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This, on the other hand, is flat. Same icon, no volume or reflections. Simplicity at its finest.

It's an icon. Applying the same philosophy across an entire OS is a different thing entirely. There is a reason for familiarity, texture, depth and contrast in a user interface that goes beyond "looks".
 
For those who have difficulty understanding flat design, or think it's just like Windows 8, here's an excellent example. This is non-flat, or as iOS is now.
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This, on the other hand, is flat. Same icon, no volume or reflections. Simplicity at its finest.
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To me going flat would negate some of what sets apple apart, I will have to see it in person first though.

I know it won't look exactly like windows 8, that's ridiculous, but I hate the flatness of windows 8 and apparently so does a lot of people.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/sto...-computers-shipments-tablets-smartphones.html
 
It's an icon. Applying the same philosophy across an entire OS is a different thing entirely. There is a reason for familiarity, texture, depth and contrast in a user interface that goes beyond "looks".

I see no problem in that. For any design philosophy there are a set of rules. You're worried about iOS retaining its usability, it seems. My belief is that it will look different but be every bit as easy to grasp as it is now.
 
I've is god to me.

I'm happy for him to do anything he wants it'll look better than ios6 there is no doubt.

I just hope things like the clock will finally read the right tie etc, just like the calendar or any android widget. I think we just might see something a bit interesting.

I still don't understand how anyone could find ios confusing. Children of two can pick it up, yet I still think there are people in society for whom even an ipad is beyond. Oh we'll there really is no hope for some people.
 
I'm not worried.

The last time Ive failed at design was that stupid hockey puck mouse that came with the first iMacs. Which was irrelevant because by the time you actually turned the thing on you'd forgotten what a regular mouse looked like.

That said though, I went out to walmart and bought a copy of the dictionary. I looked up the word "Flat" and it said "Windows 8".

I guess that's why Apple only sold 8 macs so far this year. If you think that's bad...I'm pretty sure I'm one of ten people in the whole the United States with an iPhone 5. I heard they moved less then 100 units world wide because you couldn't open links in the slower version of Safari that Google put out. This year Apple only had about $10k in revenue. Their stock price is on it's way down to the single digits. Meanwhile, Microsoft ended design as a whole with Windows 8 (anything from now on is a copy of Windows 8), and Google cured every cancer that's ever existed with Google Now.

Windows 8. Flat. Apple is doomed. Can't open links in Slowfari. Apple is doomed. No massive analog clock on the homescreen. Apple is doomed. No yellow and brown custom transformers theme. Apple is doomed.

Everything they've ever done since ever has been a bad decision and will ultimately doom Apple. It's game over. Apple even sucks at failing. They keep losing and never die.



Jealousy is an ugly color.

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To me going flat would negate some of what sets apple apart, I will have to see it in person first though.

I know it won't look exactly like windows 8, that's ridiculous, but I hate the flatness of windows 8 and apparently so does a lot of people.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/sto...-computers-shipments-tablets-smartphones.html

I really like Windows Phone in terms of aesthetics, and the way they grasped the concept of widgets and glanceable info is unique and excellent. I do, however, dislike Windows 8, more because of how it's designed in terms of interface logic (treating the desktop as an app and centering the OS on the Start Screen). Not that the Start Screen is anything that good, it feels like a waste of space.
 
It will be very much in keeping with Apple if they release a flat mobile OS, just like Windows and Android and everyone else these days, but then claim they have invented a new level of flatness that is superior to everyone else's flatness.

Apple will then patent flatness and sue everyone else for flat UI.

Honestly if Apple wants to be revolutionary bring back glass buttons and at least look different than all their competition.

Geeze, if this is Apple's idea of innovation, to duplicate other people's design trends now, its game over.

hahahaha

We must be buying different Apple products for you to make those assumptions.

Jony Ive is in charge of this. How many of his designs does he have in museums now? The difference in philosophy is stark. One company supports and encourages design producing icon after icon. Can you tell me who the product designers are at Samsung, Microsoft and Android. One company seems to have a motto of making the best stuff.



Expect, cool, elegant design.
 
I hope this is not a return to the bad old days at apple. Already seeing a proliferation of models and form factors.

Skeumorphism is actually a great intuitive way to communicate to users how software is to be used.

*Sigh* Who is actually left at Apple that knows the technology of software and chips?

You forgot the obligatory "Steve would never have allowed this". :D

Seriously, what is this proliferation of models and form factors you speak of?
 
I see no problem in that. For any design philosophy there are a set of rules.

Ok but.. User interface design doesn't really deal with how things look per se. My point is that the examples I made serve a purpose beyond "style" or fashion.
 
I really like Windows Phone in terms of aesthetics, and the way they grasped the concept of widgets and glanceable info is unique and excellent. I do, however, dislike Windows 8, more because of how it's designed in terms of interface logic (treating the desktop as an app and centering the OS on the Start Screen). Not that the Start Screen is anything that good, it feels like a waste of space.

To be honest I have not used a windows phone, but I do some computer work on the side (word of mouth) and do not charge the ridiculous prices normal for here in mexico and removing windows 8 to replace it with 7 is normal.
 
I completely agree. People that are having a cow over the skeuomorphism really need to realize that there are some people that actually appreciate not having a sterile device with a UI like a clothes washer.

So you've seen what iOS 7 looks like then?
 
I'm hoping it's mostly greyscale and very minimalist.

This would be my worst nightmare. The newish grayscale interface in OS X, like the Finder, Mail and iTunes 10 icons, and the gray interface in iTunes for iOS and to some degree the low contrast menu bars in iOS for contacts, calendar and contacts in iOS 6, is neither great to look at nor helps you find things faster. On the contrary, it does the opposite.

I sincerely hope that the new direction Apple took a while back, the "Focus on Content", is scaled back and replaced with something that looks more beautiful and makes things easier to find.
 
I doubt I will upgrade either way, I like the look of iOS already and I'm not a fusspot like modern phone owners. The look of icons etc does not make a difference
 
For those who have difficulty understanding flat design, or think it's just like Windows 8, here's an excellent example. This is non-flat, or as iOS is now.
Image

This, on the other hand, is flat. Same icon, no volume or reflections. Simplicity at its finest.
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I'm not sure which I prefer... I do believe though that iOS needs a visual makeover. Lets hope they make appealing aesthetic decisions.
 
For those who have difficulty understanding flat design, or think it's just like Windows 8, here's an excellent example. This is non-flat, or as iOS is now.
Image

This, on the other hand, is flat. Same icon, no volume or reflections. Simplicity at its finest.
Image

Say what you want, but I prefer my Chrome all shiny and high-techy and eye-like. That's how it looks in my dock, where it has pride of place next to Finder. By now, I've got used to reapplying the custom icon every time it updates itself. Several more of my regularly docked applications use custom icons to make them, for lack of a better word, shinier.

I am not a fan of flat design. Ever since I've upgraded to Mountain Lion, I've missed the blue jelly scrollbars. I also think that Windows 8 is ugly. I'll admit the start screen has some style, but the redesigned desktop windows look like they were made with MS Paint (which they probably were at some point). Yes, I accept this is the way design is going right now. Even on the internet, I see webpages designed by similar principles.

I suppose it was inevitable - We just accepted the reality of staring into a flat computer screen, and stopped pretending it was something more. But every receding tide leaves behind a few rock pools. And they will rejoin the sea when the tide comes back in. Flat design will probably go out of fashion when holographic screens with tactile feedback become commonplace.
 
Guess we have to wait and see, but it doesn't sound too good in my ears. Sounds like a less lively and more sterile OS.

I don't understand these U-turns they do on UI. Look at Windows 7 & 8. Total opposite of each other, with Windows 8 looking like it's coming from the 80's.
 
Wait. After numerous threads DEMANDING a UI change, people are upset about the RUMORS of a UI change. Hilarious.
 
I think something that will make the biggest difference is icon color schemes. If the icons are flat but have an obnoxiously loud color palette then it won't look good. If they're of a more matte/subdued version of colors then they'll look good. For example, the old google ios app icon was that shiny blue color but now it is a subdued blue (I know that can't be the right word to describe it but I can't think of anything else) and it looks good. The google plus app icon is also a nicer red color than day the flipboard app icon color. I hope the colors in the WWDC invite aren't used in the UI of iOS7 because I don't think they'd be as pleasant to look at.
 
If anyone is familiar with Microsoft Zune media player, that is a good example of something that is both flat and appealing. Honestly, the cute, glossy look of a lot of the apps actually hinder performance. I also hope that Apple incorporates dedicated touch buttons in the future, like Android, particularly a context menu. It's really difficult maneuvering in iOS because of the strict code for aesthetics. The problem I have with Android is that the interface is complete **** out of the box. A good, functional OS with an elegant UI: it's amazing how no one can wrap their mind around it.
 
I think something that will make the biggest difference is icon color schemes. If the icons are flat but have an obnoxiously loud color palette then it won't look good. If they're of a more matte/subdued version of colors then they'll look good. For example, the old google ios app icon was that shiny blue color but now it is a subdued blue (I know that can't be the right word to describe it but I can't think of anything else) and it looks good. The google plus app icon is also a nicer red color than day the flipboard app icon color. I hope the colors in the WWDC invite aren't used in the UI of iOS7 because I don't think they'd be as pleasant to look at.

The colors of the default passbook card by apple would be perfect for the new iOS 7 icons.
 
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