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DigiTimes Claims Display Improvements in Next-Generation iPhone
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most markup on electronic items/gadgets is generally 3~5%.. Iphone is nearly 200%.
Hardware-wise iphone is pathetic to most other phones (4G aside)
it's the OS that sells as it is..amazing even my mum can use it
Because, judging from the pictures of prototypes/production samples/whatever they are, the ceramic back has a slightly rough texture, like matte black paint, and the sides of the phone are 'stepped' with sharp(ish) edges thanks to the metal bezel. If this is what the final product will be like, it's bound to be less slippery than the glossy and curved back of the 3G/3GS which is more like a soap bar when it comes in contact with sweaty palms. Is that really an unfair assessment?
While I'm flattered that your obsession with me has now reached stalker proportions, I'm not going to swallow your troll bait by condoning your habit of breaking into OT tirades about myself in completely unrelated threads. Having said that, I'm not going to let you get away with lying, so let's try this one last time:bedifferent said:
You wrote:
This, in your strange mind, is a contradiction. And it would be, had I actually written that last year (I bought an MBP 17" in June of 2009). But as anyone can see with their own eyes, I didn't write that "last year", I wrote it on January 11 of 2007, 6 months before Apple released the first 17" model with 1920x1200. Prior to that, the 17" models were 1680x1050, a standard resolution for 15.4" models, hence my complaint, Sherlock. Do you understand the timeline now?
Early 2007: I want to buy a Mac laptop but won't, due to the crappy resolution.
Mid-2007: Apple adds a 1920x1200 option for the 17" model.
Late 2008: Apple makes 1920x1200 the standard resolution on the 17" model.
Mid-2009: New 2.8 and 3.0 GHz models are released, and I buy one.
I called you out on your lie about the dates, but rather than at least admit you made a mistake, you're now trying to convince the forum that posts from 2007 are not in the records, despite the fact that you already linked to the post from 2007. So who's doing the "nice try", bedifferent?
That's right, I'm not going to encourage your increasingly erratic behavior of writing long winded OT posts about me in thread after thread, after I already advised you to use PM for your personal vendettas, to spare others from the embarrassment and thread clutter.
I'm not sure why nobody ever told you about the concept of mixed feelings, but you see, here in human society we don't love or hate everything unconditionally. I own a crapload of Apple products but I still have negative things to say about the company, just like I own a crapload of Microsoft products and Adobe products even though both companies make me want to puke, especially the latter. Deal with it, and stick to the TOPIC. And get a room, but know that I won't be in it.
Well it's the least they can do if they want to compete with other top of the line smartphones. I was considering buying the HTC Desire but after reading this I think I'm going to wait another month to see if it's really true.
Those HTC phones, do they sync with both PC and Mac and is the software any good? Otherwise Apple has a leg up on the competition with iTunes. It's not the most, er, compact sync utility in the world, but it works.
Didn't I just say "I already advised you to use PM for your personal vendettas, to spare others from the embarrassment and thread clutter"...?
I'm trying here.
I can see no such product on the LG site or the other claimed panel manufacturers site which seem to offer a 960x480 display in a 3.5" package.
Furthermore as much as it would be awesome to have, the resolution is insane per inch, it's higher than very high quality monitors at that point and would be difficult to discern the difference over say a 360x720 or some other lower resolution display.
Finally someone on this very forum in the past week suggested that apple may use X panel (can't recall) from some other manufacturer in an approximate 320x720 or 480x720 resolution if I recall as this product was mass produced in 3.5" sizes for another phone or some such - reducing apples overhead.
I'd love for them to have some insanely good display but from a memory buffer standpoint as well as power use and so on, I am not entirely convinced this is true.
Someone please find me a 480x960 display of ANY KIND by some kind of panel manufacturer in a 3.5" package and I may believe this a bit more (I wish I could!)
Also 512mb and A8 processor seems illogical when only last week the Viatnamese guy did a pull down and clarified an A4 CPU and 256mb - why would they put a more powerful CPU and ram in the iphone 4 rather than the ipad?
This sounds like a 'I wish!' rumour - not a solid one
Furthermore as much as it would be awesome to have, the resolution is insane per inch, it's higher than very high quality monitors at that point and would be difficult to discern the difference over say a 360x720 or some other lower resolution display.
Finally someone on this very forum in the past week suggested that apple may use X panel (can't recall) from some other manufacturer in an approximate 320x720 or 480x720 resolution if I recall as this product was mass produced in 3.5" sizes for another phone or some such - reducing apples overhead.
I'd love for them to have some insanely good display but from a memory buffer standpoint as well as power use and so on, I am not entirely convinced this is true.
Someone please find me a 480x960 display of ANY KIND by some kind of panel manufacturer in a 3.5" package and I may believe this a bit more (I wish I could!)
Also 512mb and A8 processor seems illogical when only last week the Viatnamese guy did a pull down and clarified an A4 CPU and 256mb - why would they put a more powerful CPU and ram in the iphone 4 rather than the ipad?
This sounds like a 'I wish!' rumour - not a solid one
But that's just it... the assumption here is that Apple will have first dibs on this panel, so naturally there wouldn't be any info on the LG site or elsewhere. It wouldn't be the first time that Apple gets an exclusive on something – IIRC, Intel made the shrunken CPU in the MBA just for Apple, and I think they had an exclusive on something else from Intel for a while (some iMac CPU was a transitional model inbetween two Intel generations, I think).
So, all bets are off. Sometimes they wait until the cost comes down, sometimes they use suspiciously old components, but sometimes they also pull an industry-first. We'll know in a matter of weeks.
That is complete nonsense. Do some research. There have been teardown pricings of other high end smartphones and the markups are similar.
Note: when I see complete nonsense from a new user, I assume they are here for trolling, so you will be joining my ignore list. Even if you aren't trolling, you are so ill informed that you will likely never add anything of value to the conversation.
Goodbye.
I'm sorry but just because some of it makes a small portion of sense doesn't mean it's logical.
Doubling the resolution of the iphone is insane, 330 PPI is bloody high and likely expensive. I for one can NOT find a manufacturer of a panel which even does the claimed resolution.
A 720x480 display would still scale 'fairly well' all things considered because it's still so damned high anyhow that people will have difficulty spotting the pixels, why bother throwing the extra money, cpu, memory, battery at an even higher one which frankly - few people will notice?
Have you even LOOKED at the pulldown of the internals? Both the Gizmodo and the Vietnamese pulldowns showed a very slimline and basic interior to the phone circuitry. It's a miracle it fits the CPU, carrier radio chip and flash ram as it is, let alone adding a second spot just to solder on another 256mb of ram. LOL and no - sorry.
If they did free up the space they'd offer 64gb well before they offer 512mb (as some rumours have it that there is no single 64gb flash chip in the same package size as the current 3GS ones, therefore since it only fits one flash inside - you won't be seeing 64gb ... hopefully it's not true)
Here guys.
Go find their sites and products, go look up their displays - tell me if you can find ANYTHING in 960x480 OR 960x640, it simply doesn't exist - and no news posts or PR announcements in the past 9 months (besides iphone rumours) have clarified this.
Traditionally news gurus, nerds and smart people will correlate new products with existing core part news announcements. Example if a new flash chip, capable of holding 128gb in a single package was announced, one can guess SSD's using the old manufactrers chips will increase in size soon or phones (etc)
There's NO NEWS on a 960x??? touch screen display anywhere - if you find it, bring it here. Debating is pointless - let's do the googling and find it, I've tried and I can't find anything.
Again... why would there be news on it, if it's an upcoming product that Apple will get an exclusive on? Sometimes Apple does negotiate deals like that, sometimes they don't. If the first-dibs customer happens to be the most secretive company in the world, it's not bloody likely that LG would yell "wohoo! look what we built!" in a megaphone before the new iPhone has been officially unveiled.
We'll see, but the absence of news doesn't mean much, really.
TBH, I have no idea about syncing with Mac but overall the software is very good. Runs great. You can access full flash sites without any hiccups. A lot of apps available for it and the remote function for accessing your computer is pretty neat as well. Haven't tested it thoroughly enough to determine it's full capacity though.
OK. Is the quality any good? Build wise, I mean. A buddy of mine had an HTC phone a few years back when they were still running Windows, and it was so awful (partly because of Windows mobile but mostly the hardware) that he actually took it out in the back yard and trashed it, Office Space printer-trashing style.
While I share your skepticism of a 960x640 display, I don't think not finding it already in production is a reason. Apple has enough sway to get made to order screens and a period of exclusivity.
I figure it won't be there because it is ridiculous overkill that mainly benefits the spec sheet. Exactly the kind of thing Apple normally doesn't do.
I do realize that they have larger screens, but at the same time their resolution width is almost the same as the resolution height of the iPhone. I don't know how likely a 960*640 resolution would be thought, but that resolution would eliminate the problems with upscaling the current applications, and it would keep Apple ahead of the game.
But you are definitely right, that 960*640 resolution might be overkill for a display that size (especially since it appears to be marginally smaller in the upcoming phone). Also considering the resolution of the iPad is 1024*768, which is not a whole lot more on a screen that is a lot larger.
It's a very sturdy machine although button placement could be better plus there's no quickbutton for your camera. Also I think the design is a bit "flat". That's why I'm leaning more toward the new Iphone design. Many people hate it but I love it. The previous model looked a bit too feminine imo.
Overkill perhaps, but interesting due to the fact that 330 PPI is very close to crossing the line between discernible pixels and real world detail, something we haven't seen before. Quite a breakthrough in widely available technology. Once displays break that barrier there'll be no use for anti-aliasing on the fly (no more "ClearType" algorithms etc), which might help performance a bit.
The only potential downside I see is the increased resource utilization. Sure, the A4 might be fast, the battery might be larger, the RAM might be bigger, but if those advantages will be gobbled up by driving a 300% workload increase in terms of shuffling pixels, will it be worth it? Every itty-bitty GUI bitmap will have to be 4x the size and 4x the detail of the current ones, meaning they'll take up more storage capacity and more RAM.
Just because you cant find any info on a 960x640 display being in existence doesn't mean apple doesn't have one for use in their new iPhone.
Check out the specs of the new htc hd3...it has a 1280x800 resolution in a 4.5 inch screen. I did some searching and I couldn't find any info on a screen like that...but htc apparently has it...so I guess it exists. I find it believable that apple will have that new screen for their iPhones..
The pixel density of the new htc panel is 335ppi. So for everyone out there saying it doesn't exist....there ya go!
Check out the specs of the new htc hd3...it has a 1280x800 resolution in a 4.5 inch screen. I did some searching and I couldn't find any info on a screen like that...but htc apparently has it...so I guess it exists. I find it believable that apple will have that new screen for their iPhones..
The pixel density of the new htc panel is 335ppi. So for everyone out there saying it doesn't exist....there ya go!
I believe I saw one of those in the wild yesterday
(I live near Redmond).I wonder if it is using a PenTile RGBW matrix display, that would easily account for the high pixel density.
http://nouvoyance.com/technology.html
A conventional 720x480 LCD display would require 1,036,800 sub-pixels;
a PenTile RGBW matrix 960x640 LCD display would require 1,228,800 sub-pixels.
That's only about than 20% denser; additionally it would be twice as bright.
Perhaps this is what Apple is doing.
