I agree. People take their phones all over the place. So I would expect phones that are being field tested to be out and about in real world places too. It would be nice to think that when people find something that doesn't belong to them they make the effort to hand it back to the owner or to an agency who can store it until the owner is found.
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Details of Lost Next-Generation iPhone Saga Revealed in Search Warrant Affidavit
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I agree. People take their phones all over the place. So I would expect phones that are being field tested to be out and about in real world places too. It would be nice to think that when people find something that doesn't belong to them they make the effort to hand it back to the owner or to an agency who can store it until the owner is found.
The document seems to indicate otherwise. But let's let the justice system work it out.
I agree. I'm amazed by the people reading this who don't seem to have any idea of how damning this is... so far. "The only thing they did wrong was getting caught"?
Didn't your mother tell you, keeping something when you could return it its owner is wrong? That you can't sell something that doesn't belong to you? And that you can't buy something from a fence? Where did these people get raised, in a barn?
I will not comment on the former, but the later is very possible.
Literally only two classes of people apply the logic of snitches get stiches.
Children 6-10 years old, and criminals/prisoners.
My B comment was a joke, its clearly not worth sacrificing your company's rep when its doing so well...all over a blog leak. I doubt John Stewart would be defending Hogan anyways.
I thought really hard about your theory. i think you watch too many movies. Did you think really hard? What do you think the blowback to Apple would be if that was discovered?
I'm being neutral, and telling you as clearly as I know: if the case is as good as this makes it seem, there are some people who will get slammer time, or serious probation and a big fine. Then Apple will no doubt take Gizmodo/Gawker Inc to court for civil damages. I don't personally want to cause anybody any grief, but the law is the law.
See, there's racy gossip, and opinion, but there's "the rule of law." Silly me. You can't take things that aren't yours. You can't buy things from people who don't have lawful ownership of the item. Every other periodical that was offered the phone turned it down. No accident. I have no idea what the Gawker lawyer thought they could get away with. Maybe they thought that Jobs wouldn't report the theft.
If the kid had kept it for a while, he could have returned it by convincing people he had just been dumb. Keeping it for three weeks and then selling it to a publicity-hungry website? Really stupid.
See, this is what many of us have been saying from the start. Everyone's been taking the opinion of "Oh, he lost his phone, it's his own fault".
I, and others, had a feeling there was a lot more to it than a simple lost phone, and I personally had a feeling there were a lot of laws being broken along the way. If it were really as simple as the story Gizmodo was telling, I don't know that Apple would have pursued it so strongly. After reading that letter, if I were Steve Jobs, I would have kicked in the freaking door myself.
What a bunch of douchebags.
I, and others, had a feeling there was a lot more to it than a simple lost phone, and I personally had a feeling there were a lot of laws being broken along the way. If it were really as simple as the story Gizmodo was telling, I don't know that Apple would have pursued it so strongly. After reading that letter, if I were Steve Jobs, I would have kicked in the freaking door myself.
What a bunch of douchebags.
Yes, we try to return it to the owner, especially when it's pretty damned obvious that the name engraved on the back of the device is the rightful owner.
Is that the answer you were looking for or were you hoping for some mouth-breathing idiot to come up with some lame-brained excuse that stealing is legal?
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The only thing that might save Hogan, Warner, and Chen is the leaking of this search warrant. We'll see...........
Used to live.
He's probably house hunting in a different country. My guess is that his days as a U.S. technology media employee are over. No charges have yet been filed, so he still has a chance to flee the country.
Apple is not being a bully here. They are doing exactly what they should do. "Prototype stolen. Play ball. Report to law enforcement." Apple is not being heavy handed here. The same thing basically happened when my friends stole a keg, except without the searching of homes.
Journalists pay for exclusive information and access. Not for possession of items.
I read about the story because I can. Giz published, everyone else linked to it. News is news...but only Giz did something illegal. You can't lump all the people who talk about it with the people who do the crime.
Arn you used to be an MD and left to run macrumors? That is awesome. You just became a ray of hope in my life. I still go by my motto "a hard days work for a hard days pay" but sometimes I'd like a hard days work for a hard days play.
Ask for enough money that you can move to a country that does not have extradition with the united states?
Lesson to Gizmodo and Hogan. If you're going to act like criminals, learn to do it better, or else leave it to the professionals. Seriously, could they have screwed this up any worse?
By the way, the snarky letter from Gizmodo ("take it easy on the kid who lost it") looks infinitely more childish in the middle of the detective's report.
They are so out of their league. I really hope they drop the hammer on Gizmodo with this.
By the way, the snarky letter from Gizmodo ("take it easy on the kid who lost it") looks infinitely more childish in the middle of the detective's report.
They are so out of their league. I really hope they drop the hammer on Gizmodo with this.
Is my iPhone 3Gs the next priceless prototype? I don't think so. When ever i go places like to a pool, or dances at the YMCA, my 3GS stays at home, and that cheap ass Nokia comes with me. Why can't the immature drinker do just that? Sorry, but you failed.
Wow, what a jerk. Its your cell phone. Most people would take it with them wherever they go. Can't blame the guy for taking it with him, especially if he was supposed to field test it.
Anyway, I had a feeling Gizmondo was in the wrong and this evidence is only making them look worse. I hope all peoples involved get what they deserve.
From the PDF:" that he will receive a cash bonus from Gizmodo.com in July if and when Apple makes an official product announcement regarding the new iPhone."
Doesn't seem to me that the bet was on the device being an Apple phone, but rather about it being released.
We don't know, but we'll see.
It's possible that they will start talking, which would probably make it worse.
I must admit that I am not surprised that the Gizmodo folks are as stupid as I had envisioned them to be. The Valleywag crew was equally retarded (I was banned from their site because I predicted their eventual demise); the smartest one got out of the tech media racket, long before the site flamed out.
I believe Denton prefers to hire disposable idiots and use them up until their pageview generation capacity is exhausted. The "best" was Nick Douglas: younger, dumber, and more ambitious than anyone else. Occasionally a good writer, but horrible tech journalist. He'll make it in 10-20 years, if he can calm down his ego. He probably can't and someone else with more talent and luck will take the throne that he thinks is his. Such is life.
I've spotted a couple of former Valleywag staffers at an utterly unimportant technology news site. Unsurprisingly, they continued to offer terribly inaccurate reporting.
Look, we have been through this over and over. I feel like a f-cking broken record.
Apple wants their iPhones field-tested. They create a list of employees who are approved to take prototype units off-campus. Gray Powell was on this list (allegedly monitored by Steve himself).
The fact that Apple did not fire Gray Powell after the incident is evidence that they do not think that he was excessively irresponsible about his privilege of carrying around a field-test unit. He did not deliberately disclose the device; he accidentally lost it. Since Apple continues to employ him, they are implicitly stating that he did not exhibit a gross lack of due care. They probably consider that he was functioning within his parameters of normal field-testing and that the loss of his unit was a possible risk.
This affidavit was based on an investigation by the San Mateo County Sheriff's Office, not Apple Inc. Get your accusers straight.