That iMore article is wrong. Accelerometer and gyroscope sensors can't measure stairs climbed. You need a barometer sensor for that. If only accelerometer and gyroscope sensors are needed, then iPhone 5 should have been able to calculate stairs climbed.
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Did I miss mention of barometer in series 2?
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That iMore article is wrong. Accelerometer and gyroscope sensors can't measure stairs climbed. You need a barometer sensor for that. If only accelerometer and gyroscope sensors are needed, then iPhone 5 should have been able to calculate stairs climbed.
I have stair counting even though I didn't bring my iPhone with me. That article is right.
if your out in the hills and valleys all alone and above the age of 30 or below 18 you should have a phone with you for safety reasons anyways. what if you have a stroke out there all alone and need to call for help? I don't think SOS works if you don't have your phone with you. Just saying.. But yeah they should have added more sensors with the aw2 not sure why Apple isn't doing their normal design change and additional new big thing every other year like they used to on products....
So you are saying you are seeing the number Flights climbed using the
Watch in the Health app? That is not possible since you MUST have a barometer (iPhone) to measure elevation changes.
So you are saying you are seeing the number Flights climbed using the
Yes, I have flight climbed when I went to gym. It's on the third floor of my building. I didn't take iPhone with me.
I got his info from:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...2-and-apple-watch-nike-with-pokemon-go--full/
Processor
S2 chip with dual core processor which works up to 50 percent faster with a low power usage. This means apps and interface will respond more quickly with better audio and video playback ability.
This has been added to the existing Apple Watch Series 1 for an updated model.
Geolocation
Barometer which will help hikers and runners with more accurate measurements. A useful feature for climbers and those involved in sports.
There is also built-in GPS for measuring accurate pace and distance .
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...2-and-apple-watch-nike-with-pokemon-go--full/
Processor
S2 chip with dual core processor which works up to 50 percent faster with a low power usage. This means apps and interface will respond more quickly with better audio and video playback ability.
This has been added to the existing Apple Watch Series 1 for an updated model.
Geolocation
Barometer which will help hikers and runners with more accurate measurements. A useful feature for climbers and those involved in sports.
There is also built-in GPS for measuring accurate pace and distance .
Must be just an anomaly or atmospheric pressure change where you iPhone was located since the
Watch can't and doesn't measure elevation changes. However prove me wrong. Click on Data Sources & Access and post a pic of it showing your Watch as a source of Flights Climbed info.
Must be just an anomaly or atmospheric pressure change where you iPhone was located since the
I'll get to the gym again next week. Will check it out for you then. It'll be easy because I did it first thing in the morning and I won't bring iPhone with me.
Is it listed as a source of data? If the
Watch is not listed as a source of data then we KNOW the answer. You can check that right now.Is it listed as a source of data? If the
all 3 of my apple watches past and present are listed as sources of data...
they all show no data, but if you want him to prove himself wrong you need to ask the right questions.
Under Flights Climbed (see pic above)? Please post a pic.
EDIT: Here is all the metrics that are available from the
Watch and Flights Climbed is NOT one of them.
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Is it listed as a source of data? If the
That's the way I saw the data and the way I prefer to test it.
I believe that there may be a conflict in a water proof watch & the need to have access to air.
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Casio gets it done.I believe that there may be a conflict in a water proof watch & the need to have access to air.
It does have to have external access but it is an armature type design that is water safe. A lot like the mic or speaker. They are used in many ATM water rated watches (and even in the iPhone 7 with IP67 water rating). Apple just chose to include it. It is probably the biggest show stopper for me. GPS and a barometer would have been a enough of a persuader but without elevation data it just not worth the upgrade to me.
Under Flights Climbed (see pic above)? Please post a pic.
EDIT: Here is all the metrics that are available from the
Still in iOS 9 here, so I don't have that screen but...
Apologies, it looks like Apple must have just nulled it in iOS 9 (been on 10 since WWDC and my memory is on 1
) and has since removed it from iOS 10 since it is not applicable. However I'm sure if you hit the arrow on your current Watch there is NO Flights data recorded since it can't be (which you alluded to). Also I bet if you look at the source data available from the Watch Flights Climbed is NOT listed as an available metric either.No because a barometer can't do what you want either. The only thing that happens with sensors is that they measure something. The interpretation of that is done in software. A barometer only measures pressure, it won't be able to tell you the altitude (you need to convert pressure to distance), flights of stairs (what is a flight of stairs exactly?), etc. The accelerometer measures speed differences and the gyroscope can measure direction.
The only thing you need for altitude (and thus flights of stairs) is something that can tell you how quick in a specific time you are going in an upwards or downwards direction or difference in air pressure. The first can be done with accelerometer plus gyroscope, the second by a barometer. Ideally you'd want all three because it makes it more accurate and you can measure more things than just flight of stairs but a barometer isn't a necessity.
In the end these sensors do nothing but report their measurements. The software will interpret those various measurements and say if you went up a flight of stairs or not. As you can see in the posted screenshots there is a definition of what exactly is required in order for the software to see that you went up/down a flight of stairs.
To give you an idea what we are talking about: imagine using a barometer and then going from one room to a clean room or a server room. These have a much higher air pressure to keep things (dust mostly but also fire) out. If you'd use a barometer only going entering or exiting such a room means a difference in air pressure and thus it will be registered as a step up/down. If you add the other two sensors you are adding data that tells you if you are moving and in what direction you are moving. In this example they'd show that you are indeed moving but not going upwards/downwards and thus there won't be a registration.
Apple decided that only devices with the additional M-chip can measure steps, flights climbed, etc. Since the M-chip does more one must conclude that there are other reasons why phones without this chip but with accelerometer and gyroscope can't measure things like steps, flights climbed, etc. And that might very well be also the reason why an Apple Watch can't measure flights climbed either. If so then a barometer isn't going to change it.
Apologies, it looks like Apple must have just nulled it in iOS 9 (been on 10 since WWDC and my memory is on 1
there is no way to do the latter on ios 9.
I'm still wondering what good it does to have elevation data.
Maybe when I'm on my climb up Everest and need something to tell me when I should start using the oxygen tank.
Maybe when I'm on my climb up Everest and need something to tell me when I should start using the oxygen tank.
As explained it is for those walking/running/cycling in areas where height differs. Using a device that can measure the elevation means that it can take that into account into how much calories you are burning. Or at least better explain why your heart rate was that high. Apart from that there are also other uses than just fitness.
So, with such data, you can plan out your best heart rate zone, how much to eat beforehand (and which foods to eat), and set up a strategy for the next race?
Or is it just for showing to other people?
Or (and I think this is more likely), you're deciding to use it just because somebody made a gadget to track it? The old engineering maxim, "We can, so we should."?
Or is it just for showing to other people?
Or (and I think this is more likely), you're deciding to use it just because somebody made a gadget to track it? The old engineering maxim, "We can, so we should."?
That's pretty obtuse. It's pretty evident why a fitness tracker should have a barometer. Especially an expensive one.