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I've been waiting using an old 2012 iMac to replace my old MBP that is broken. I was about to give up and just buy the MID 2019 15" MBP because I've started to lose faith in Apple's ability to keep up to expectations and promised like the 16" model and the always coming but never arriving Mac Pro and iMac Pro. I'll give it another 2 weeks.

Apple promised you a 16”?
 
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Guaranteed it starts at an absurd price that is not worth it. We Mac lovers now have to pay a premium to get a nice keyboard again.

I think the base price is going to be reasonable for a MacBook Pro. It will start at a similar price as current 15" models. Compared to a budget Windows laptop, yes, it's going to be very expensive, as usual. But not the same class of workmanship, either. The upper limit may be absurd, but if you have to edit 6K video on an airplane, you'll have to pay for it. Most people don't have to have 32GB RAM, 4TB SSD, 16-core CPU, dual GPU, and so on.
 
I want Face ID in this machine more than most people, and it makes so much sense that I don't know how it still isn't in a single Mac.

But the iMac Pro doesn't have it. And the XDR display won't even have it.

Apple seems hell bent on keeping that out of the Mac, and instead continuing to force the god-awful Touch ID implementation on us.
I absolutely agree that Face ID is a natural for the Mac. If this isn’t implemented into the new laptop, I will be shocked.

We’ll see...
 
Why would a slightly larger display mean it’s not meant for most consumers? Apple used to make 17” MacBooks. It should be priced very similar to the current 15” models. But I guess with so many here anticipating an outrageous price hike, why wouldn’t Apple rake it in.
It's not (mainly) about the display size, it's about the specs. 95%+ of consumers can't take advantage of/ don't need the 8 core 15 inch Macbook Pro either. That one costs $2.8k and "only" has 16 gb of ram and 512 gb ssd. If the new 16 inch has 32/64 gb ram, i9/ xeon processor, OLED screen and a 1 TB ssd then it will most likely cost significantly more than $2.8k. Most consumers really don't need 32 gb+ ram and a xeon processor. That's what I meant. But let's wait and see what the specs will be.
 
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Most consumers really don't need 32 gb+ ram and a xeon processor. That's what I meant. But let's wait and see what the specs will be.

I completely agree. If this model turns out to be a super high-end config, OLED, Xeon, 64GB RAM, 4TB RAID, dual screen, then it will be outrageously expensive. But I seriously doubt it. I can guarantee that as long as most people don't need that, a lower-end model will be offered at a reasonable price. It will never be as affordable as a sub-1080p plastic machine that flexes.

I'm hoping for better thermals thanks to the slightly bigger frame and a complete redesign. Intel is kind of limiting the possibilities. Maybe they can switch to AMD on this one. Ultimately everything will gradually migrate to ARM, unless Intel manages to significantly optimize the thermals. But I think it has inherent redundancies, like the 32-bit legacy support. Only Windows machines need legacy 8-bit and 16-bit registers and instructions. With ARM, Apple has a way of taking out what they don't want. Intel is a complete black box that they can't improve.
 
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Can these please be released this week? Or at least pre-order this week? And have a Navi 6 or 8gb GPU.
 
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I absolutely agree that Face ID is a natural for the Mac. If this isn’t implemented into the new laptop, I will be shocked.

We’ll see...

I just don't understand some people on this forum. It has been rumored time and time again that this is going to be basically the same 15.6-inch enclosure, just with a slighter bigger, less-bezel display and a better keyboard. In order to include FaceID, you will have redesign the entire enclosure and, since this laptop seems to already be in production, that is not happening.

You don't need to redesign the enclosure to include a different style of key switches and slightly different display IMHO.

They are basically using the 15.6-inch enclosure, no FaceID is coming, don't get your hopes up, folks!
 
The biggest releases for me, in terms of excitement, were the 2008 unibody machines—there were some leaks and speculation over the port (which turned out to be mDP) that were interesting. After that it was the 2016 machines. I was (and am) very much in the pro-Thunderbolt 3 crowd.

I'm surprised we've seen no chassis leaks or anything this time. We've had them before. The rumor mill has been consistent and has been pointing at October for a while but... there isn't a ton of October left!

My main concern about this machine is going to be the price. I want to upgrade. I want a bigger laptop. I want a keyboard that doesn't suck. I want a machine that's easier to use without being plugged into an external monitor and keyboard. I figure there will be a premium but... I can only stomach so much of one, haha.
 
I love my 2018 MBP, but damn do I want a better keyboard...

Either way I really hope there is word on whether or not there will be an October event soon. I want to know whether to not I should buy an iPad Pro...
 
Digitimes lol. Nobody has a clue. They just keep throwing around the word scissor but I highly doubt Apple will completely revert back to a previous keyboard. It will be some next gen thing that Phil Schiller can say has never been done before in a laptop.

I dunno about that. With the Mac Pro they spun it okay I guess... but they didn't avoid saying, "Eh, we misjudged where the market was going." I think they're at least kinda/sorta going for a mea culpa in the pro market.
 
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We already have a 15.6 inch MBP so what’s the utility of the 16 inch? Will they double the price and call it the MBP Pro?

The MacBook Pro is actually 15.4 inches, not 15.6. A 16-inch display would be some 8% larger, which is not a lot.

We are all assuming this MacBook Pro will be much more expensive than the current offerings.

In the Apple of yore, we would all assume that a 16-inch MacBook Pro would replace the current 15.4-inch at the same price point.

But, given Apple's current practices of market segmentation, I do not blame everyone for thinking that the new 16-inch MacBook Pro will be obscenely expensive.

I would tend to think it will start at $2,999 or even more than that.
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I love my 2018 MBP, but damn do I want a better keyboard...

Either way I really hope there is word on whether or not there will be an October event soon. I want to know whether to not I should buy an iPad Pro...

Well, I suppose Apple is a little bit late for an October event. We are already on October 21, there are some ten days left for Apple announcing and holding an event this month.
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Much like the new Mac Pro this laptop (most likely) isn't meant for normal consumers. For 90%+ of Mac users it's probably not worth it, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth it for some professionals who need the extra performance/ screen real estate. Paying $4k for something that has a significant impact on your productivity / the quality of your work (= more money earned) can make a lot of sense for some professionals. It's similar to how some professional musicians/ photographers spend tens of thousands of dollars on equipment.

You should not assume this.

Many consumers may benefit from a 16-inch screen with a high resolution. Perhaps many of them do not need features such as the Touch Bar, or P3 color, or a 8-core processor, or four Thunderbolt ports. These sound more luxury items than a 16-inch screen.
 
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I would think the market for people that want the largest screen portable Mac possible to do basic productivity, typing, surfing etc. (i.e. respectable performance, all day battery, etc. for around $1500-2000) would VASTLY exceed the market for a $3-4k laptop for video editing, encoding, etc. Give me an ice-lake i5 with iris pro graphics. Offer a i-7/9 with a 16GB discrete quadro card for the 100 people that NEED that and a decent, big MacBook for the rest of us.
 
I am thinking that Apple will be going to i7 comet lake 10 gen processor with a AMD Nav 10 chip. This combo DDR 4, WIFI 6, great graphics in a Nav chip would make a killer combo ready for Christmas sales.
 
Sure is getting late for an October event (as others mentioned). If they don’t announce it in the next three days there won’t be a show and tell this year.
Yeah, it’s looking less and less likely by the day. Invitations for prior years events typically came 8 to 12 days in advance. I don’t think they’d hold an event on Halloween so it would either be Tuesday or Wednesday of next week (7 and 8 days away from tomorrow)

 
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We already have a 15.6 inch MBP so what’s the utility of the 16 inch? Will they double the price and call it the MBP Pro?

Only two reasons they would do it:

1) Bad Apple: Because they want to give it Pro level pricing
2) Good Apple: They keep one 2019 15" model at a lower price point for awhile and only offer this in place of the higher tier 15"
 
Does anyone know how to view All Comments, but ordered by Highest Rating? That functionality seems to have been removed by the site changes, it's super annoying!
 
Are you kidding me? Who in their right mind would buy this, let alone anyone here on the MacRumors forums has enough cash to buy this?

If the starting configuration is similar to a $2799 15-inch, I’d consider it.
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DigiTimes: 16-Inch MacBook Pro to Launch by End of October With Ultra-Slim Bezels and Scissor Keyboard

Welp, that settles it. If DigiTimes confirms it’ll happen, under no circumstances will it possibly happen.
 
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