Yeah, it was more of an "well, we are having an event and it's ready," instead of a tentpole feature.
Depending on what is in the 16" it could be. But it needs a decent supporting cast of products to make it worth holding an event.
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DigiTimes: 16-Inch MacBook Pro to Launch by End of October With Ultra-Slim Bezels and Scissor Keyboard
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Depending on what is in the 16" it could be. But it needs a decent supporting cast of products to make it worth holding an event.
ISTR about 11 months ago, the new 6 & 8 core iMacs were absolutely, definitely going to be launched in October, and didn't turn up until March.
The only hard evidence so far of an earlier launch is that icon in 15.1 which you wouldn't suspect Apple to do until the launch was imminent but - as I've said earlier - that could just have been a mistake that has left some poor former sub-junior software engineer in Cupertino is starting a promising new career in burger-flipping.
so if we follow your logic, there can’t be a November event because there hasn’t been one before, then how did the first October event happen? It was the first right? So there wasn’t one before.
I’m not saying that there will be a November event, but with absolute certainty they’re not making real life business decisions based on superstition, tradition, and numerology-esque nonsense. That’s absurd.
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In the old days they had the introduction in fall to get ready for the holiday sales season. Lets face it. The Mac is a great production tool and computer and i will not live without one. So they can introduce a new Macbook any time of the year now. They do not have to worry about the Holiday sales with the Mac's. The Apple watches, the Airpods, the iPhones and the Ipads make up the holiday sales now. The Mac now has it's freedom timeline to put it out when it is ready. When i worked at Target, the Thanksgiving sales would make your head spin on these devices. in the i stuff
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We will. But it won’t matter. Your logic will still be wrong, Apple still won’t be making decisions in such a fashion, regardless of whether there is a November event or not.
Any chance you could install Mojave on these when they launch? I'm really not excited about Apple killing so many good old apps with Catalina. I'd like the new hardware but would prefer to run an older OS on it.
Apple is the largest technology company in the world, they can bring things out anytime they want now. The Apple stock is so valuable, the quarters of revenue almost do not matter any longer. They are like their own country. If they want to bring out a new Mac on new years eve 12oclock it is not going to effect any sales revenues. This is not a bad thing 9 percent, it means that Apple can be more creative with the mac and try to things to make it grow. What percentage is Chevy Corvette is for GM? Only 11 percent, but everyone wants one and they keep on making them better
The vast majority don’t need a Pro, and Apple doesn’t intend it for them.
The Mac has been consistently in the top four of vendors. It is not struggling.
Perhaps, but none of that has anything to do with the highest-end Mac laptop.
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White iBook, 2001. No event. Radical redesign.
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If I understand your logic, you believe that Apple treats missing an October event like they missed the 7:05 train and need to wait for the 10:07. That is not the case. It's a flawed thesis because Tim Cook is not going to say, "Darnit. We didn't hold the briefing in October. Guess we need to wait for the March iPad event."
Now, I also feel some of your thesis is correct, and that if we get into the second week of November, it is unlikely Apple will host a streamed keynote. Apple's streamed keynotes are geared around consumer products, and most MacBook Pros fall into that treatment.
That said, I think if Apple is still going to hold an event it will be around November 5th, which is at least close enough to October to get the impact they need. They are a little tied up with the TV and earnings next week.
Where we differ is in our classification of what is a new product. They press-released a new iPod Touch in May, but that was just upgraded internals. Falls into your thesis properly. It's what I call a small p product launch. The 16" MBP, if all they did was change the keyboard and shrink the bezels, to me that is not a capital p Product. Capital P products, I agree Apple isn't likely to announce what they consider a capital P product without a streamed event.
If the 16" is a radical redesign of the form factor -- and a slightly bigger screen isn't, and they are changing all of the MBPs to that form factor at the same time, that's a streamed keynote event.
I like your explanation.
I think the 16" MBP release is imminent. I don't think that can be argued. Too many reports of it being in production.
This is not a radical re-design. From the leaked photos of the presumed final product, it looks exactly the same as what we have now.
We *could* get a press release on Friday (tomorrow). If that does not happen, a November 5th announcement/release is possible.
I'm in the same boat. I was ready to upgrade when the 8-core model was released but the rumors of the 16" in September were swirling. if there's any truth to the recent rumors (multiple) the release is now eminent whether we get an event or not. I'm guessing like everyone else but I've got my hopes up for next Tuesday.
Actually, it was under Steve Jobs that the consumer/professional distinction was introduced on laptops. (Desktops already had it with the Performa and LC lines.)
A few years within the Jobs era, he made a very clear professional/consumer distinction. He literally put up this slide:
The MacBook Air came three years before Steve Jobs died, so it's kind of weird to bring that up.
The 16-inch MacBook Pro is not intended for your personal needs, and a professional is probably gonna keep it for four years, put it on leasing, and spend $63 a month.
There is nothing that a professional can't do on a $1k ThinkPad, especially with Apple's intentional crippling of Mac OS in the past decade [Disk Utility, the new crap security features that almost corrupted a partition table yesterday that kept having my terminal request permission to XY and Z]. I pray that the 16 in MBP [I mean MB for consumers because Apple proved Pro is not for pros] that is speculated to be announced is not $3K.Actually, it was under Steve Jobs that the consumer/professional distinction was introduced on laptops. (Desktops already had it with the Performa and LC lines.)
A few years within the Jobs era, he made a very clear professional/consumer distinction. He literally put up this slide:
The MacBook Air came three years before Steve Jobs died, so it's kind of weird to bring that up.
The 16-inch MacBook Pro is not intended for your personal needs, and a professional is probably gonna keep it for four years, put it on leasing, and spend $63 a month.
It seems you are confusing a consumer phone with a pro machine for work.
I miss the old Apple. We'd get zero bezels in an update and see new 14" and 16" MacBook Pros for around the same high-end price points. With the Tim Cook Apple we now keep the existing old ones, and get an extra 16" MacBook Pro Pro, for $3-4,000 instead. URG.