So why is it the iPhone 12 instead of the 11S?
11S Pro Max would sound awful.
When they launched the Xs it was Xs Max, now there is also Pro in the name so S would be the a third modifier after the number, too much.
So why is it the iPhone 12 instead of the 11S?
The iPhones released in the fall are widely rumoured to have new designs with new screen sizes and Apple will want to market it as such. If switching from an aluminum build to aluminum/glass from the 7 -> 8 this generation will also skip the S cycle.11S surely. Not 12.
if the new iPhone in September is delayed due to the Coronavirus, so be it, I'd rather wait than workers making the phones getting sick which in turn makes the virus worse.
Most of the time they are though. I always stop reading when it says it comes from Digitimes.hopefully you are joking....
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They aren't always wrong....they have their sources from somewhere.
Nooooo!!! I’ve been waiting for 15-16 months to finally rid myself of this XSMax Intel monstrosity. It’s been marked on my calendar that September of 2020 would be my day of liberation. They can’t push it back!!
Curse you, coronavirus!!!!!
I read in the New York Times today that China believes that the spread of the virus is slowing and that other regions of the country may be able to resume production soon. We are far enough out from June that I think they could still meet the deadlines.
I gave my reason why I'd want a smaller phone. You mistook that as me making the argument that this is an entire market that is needing to be filled. Sorry for your confusion. There are plenty of people on this forum who value the size of an iPhone 5 over the larger, more expensive iPhones.Yeah, giving up that “it’d be nice to have a 2nd cheap/small backup phone for traveling” market... just to get that “hey, finally a normal sized brand new iPhone for cheaper than most Android phones- this is for me!” market.
Apple is really missing out big there.
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It doesn’t sound like you’re making an argument that this is an entire market that is needing to be filled, but rather just saying there’s a few (dozen? hundred?) people on this forum who want them.I gave my reason why I'd want a smaller phone. You mistook that as me making the argument that this is an entire market that is needing to be filled. Sorry for your confusion. There are plenty of people on this forum who value the size of an iPhone 5 over the larger, more expensive iPhones.
It doesn’t sound like you’re making an argument that this is an entire market that is needing to be filled, but rather just saying there’s a few (dozen? hundred?) people on this forum who want them.
Based on orders to suppliers, the “SE2” is expected to sell 30 million units during its first year. Apple apparently doesn’t think that a 4” screen could sell like that, but some users (not you) of 4” iPhones think there’s a real demand for a 4” phone, but for some reason no manufacturer is interested in filling it.
Selling a couple million or 5 million or even 10 or 15 or 20 million doesn’t make a 4” iPhone a viable product.If apple made a 4” se2 they’d be expected to sell millions still. You can’t measure demand for an unreleased phone. Not even Apple. You have to use common sense. At some point they made a decision to stick with iPhone 8 design probably because it was easiest for them and consumers are used to the design.
Selling a couple million or 5 million or even 10 or 15 or 20 million doesn’t make a 4” iPhone a viable product.
Android’s got 4 or 5 times as much market share as Apple, and there’s no 50-100 million unit demand for a 4” Android phone. Whether their customers spend $100 or $1,500 on a phone, they want a bigger screen. iPhone customers are no different.
But some 4” screen fans will never accept that. In their fantasy world, if only Apple would make the perfect iPhone—i.e. the one they want, whether it’s a $300 iPhone like the SE or a $800 iPhone like the 11 Pro—Apple would have a huge hit.
There’s such a thing as market research. You can ask people what their ideal phone size is. And of course Apple sold 3.5” and 4” iPhones for many years, just as they sold 11” MacBook Airs and 17” iMacs. There’s a reason none of those products exist anymore.
It sure takes a lot of effort to explain why you think Apple doesn’t know what their customers want. Customers themselves don’t know what they want? Apple’s market research is pointless and unreliable? There’s no evidence to support those claims.People don’t know their ideal phone size or what they want. Your market research is pointless and unreliable. Apple can dictate demand. That’s how they roll.
I’m not sure why you feel bent on saying there’s no demand for a 4” iphone. If apple made it you’d be on board. That I have no doubt. But there’s only so many iPhones you can make. It makes a lot of sense for them to stick with a proven iPhone 8 form factor.
Taiwan-based suppliers are gearing up for production of a new lower-cost iPhone, a device that has been tentatively referred to as the iPhone SE 2 or iPhone 9, according to paywalled information shared by DigiTimes.
While the lower-cost iPhone may be on track, DigiTimes also reports that Apple has stopped sending engineers to China to assist with the Engineering Validation Test or EVT stage of iPhone 12 development. Last month, Apple said it was restricting travel to China to "business critical" purposes only due to the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak, which has also forced many Apple suppliers to suspend operations.
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As a result, DigiTimes believes iPhone 12 models are unlikely to enter production in June, citing unnamed industry sources. Given the coronavirus outbreak is a fluid situation, though, timeframes may change. If the production delay ends up materializing, it is still very possible that Apple will announce its iPhone 12 lineup in September as usual, even if supply of the devices is tighter than usual.
Rumors suggest that the iPhone 12 lineup will include four new models, including one 5.4-inch model, two 6.1-inch models, and one 6.7-inch model, and each will likely be equipped with a faster Apple-designed A14 chip. DigiTimes expects A14 chip orders to be 50-60 percent higher than A13 chip orders.
All of this information was shared in DigiTimes' Daily Digest for paying subscribers, with the full reports likely to be released by tomorrow.
Update: The full DigiTimes report has been released and, as we suspected, it claims that the iPhone 12 production delays are unlikely to affect Apple's plan to announce the new devices in September.
Article Link: DigiTimes: Apple Suppliers Gearing Up for iPhone SE 2, But iPhone 12 Production May Fall Behind Schedule [Updated]