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Yesterday I leaned towards the pro but today it’s the max. What I’m doing on a particular day definitely influences. Such a 1st world struggle 😬. Using a phone grip helps but it’s still a 2 handed phone most of the time. I don’t think anything can change how it is in a pocket though. I can’t believe people use cases on this thing, it’d be an absolute brick.
I keep flip-flopping back-and-forth myself. Today at my son‘s football game wearing athletic shorts I said to myself gee I really wish I had a Pro instead of a Max. And then there’s other times I say to myself man I love the screen on my Max.
 
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I keep flip-flopping back-and-forth myself. Today at my son‘s football game wearing athletic shorts I said to myself gee I really wish I had a Pro instead of a Max. And then there’s other times I saved myself man I love the screen on my Max.
Yep, it feels like a brick when wearing shorts.
 
I keep flip-flopping back-and-forth myself. Today at my son‘s football game wearing athletic shorts I said to myself gee I really wish I had a Pro instead of a Max. And then there’s other times I saved myself man I love the screen on my Max.

The 16 pro felt like a mini brick in my pocket a bit too tbh

Not as relieved as I was hoping to feel from downsizing. The 13 mini spoiled the crap out of me
 
May not be a popular move, but I’ve upgraded from my 15PM. In my opinion the 16PM is what the last years flagship should’ve been. Bigger screen, better battery, the refined version of a 3nm SOC and the same specs across the PM’s of both sides.

For me the .2 screen size increase gets downplayed but always wanted an iPhone with the screen size =\> than the S23U.

Alia an important detail time which many people won’t care about is the sound quality of the external stereo speakers of this 16PM. It’s really incredible the speakers they managed to imbed into this frame. Apple engineers started doing that with the M series of the MacBook Pro’s and the trend is thankfully continued.
 
Alia an important detail time which many people won’t care about is the sound quality of the external stereo speakers of this 16PM. It’s really incredible the speakers they managed to imbed into this frame. Apple engineers started doing that with the M series of the MacBook Pro’s and the trend is thankfully continued.
Same for the 16 Pro. Not unique feature for the 16 PM.
 
I've gone from 15PM (now in the possesion of my wife and I'm unlikely to get it back!) to a 16 Pro.
6.3" is a nice screen size and obviously a much more pocketable device. I do wonder if 6.5" is the sweet spot but that's for another day perhaps.
My concern, as with others, is the battery. I was averaging 2.5 cycles per week approx with the 15PM, the best anecdotal way I've got of measuring the difference with the 16 Pro is how the cycles pan out as my general usage is unlikely to change.
I've got a M4 iPad Pro and MBA when I need a bigger screen so that aspect doesn't really bother me much.
The battery health of the 15PM is phenomenal. My launch day 15PM has 346 cycles now and the battery health is still at 97%. (I use limit to 80% on a work day and only charge it to 100% on weekends or holidays. No wireless charging). So I’m not sure I may want to switch to the Pro size. I watched some battery tests on YouTube and the 16P has approximately 30 minutes less battery life than the 15PM. Which in theory should be acceptable. But it seems to be worse according to this thread.
 
The 16 pro felt like a mini brick in my pocket a bit too tbh

Not as relieved as I was hoping to feel from downsizing. The 13 mini spoiled the crap out of me
Yeah that’ll be a jump for sure but has been the norm for a while now. The 16pro is certainly a heavy and dense phone for its size.

Same for the 16 Pro. Not unique feature for the 16 PM.
Both sound great but the PM edges the Pro imo.
 
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The battery health of the 15PM is phenomenal. My launch day 15PM has 346 cycles now and the battery health is still at 97%. (I use limit to 80% on a work day and only charge it to 100% on weekends or holidays. No wireless charging). So I’m not sure I may want to switch to the Pro size. I watched some battery tests on YouTube and the 16P has approximately 30 minutes less battery life than the 15PM. Which in theory should be acceptable. But it seems to be worse according to this thread.

I think it’s tough to compare directly without putting both devices through the exact same usage. IMO, for most people the first week or so with a new device can be thrown out of the window as far as battery life goes.
 
I think it’s tough to compare directly without putting both devices through the exact same usage. IMO, for most people the first week or so with a new device can be thrown out of the window as far as battery life goes.
The indexing of iOS 18 takes longer than usual, for me it’s about 3-4 days, due to the updated awful Photos app.
 
The indexing of iOS 18 takes longer than usual, for me it’s about 3-4 days, due to the updated awful Photos app.
That makes sense. That’s around the time both of my devices seem to take a noticeable jump in battery life. I was also using them a lot more the first couple of days.
 
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i’ve thought about moving down to the 6.3in Pro this year (had a 15PM, 13PM, XS Max) but finally ended up with the 16 Pro Max.

Everyone saying online that the increase in size is almost negligible. I disagree. there’s definitely a size increase that my 15PM feels ~compact~ after using my 16PM for 4 days

thought to myself maybe i should have gone with the regular Pro this year? Well i went into an Apple Store today and my the 6.3in Pro is tiny in comparison. Definitely wouldn’t want to downgrade to it and lose the battery life and display of the Max

I’m sure that if i got the 6.3in Pro, I would have gotten used to it within a few weeks and found my old 15PM comically huge but i think i’ll stay on the Max train indefinitely

Although that rumored iPhone Slim with a 6.6in display may actually be my perfect size of display for me. Guess we’ll see then
 
From the day I got my 13PM three years ago I wanted a smaller phone. But like everyone else was hooked on the battery life. Even three years on I was only charging every 2-3 days. I had been holding off for a Pro sized phone that could compete on battery life.

So far, I get 2 days out of the Pro. That is an ok compromise for the more manageable size.

I also setup a shortcut to turn off bluetooth when I am sleeping which takes the edge of the ridiculous Find My battery drain. I don't remember that happening with my PM and hope Apple fixes it soon.
 
i’ve thought about moving down to the 6.3in Pro this year (had a 15PM, 13PM, XS Max) but finally ended up with the 16 Pro Max.

Everyone saying online that the increase in size is almost negligible. I disagree. there’s definitely a size increase that my 15PM feels ~compact~ after using my 16PM for 4 days

thought to myself maybe i should have gone with the regular Pro this year? Well i went into an Apple Store today and my the 6.3in Pro is tiny in comparison. Definitely wouldn’t want to downgrade to it and lose the battery life and display of the Max

I’m sure that if i got the 6.3in Pro, I would have gotten used to it within a few weeks and found my old 15PM comically huge but i think i’ll stay on the Max train indefinitely

Although that rumored iPhone Slim with a 6.6in display may actually be my perfect size of display for me. Guess we’ll see then

Definitely would be tough to size down after so many max sized phones. Going from 6.7” to 6.3” would be more doable but the 6.9” is big enough to be a significant difference. Battery life isn’t a factor for me having used both so it’s pretty much just the screen. I’m really trying to see if I’m just going through a honeymoon phase with a huge screen or not. Side by side the screen real estate isn’t a significant difference.

The Samsung s24 plus is just right imo. It’s ~2mm narrower than the 16 Plus, which I think is really close to having the right hand feel because it’s thinner than the Pro line.
 
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I went 15 PM -> 15P -> 16P.


I admit it woud be easier to forgo the size downsides of the PM if the iOS would be bettery suited for larger screens. Now it's basically just an inflated version. On a 6.9'' screen it would be easier to get one more line of icons and maybe even an additional column. Even on 16P it's easy to see this compared to 15P, where everything is just "a bit bigger".
 
From the day I got my 13PM three years ago I wanted a smaller phone. But like everyone else was hooked on the battery life. Even three years on I was only charging every 2-3 days. I had been holding off for a Pro sized phone that could compete on battery life.

So far, I get 2 days out of the Pro. That is an ok compromise for the more manageable size.

I also setup a shortcut to turn off bluetooth when I am sleeping which takes the edge of the ridiculous Find My battery drain. I don't remember that happening with my PM and hope Apple fixes it soon.
Haven’t noticed that issue with find my, can you describe it? Also wouldn’t it just be easier to charge it overnight?
 
I went 15 PM -> 15P -> 16P.


I admit it woud be easier to forgo the size downsides of the PM if the iOS would be bettery suited for larger screens. Now it's basically just an inflated version. On a 6.9'' screen it would be easier to get one more line of icons and maybe even an additional column. Even on 16P it's easy to see this compared to 15P, where everything is just "a bit bigger".

Yeah I think you nailed it. There is a meaningful difference for media consumption with the 6.9” but it’s not as significant when it comes to productivity. Reading this forum thread for example, gains 2-3 lines on the max.
 
What screen issue? I never had this on my 16 pro. I could not even replicate it when my 16 pro was on 18.0.🧐
There were many that had “huge” issues, see several threads in the forum, like with palm touching algorithms and screen insensitivity when typing etc. I only noticed the palm thing which is gone now it seems. I attach the update notes from Apple
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Edit: typos
 
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Fixed for me!



Yesterday I leaned towards the pro but today it’s the max. What I’m doing on a particular day definitely influences. Such a 1st world struggle 😬. Using a phone grip helps but it’s still a 2 handed phone most of the time. I don’t think anything can change how it is in a pocket though. I can’t believe people use cases on this thing, it’d be an absolute brick.
Agree with. Very hard to use a case on the Pro Max phones if used to the normal Pro’s.
 
If you want to use a case on a Max a decent option is the Torras slim fit. That’s what I used for my previous Max. It’s more protection than something like a Peel but less bulky than a case like Apple’s. Only downsides (for some) this generation is that the button covers aren’t quite as good and the camera control has a cutout (which makes swiping more challenging).
 
Same for the 16 Pro. Not unique feature for the 16 PM.
There is a distinct difference between 16P and 16PM for external audio. The very close proximity of the speakers on the 16P makes them sound monaural. The 16PM distinctly plays back from two “locations”, leading to richer, fuller audio. BUT, in an interesting twist, for calls or any voice tasks, the 16P performs better. Why? Because monaural audio is better suited for voice. So, phone calls on the 16PM are actually less clear when playing back through the speakers than they are on the 16P.
 
Just got my replacement 16 Pro from EE, now to decide if I try it out to see if I still get overheating issues and battery drain or not. I still think that the 16PM offers a lot more phone for the money...

What to keep, what to sell- decisions, decisions! Both are 512GB in black.
 
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There is a distinct difference between 16P and 16PM for external audio. The very close proximity of the speakers on the 16P makes them sound monaural. The 16PM distinctly plays back from two “locations”, leading to richer, fuller audio. BUT, in an interesting twist, for calls or any voice tasks, the 16P performs better. Why? Because monaural audio is better suited for voice. So, phone calls on the 16PM are actually less clear when playing back through the speakers than they are on the 16P.
Very interesting, but in a way it kind of makes sense. The 16 PM is more for “entertainment” you might say, and 16 Pro for more straight forward “business”, I know I’m bending it bit here.
 
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