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Details on Jony Ive's 'Very, Very Flat' Design for iOS 7
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So what is the alternative to Skeumorphism? For example the settings icon changes from a gear to the letter S, the Maps icon goes from a pic of a map to the word Map in a box? I don't get how Skeumorphism is a bad thing, it makes things easy to find/understand their function IMO. I think Ive is changing for the sake of change. I'm not looking forward to a flat and low res icon set.
Agreed - the original blue pop ups do look dated now.
I much prefer the grey, semi transparent look off the ones that appear on the lock screen. Don't know why the blue ones didn't adopt that same style.
And as mentioned earlier, the new Yahoo weather app looks fantastic, and would be happy to iOS take those sorts of design cues.
I'll give you wifi, but bluetooth does indeed need monitoring because most devices will not disconnect like they should. I have a speakerphone in my car that refuses to let go of my iphone long after I get home, instead keeping me connected for long, long after the car has stopped moving and I've walked far away from the unit. This requires either physically turning the speakerphone off and then remembering to turn it back on the next time I'm in the car or going into bluetooth settings to turn that off and back on. (Once it's back on, it doesn't reconnect until I'm back in the car.) I think enough people have asked for this setting that maybe we'll have a chance to see some quick-access setting in iOS 7. If you have to do this a lot, you'll realize how ridiculous it is.
Hmmm. Firstly I'm pretty sure the iPhone 4 did HD video.
Siri was on the 4S as was the 8mp camera, so hardly a 'new' innovation for the iPhone 5.
Slimmer and lighter...great, but it doesn't improve the experience of using the phone, people were hardly complaining about the weight of the iPhone 4.
I'm not saying the iPhone 5 isn't a better phone than the iPhone 4 (it is), but its really mostly a 'speed bump' model with a slightly bigger screen.
I agree that most of the new features on the Samsung S4 are flashy and gimmicky, but at least they are trying to innovate, Apple seem to have dried up.
Those 'gimmicks' attract lots of users too (look what SIRI did for Apple), so Apple really need to up their game.
An iPhone 4 will perform most tasks an iPhone 5 will, without much of a degradation to the end user experience and the iPhone 4 is 3 years old.
Better processor, better graphics, better camera is great, but...well... everyone's doing that aren't they!
However the competition is also bringing out new screens, bigger screens (and smaller one's too), expandable storage capacity, NFC etc etc and their UI has narrowed the gap on IOS too.
Apple in contrast have brought out...a lighter phone!
Surely you are getting my gist. I don't see how making everything 'flat' and grey will keep them ahead of the pack.
Between the wife and myself we've owned every iPhone model.
I'm currently on the 64GB 4s and could not be tempted to go to the 5 as its 'improvements' were just too minor for me.
When I use the wife's iPhone 5, I don't find myself longing to upgrade either and to be honest I only upgraded from the 4 to 4S as I need the 64GB of storage (32GB max on iPhone 4).
If things continue to carry on and Apple continue to make only minor upgrades there will simply be less and less reasons to buy a new one.
As flat as Scott Forestall after been shoved under the door?
Seriously though Joni, don't eff this up, not many people think too much of Cook, but you are our lingering hope there, so do you thing man, but don't overdo your thing.
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lol, fantastic comment, brilliant!!!!
Seriously though Joni, don't eff this up, not many people think too much of Cook, but you are our lingering hope there, so do you thing man, but don't overdo your thing.
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lol, fantastic comment, brilliant!!!!
Can't help feeling Steve Jobs knew what he was doing here with a UI looking shiny and playful and hardware being minimalist.
Jobs said the iOS icons looked so good you'd want to lick them,
I don't know if I'll want to lick Jony's buttons...
Jobs said the iOS icons looked so good you'd want to lick them,
I don't know if I'll want to lick Jony's buttons...
I'm not worried.
The last time Ive failed at design was that stupid hockey puck mouse that came with the first iMacs. Which was irrelevant because by the time you actually turned the thing on you'd forgotten what a regular mouse looked like.
That said though, I went out to walmart and bought a copy of the dictionary. I looked up the word "Flat" and it said "Windows 8".
I guess that's why Apple only sold 8 macs so far this year. If you think that's bad...I'm pretty sure I'm one of ten people in the whole the United States with an iPhone 5. I heard they moved less then 100 units world wide because you couldn't open links in the slower version of Safari that Google put out. This year Apple only had about $10k in revenue. Their stock price is on it's way down to the single digits. Meanwhile, Microsoft ended design as a whole with Windows 8 (anything from now on is a copy of Windows 8), and Google cured every cancer that's ever existed with Google Now.
Windows 8. Flat. Apple is doomed. Can't open links in Slowfari. Apple is doomed. No massive analog clock on the homescreen. Apple is doomed. No yellow and brown custom transformers theme. Apple is doomed.
Everything they've ever done since ever has been a bad decision and will ultimately doom Apple. It's game over. Apple even sucks at failing. They keep losing and never die.
Jealousy is an ugly color.
The last time Ive failed at design was that stupid hockey puck mouse that came with the first iMacs. Which was irrelevant because by the time you actually turned the thing on you'd forgotten what a regular mouse looked like.
That said though, I went out to walmart and bought a copy of the dictionary. I looked up the word "Flat" and it said "Windows 8".
I guess that's why Apple only sold 8 macs so far this year. If you think that's bad...I'm pretty sure I'm one of ten people in the whole the United States with an iPhone 5. I heard they moved less then 100 units world wide because you couldn't open links in the slower version of Safari that Google put out. This year Apple only had about $10k in revenue. Their stock price is on it's way down to the single digits. Meanwhile, Microsoft ended design as a whole with Windows 8 (anything from now on is a copy of Windows 8), and Google cured every cancer that's ever existed with Google Now.
Windows 8. Flat. Apple is doomed. Can't open links in Slowfari. Apple is doomed. No massive analog clock on the homescreen. Apple is doomed. No yellow and brown custom transformers theme. Apple is doomed.
Everything they've ever done since ever has been a bad decision and will ultimately doom Apple. It's game over. Apple even sucks at failing. They keep losing and never die.
Jealousy is an ugly color.
So what is the alternative to Skeumorphism? For example the settings icon changes from a gear to the letter S, the Maps icon goes from a pic of a map to the word Map in a box? I don't get how Skeumorphism is a bad thing, it makes things easy to find/understand their function IMO. I think Ive is changing for the sake of change. I'm not looking forward to a flat and low res icon set.
Since when did flat = low res? I feel you are overreacting a little!
Yeah, well that's not really helping the case for 'flatness' IMO.
Looks terrible like something you'd see on Mac OS6!
For those interested, here's a pic of Ableton Flat!
...https://www.ableton.com/en/live/new-in-9/
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Shapes and colors. In other words, Windows 8.
I don't think many people here realize "flat" or "semi-flat" design is pretty much standard in all other UIs and what they are asking for is homogeneity across platforms. Depth, photoreal textures and the language of analogue has differentiated Apple visually for years now, and movement away from that, in the opposite direction, may erase this distinction.
But if the major design question for OS7 is analogue vs "flat," I'm sensing major regression in Apple and a lack of vision for new areas of development. The design team should be taking on newer, more cutting-edge challenges, and resist debating something they decided years ago.
It's not what you can do for your OS.
It's what your OS can do for you.
Film at Duh O'Clock.
I agree with you about animated icons. It is a waste of resources. But the live tiles do have a purpose and do it very well. Of course, one can choose not to use them if the don't want them. I personally don't use the weather live tile because I have a lock screen with all the current info and a 5-day forecast there. But I do use live tiles for other things. It's nice not to have to open an app just to see if you need to address something.
I have a Nokia 920 with WinPhone 8 and an iPad. I love my iPad but as a phone OS iOS is a bit lacking these days. My first smartphone was a WinMo phone back in 2003. I've used just about every flavor of ROM available for flashing. Many, many interfaces - some very good, some bad. Even my Nokia could be better. My favorite was an interface where I had a Home screen (showing email, appts, calls, clock, date, etc.), a swipe left showed utilities widgets, a swipe right showed installed apps, a swipe up had contacts, and and a swipe down had my most used apps. I was never more than one swipe away from anything. I miss that phone a lot.
To be honest, in my opinion, iOS is still far behind.
Google Now is pretty flat.
http://www.google.com/landing/now/
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/google-search/id284815942?mt=8
