone?
The very fact that Apple will terminate an employee for even minor infractions against NDAs and other contracts, without taking into consideration any mitigating circumstances, leads us strongly to believe that Powell is still employed because he was not overly irresponsible with the phone and followed "what happens if phone goes missing" protocol precisely.
If losing an iPhone in the field was a fireable offense, he would be fired.
I don't think that Powell is as central to the investigation as you make him out to be. The only thing he is really important for is to demonstrate that the phone was his and that he didn't voluntarily hand it over to the criminal.
If Apple fires him over it, do you really think he would commit perjury just to stick it to Apple? doubtful.
Since nobody has responded to this yet...
It's seemed to me all along that these guys were clearly doing something criminal, so don't take this as a defense of their actions. And in theory, yes, Apple's competitors could now have a head start on competing with this new phone.
But in all honesty, what did we learn from Giz's big "scoop"? Nothing concrete about the processor. Nothing at all about the graphics processor or RAM. No CDMA radio. Something vague about how they thought the screen looked like it probably had a higher resolution than the current iPhone. And a front-facing camera.
Pretty much the only actual surprise here was the form factor. This is interesting, to be sure, but hardly something that HTC will now be leaping to copy. (The front-facing camera is not a new or unique feature.)
This is a troll/joke, right?
California law (and the laws of most other states, I might add) disagrees.
I call 'troll' on this idiotic post.
They are losing sales now, on the current iPhone. People choose to buy or wait based on different factors. Gizmodo introduced one more factor, thus changing the buyers' decisions.
Well this clarifies everything I think. It makes it obvious that Gizmodo knew very well what they were doing. They are a tech magazine after all, it's their job to find and write about stuff like this, but so far every Apple-related magazine was WITH Apple, not against them. I understand that Gizmodo wanted hits and money, it makes sense, but it still makes them look like money-hungry "do whatever it takes" journalists, and everyone hates those. You can do a useful, helpful job in your life and earn money with it, or you can be a total jerk, only think about money, and earn even more money.
And this, my friends, is why I always say, "Never do crack while posting on the web."
What new factor? That a newer, better iPhone will be released in June?
How is this any different than last year? or the year before that?
If anything, I think Steve Jobs' comment about making better phones that will compete with Android and that the next iPhone is an "A+" upgrade is a much better reason to wait than this unattractive prototype.
Of course we knew that there would be a new iPhone in June/July. However Average Joe (most of them) doesn't, but this has been in the normal press everywhere. They don't read Macrumors or Gizmodo or Engadget so they don't know that Jobs have said that there will be a A+ upgrade. But this have been reported in the media they do read (or watch or listen).
