Is one included?
It sure looks like it is not included which is a big enough disappointment to me that I won't be upgrading.
I use my watch for trail running (with lots of hills), and I bring along my phone mainly for the barometer. If I run without my phone, the calories I get credit for is about 20% less than if I bring my phone (even though the distance I get credit for is pretty much spot on).
I know that the numbers shouldn't really matter, but tracking the numbers gets me out running much more often than I would otherwise so I like to have accurate numbers.
Since I will still need to bring my phone along on my runs even with the new watch, I don't really see the point of upgrading (I am not a swimmer, and with my phone along, I'll have GPS anyway).
Barometric altimeters are common in all of the activity trackers that count the number of flights of stairs you climb.They didn't mention it, and it could be included, but I'm going to guess not. It's something primarily useful to more serious athletes and the Apple Watch is really aimed at the mass market.
Barometric altimeters are common in all of the activity trackers that count the number of flights of stairs you climb.
Yeah. The gist of my comment is that a barometric altimeter is table stakes for mid-grade trackers. It comes back to the AW as an activity tracker is missing a core feature that just about every tracker starting at $100 includes.I know some activity trackers use it, but I am not aware of any running specific apps that are using the altimeter. I'm sure that could have changed since last I looked seriously, just curious.
What running app do you use that actually makes use of the phone's barometer?
Yeah. The gist of my comment is that a barometric altimeter is table stakes for mid-grade trackers. It comes back to the AW as an activity tracker is missing a core feature that just about every tracker starting at $100 includes.
Interestingly, Garmin dropped the altimeter from their latest 735XT fitness watch. It was kind of an odd decision, and I debated a while before deciding to buy one. But ironically, altimeters are less useful for fitness, because all (as far as I know) analysis tools that receive the data do altitude correction anyway. I would not give up altimeter on a bike computer, because knowing road grade during the ride is pretty useful.
In fact many of the GPS methods, Strava's included, don't count any elevation change less than something like 30'. So they miss entirely all those small undulations on the trail, and if you do a workout of repeats on a small hill like that, it will record your elevation gain as zero.
What running app do you use that actually makes use of the phone's barometer?
Apple's workout app uses it. Apple doesn't advertise that it does, and it doesn't show you the elevation climbed in the app, but it does take it into account when calculating the calories burned.
When I'm running on a trail, I burn as little as 30 calories / km when running downhill, and about 120 calories / km when running up a big hill.
If I don't take my phone with me, I burn exactly 59 calories / km regardless of the terrain that I run on.
There is no barometer in either the AW
There is. You can have elevation data even when you paired original Watch with iPhone 5 which has no barometer. Why are there many wrong informations in this thread?
No there isn't. I know this because I run up and down stairs with my Apple Watch without my phone (use a small iPod nano attached to arm). The Health app will not have any flights of stairs recorded from the workout. Just a few days ago I did 40 flights of stairs and Health app only shows 7 from when I had my phone going up and down stairs at work.
iMore said:What kinds of sensors does the Watch have?
Every Apple Watch, regardless of collection, comes equipped with a variety of sensors, including:
a heart rate sensor (for measuring your heart rate during activities)
accelerometer & gyroscope (for measuring steps, standing and sitting, and stairs climbed)
ambient light sensor (for saving the battery and keeping your screen dim when appropriate)
iMore said:your heartbeat, step counts, stairs climbed, and stand-sit ratio is all stored locally while you're away from your iPhone, and will be uploaded to the Health app as soon as you're within pairing distance again.
That's not the barometer increasing your calories. It's your increased heart rate when running uphill that is increasing it. There is no barometer in either the AW or AW S2. If the AW S2 had a barometer, Apple would have been sure to mention it as it is a strong advertising tool for people who exercise.
Maybe the Watch can do that to then! That'd be goodAlso, the iPhone 5 calculates elevation based on GPS. That's nothing secret.