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Developer Demonstrates Wireless Syncing of iPhone and iPod Touch to iTunes

PB165c said:
It is easy to asume that this is a nobrainer feature that should have being done long ago, and I suspect that this have being excluded in iPhone OS due to copyrights and licensing of the IP involved.
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If that's the case, then that's really sad. All of these stupid patents, licensing, etc. is going to crush American innovation. It's OBVIOUS that devices will sync over WiFi (and whatever else comes down the pipe). If there are people holding patents that prevent others from including such OBVIOUS features, then our patent system is even more wretched than I imagined.
 
I know this has been said about Opera and proven wrong, but "I don't think they'll allow this". Matters of security, pride (being beaten to it), possible selling feature of the 4G iPhone etc.

Truly would be an awesome feature though, and I hope if it gets rejected then the developer puts it on Cydia with all the other missing features that we otherwise wouldn't get until the 6th generation or so 🙂
 
BruiserBear said:
I'm still trying to figure out why people are SO annoyed by having to plug a cable into the bottom of their iPhone to sync it.
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I don't care about having to use a cable. I think it would be cool if WiFi were an option, but it's not a deal-breaker by any means. What I can't stand is having to open every app I want to sync and go through as many different syncing interfaces. There should be a sync API and iTunes should handle syncing for every app.
 
This is 100% fake.

There are no documented APIs that lets you modify the SMS database or add/delete anything to your music library on the iPhone. What the hell is it syncing?
 
While I applaud the effort and hope it works as advertised I'd be lying if I said a whole bunch of big red warning lights weren't going off inside my head.

My issues aren't due to 'wifi' privacy issues but you SHOULD give that some though, however my misgivings deal with the process itself. Contrary to what some may think, Syncing by any means is an ENORMOUSLY difficult task.

Anyone who suffered thu the YEARS of iSync ... growing pains ... can agree with me when I say, it's a tough thing to get right. Along the way, be prepared for duplicating or triplicating (or more) your Address Book entires and/or your iCal items. Also be ready to deal with the possibility that one or more of your datasets (cal-data, address-data, etc) gets wiped out and the gets propagated to any/all other devices you are syncing with (via Apples iSync or 3rd party sync products).

In short: Have lots and lots of backups... in places where the files are NOT synced by anything.

It certainly seems like a no-brainer but there are A LOT of variables to account for, as well as A LOT of 'unexpected actions' all or any of which could FUBAR your life.

It took me a LONG time to finally trust iSync would behave and simply set it and forget it. Jumping into a new APP ... I'd wait for LOTS and LOTS and LOTS of 3rd party reviews (did I say LOTS) before I'd even consider looking at it.
 
Compile 'em all said:
This is 100% fake.

There are no documented APIs that lets you modify the SMS database or add/delete anything to your music library on the iPhone. What the hell is it syncing?
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That was my original thought but if the applet running on the system that the iPhone app talks to fools iTunes into thinking its connected by a cable, then it could conceivably work - the iPhone app itself does very little.
 
DaveGee said:
While I applaud the effort and hope it works as advertised I'd be lying if I said a whole bunch of big red warning lights weren't going off inside my head.

My issues aren't due to 'wifi' privacy issues but you SHOULD give that some though, however my misgivings deal with the process itself. Contrary to what some may think, Syncing by any means is an ENORMOUSLY difficult task.

Anyone who suffered thu the YEARS of iSync ... growing pains ... can agree with me when I say, it's a tough thing to get right. Along the way, be prepared for duplicating or triplicating (or more) your Address Book entires and/or your iCal items. Also be ready to deal with the possibility that one or more of your datasets (cal-data, address-data, etc) gets wiped out and the gets propagated to any/all other devices you are syncing with (via Apples iSync or 3rd party sync products).

In short: Have lots and lots of backups... in places where the files are NOT synced by anything.

It certainly seems like a no-brainer but there are A LOT of variables to account for, as well as A LOT of 'unexpected actions' all or any of which could FUBAR your life.

It took me a LONG time to finally trust iSync would behave and simply set it and forget it. Jumping into a new APP ... I'd wait for LOTS and LOTS and LOTS of 3rd party reviews (did I say LOTS) before I'd even consider looking at it.
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Lets be clear here; if this app is genuine, its somehow fooling iTunes into performing a normal sync process. There is absolutely no way that the iPhone app itself is performing any synching.
 
Stratus Fear said:
If you watch the video, the app looks like it gets put into the background by the native syncing process. I would imagine it simply acts as a conduit and technically doesn't do any file writing, leaving that to the actual sync module of iPhone OS, which means it wouldn't violate section 3.3.4 of the SDK agreement.

Edit: Actually, this is correct. It doesn't violate that section of the agreement. This guy is on reddit, posted his youtube video and had this to say: http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comme..._made_an_app_that_lets_you_wirelessly/c0ouuan
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You're right - thanks for clarifying this, I was misguided. He seems to create a virtual connection, and lets the device sync itself. This is really impressive, to be honest, and I'm stumped as to how he made a virtual device on the iTunes end.

To that effect, wouldn't Apple block him out the same way they did Palm with the Pre's iTunes syncing? Seems similar. Let's hope they don't!
 
I know people have wanted this a long time.but I can't for the life of me think of any situation in which I'd want it.
I come home
I plug in my phone
It charges and syncs
How would wifi syncing be useful at all?

Edit-Answered in other posts.
Not something I need though.
 
yeah, let's get firewire added to the iphone before this.

wifi transfer makes no sense speedwise unless you want to sync only a few songs.
 
jasonforisrael said:
wifi transfer makes no sense speedwise unless you want to sync only a few songs.
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I think you just inadvertently answered the question, why wifi syncing would be so nice.

It's not for syncing a bunch of songs or apps, it's for syncing that one app or song that you downloaded that day. But mainly, it's for syncing iCal. There have been many times when I've wanted to sync a few events but I'm too lazy to bother with taking the cable from my power adapter and sticking it into my iMac. When I'm on the run and realize that the calendar events on my iPod are out of date before I go out for the day, I should just have to press a button. That's it. That's what would make wifi syncing so handy.

Of course, Apple would much rather you use Mobile Me to sync iCal. Maybe that's the reason we still don't have wireless sync!
 
Why has this not been done before? It's not an original idea.
I thought that nobody had developed anything of the sort because it didn't comply with the rules of the sdk.
my biggest question:
why doesn't apple enable wi-fi syncing of the itunes library?
It would be very convenient.
 
Compile 'em all said:
This is 100% fake.

There are no documented APIs that lets you modify the SMS database or add/delete anything to your music library on the iPhone. What the hell is it syncing?
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Clearly haven't read the thread then. 🙄

The Developer said all it does is open up a connection between the Mac and the iPhone which then allows iTunes to detect the iPhone. *iTunes* then initiates the sync over this apps connection.

THE APP ITSELF DOES NOT DO ANY FILE READING OR WRITING IT IS SIMPLY OPENING UP A CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO DEVICES.

Sheesh, give over people.

Good luck to the dev, I'll be lining up to download it when its ready! (Early adopters sale price please? 😉)
 
Since the cat is out of the bag on the iPhone 4.0 in terms of hardware and look and feel, my guess is that Steve Jobs will be scratching around for as many software additions he can to try and wow the audience on new features like this instead.

Therefore, if its not approved then it is because it would be duplicating a native feature already slated for 4.0.😉
 
windows mobile had wireless syncing at one time but got pulled for some stupid security reasons. Was really useful too so hopefully one day it might come to the iphone although i won't hold my breath.
 
Concorde Rules said:
Clearly haven't read the thread then. 🙄

The Developer said all it does is open up a connection between the Mac and the iPhone which then allows iTunes to detect the iPhone. *iTunes* then initiates the sync over this apps connection.

THE APP ITSELF DOES NOT DO ANY FILE READING OR WRITING IT IS SIMPLY OPENING UP A CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO DEVICES.

Sheesh, give over people.

Good luck to the dev, I'll be lining up to download it when its ready! (Early adopters sale price please? 😉)
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I stand corrected.

This app will 120% be rejected (if it is real). Anything that "tricks" anything ain't gonna make it.
 
Why can't the Iphone authorize it's music by itself?

Why can't my iphone authorize the music that is on it, by itself, without having to sync to my mac?
I've hooked up to my one of my macs, just to power the iphone and after I do that some of the music on my iphone won't play.
The mac that has all of my music doesn't have net access.

With this app I'll still have to have my mac to authorize my music?

I think the Iphone should be able to do this all by itself!
This could be the end of itunes and iphones, or at least it might be the end of my using it!
I support dma but the phone and the mac should have some memory of what music you've paid for.
I'm having trouble playing music on the iphone that I bought more than 2 years ago!
 
Compile 'em all said:
I stand corrected.

This app will 120% be rejected (if it is real). Anything that "tricks" anything ain't gonna make it.
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Depends on the definition of 'trick'.

If you class telling iTunes that a iPhone is plugged in via USB but is actually plugged in via WiFi then on those grounds it might.

However if it does [get rejected] it's rather petty.
 
Becordial said:
But don't lots of people have their home computer on all the time with apps already running?

Either way, hope this gets approved. We need to there to be lots of discussion about this here and in other place so it's hard to reject it for any spurious reasons.
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I personally turn my computers off when leaving the house, and I'm sure a lot of people do too.
lowbatteries said:
No, it's not. Bluetooth 3 is nearly as fast as 802.11g.
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Except no Macs or iPhones or any Apple products have BT3. All current ones have 2.1, and the older ones may have 2.0 or 1.0.
 
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