I like the combination of the two. So have the basement server machine as an always on device (can do screen sharing to it etc), with the laptop as the take-away device when you need it.
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Developer Demonstrates Wireless Syncing of iPhone and iPod Touch to iTunes
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I like the combination of the two. So have the basement server machine as an always on device (can do screen sharing to it etc), with the laptop as the take-away device when you need it.
roland.g
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I have an iMac with iTunes always on and almost all our movies on an external drive. Our Apple TV can then pull up any movie we need. I have a MacBook as well but now with the iPad I can see myself selling the MacBook as it isn't really necessary anymore.
Laptops are great for portability, but desktops generally offer more storage, screen real estate and horsepower, so unless you are either a student or need it for professional reasons, the home desktop tends to make more sense.
jayducharme
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I agree. The author seems to be talking out of his hat. Sure, it's a slower way to transfer data. But so what? That doesn't violate anything. Why would Apple get upset because someone chooses a slower data transfer? As the author mentions, this option would be great if I wanted to sync something from another room in the house. Since the device has to be acknowledged by iTunes, I don't see any security problems.
I'm the developer of this app and wanted to address some of the issues raised in this thread.
My app contains no code that violates the iPhone developer agreement. The only location that it writes to is its own private cache directory. Sorry I can't go into further details, but I have to protect the work I've invested in this. I too would be sceptical, but I'll say again that no private APIs are used.
The technique used by my app has been possible since the first version of the SDK.
Sorry, the video was done in a bit of a hurry 🙂
Yes it does work on iPad.
My app contains no code that violates the iPhone developer agreement. The only location that it writes to is its own private cache directory. Sorry I can't go into further details, but I have to protect the work I've invested in this. I too would be sceptical, but I'll say again that no private APIs are used.
The technique used by my app has been possible since the first version of the SDK.
Sorry, the video was done in a bit of a hurry 🙂
Yes it does work on iPad.
I'm still trying to figure out why people are SO annoyed by having to plug a cable into the bottom of their iPhone to sync it.
Sorry man, I'm not buying it... if you're only writing to your own cache, then you're not installing apps, not syncing music, not syncing calendars etc.
Unless your just syncing them to your own app.
Can you tell us how you choose what you want it to sync? Does it rely upon what was last ticked in iTunes or can you change the settings via the phone?
My app doesn't do the actual 'sync' - it creates a connection between the computer and the phone. From there, iTunes can initiate a sync and the phone handles this directly. From that point onward, my app has nothing to do with it. Therefore it does not need to install apps or sync music.
It's all done in iTunes as normal.
Well, then more power to ya! I hope it works and I hope it gets approved. The only way I can imagine you do it is to fake the device connection between wifi and the input port and if that's so, I'd be shocked if they approved it.
Good luck to you!
Wait! So you still have to sit in front of iTunes to initiate the sync?
I was hoping you would just initiate and manage it from the phone. Say you come home late, hit SYNC in your app as you put the phone down somewhere at home, and by the morning it's all synced up without having to touch the computer.
I was hoping you would just initiate and manage it from the phone. Say you come home late, hit SYNC in your app as you put the phone down somewhere at home, and by the morning it's all synced up without having to touch the computer.
sanPietro98
macrumors 6502a
Kudos. I'll buy this as soon as it's approved. I just hope it is indeed approved.
I guarantee this will be rejected by Apple.
Jobs: WHAT!? They're trying to do something useful that people have been asking for FOR YEARS?! And they're going to make money off it!?
NO! Screw fair-play and competition! We'll block them from the store until we ... well... feel like getting off our duffs and implementing a gimped version ourselves and charge for its use via the monthly MobileMe subscription!
Fanboi's reaction: "OMG! A purposefully gimped version with an official shiny fruit logo!?" *jobs-crotch-dive* "mmmffff"
Jobs: WHAT!? They're trying to do something useful that people have been asking for FOR YEARS?! And they're going to make money off it!?
NO! Screw fair-play and competition! We'll block them from the store until we ... well... feel like getting off our duffs and implementing a gimped version ourselves and charge for its use via the monthly MobileMe subscription!
Fanboi's reaction: "OMG! A purposefully gimped version with an official shiny fruit logo!?" *jobs-crotch-dive* "mmmffff"
My insanely uneducated and wild guess would be that the app routes USB data via the network, so - once a "bridge" is created - neither iTunes or the iPhone can tell they're not physically connected. Second "wild" guess would be that the app does stuff really low level (Unix stylee) and doesn't even use Apple's APIs to do the USB shiz.
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P.S. I've wanted wireless media syncing for _so_ long. So long.
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P.S. I've wanted wireless media syncing for _so_ long. So long.
Amen!
Finally! I love this, I just hope the new iPhone has a better battery life... My current iPhone would probably run out of juice before it was done syncing, given how long time capsule takes to sync...... jk
Finally! I love this, I just hope the new iPhone has a better battery life... My current iPhone would probably run out of juice before it was done syncing, given how long time capsule takes to sync...... jk
too bad you have to be at your computer
he had to click "yes" on his computer to allow the sync, so you'll have be at your computer anyway. Unless there's a way to make it automatic or just sync from the phone, it just saves plugging it into the USB. Not a big deal for me since it's sitting right there anyway. If they get this to work so you don't actually have to do anything on your computer (ie: you could do it from the couch), that would be nice.
he had to click "yes" on his computer to allow the sync, so you'll have be at your computer anyway. Unless there's a way to make it automatic or just sync from the phone, it just saves plugging it into the USB. Not a big deal for me since it's sitting right there anyway. If they get this to work so you don't actually have to do anything on your computer (ie: you could do it from the couch), that would be nice.
wifi sync of iphone seems so logical to end users but I think apple doesn't see it that way.
When I first got my iphone, I synced to activate it and than I assumed everything was going to synch with my iphone and macbook. Than I realized wait contacts/calendar is not synching. When I realized I had to connect iphone with USB cable to synch, it was a mild shock to me.
But I think I can see apple's reasoning for not coming up with wifi synch.
1. battery. when you synch with usb, it's faster than wifi and it charges at same time. iphone battery discharges fast already so using wifi will only speed up draining the battery. Can you imagine copying a few gigs of video over wifi? Image how long it will take and how much battery will be used up in the process.
2. mobileme. I actually agonized over this. Did I really want to spend $100 a year AFTER spending $$ for iphone/case/apps/warranty? The cost is quickly adding up to match cost for decent laptop. Once I gave in and got it, I can see it's useful. I can keep OmniFocus synchronized easily over iphone/macs. I can save files there and edit directly using word/excel, unlike docs.google.com. But you notice that you can't synch mp3/movies over mobileme. They don't do video synch via mobileme due to wan speed and licensing issue. But one less obvious but practical reason is file copy speed. It may work but it will tax the network and hence give impression to end user that it's not intuitive, perfect, smooth. Not an image apple wants to give.
BUT, I think apple should still include wifi synch of contact, calendar, and other stuff that's not heavy. Apple should realize not everyone is going to sign up with mobileme and than people HATE having to plug in/out cables. We are already drowning in cables.
When I first got my iphone, I synced to activate it and than I assumed everything was going to synch with my iphone and macbook. Than I realized wait contacts/calendar is not synching. When I realized I had to connect iphone with USB cable to synch, it was a mild shock to me.
But I think I can see apple's reasoning for not coming up with wifi synch.
1. battery. when you synch with usb, it's faster than wifi and it charges at same time. iphone battery discharges fast already so using wifi will only speed up draining the battery. Can you imagine copying a few gigs of video over wifi? Image how long it will take and how much battery will be used up in the process.
2. mobileme. I actually agonized over this. Did I really want to spend $100 a year AFTER spending $$ for iphone/case/apps/warranty? The cost is quickly adding up to match cost for decent laptop. Once I gave in and got it, I can see it's useful. I can keep OmniFocus synchronized easily over iphone/macs. I can save files there and edit directly using word/excel, unlike docs.google.com. But you notice that you can't synch mp3/movies over mobileme. They don't do video synch via mobileme due to wan speed and licensing issue. But one less obvious but practical reason is file copy speed. It may work but it will tax the network and hence give impression to end user that it's not intuitive, perfect, smooth. Not an image apple wants to give.
BUT, I think apple should still include wifi synch of contact, calendar, and other stuff that's not heavy. Apple should realize not everyone is going to sign up with mobileme and than people HATE having to plug in/out cables. We are already drowning in cables.