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Boring ... can they not add something exciting like USB-C ports or a SD Card slot? I think either will bring some new interest to the Apple product line.

I'd love a USB-C port and for iOS 10 to include a simplified file manager, so that you'd be able to store things on an external drive.
 
I am not buying the whole 4k display, 3D Touch, pencil support and better battery life. Does it come with a electric toothbrush and shaver as well. It will be nice if Apple can pull it all off but I am not holding my breath.
 
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4k would be nice only if the apps are optimize for it. Its like with the surface pro 4 display. Gorgeous display but most of the apps and programs aren't optimize for it.
 
It's for all those people who buy a 40" 4K TV, sit 2-3 metres away and can tell the difference between 1080p.

The markerting works. Many will update for the 4K display alone.
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Guess you never owned an iPhone 6 Plus ;)
I bought it the first day it released and still using it. Ram does nothing to handle the display. It is gpu's (graphic processing unit) job which has its own memory, cores, etc. Rams job is to hold apps currently in use in its own memory to make it available faster than the flash storage. It has impact on the overall system performance but it has nothing to do with the resolution. iPhone 6+ is slower because of the cpu and gpu not ram.
 
4K is highly doubtful, and definitely overkill. Apple isn't one to play the number/specs marketing game just for the sake of it.

All the retina Mac displays are ~220 ppi, all retina iPads are 264ppi (mini is the oddball at 326ppi), all retina iPhones are 326ppi (6/6s Plus is the oddball at 401). Anything more than that yields little difference in real world usage at the cost of processing power and battery life.
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There is more to a better picture than whether you think you can deceive a pixel difference or not. One can also perceive a picture as better than another even without pixel differentiation.
When you can't perceive a difference in resolution anymore, then the "better picture" is differentiated by color reproduction, saturation, contrast, etc. Resolution (ppi) can only improve image quality until you can't perceive the extra resolution anymore.

If you have a high quality 1080p TV and a crappy quality 4K TV of the same size next to eachother, sit far enough away that you can't resolve the pixels on the 1080p TV, which one will look better?
 
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4k Display AND better battery life (plus the rumors of it having 4 speakers like the Pro)? Either this iPad is going to get thicker than the Air 2 or it is not going to happen.

Ditto with 4 speakers the iPad Air-3, I wonder how much would it add to its weight and make it bulkier. That would be a disastrous ploy by apple.
 
I have read in multiple places, including the following, that the human eye (a good eye, of course) can resolve up to 700ppi at 25cm:

http://bit.ly/1WQwHvY

If true, adding a 4K or even 5K pixel density screen to a 9" iPad would not surpass the eye's pixel resolving power. If anything, a higher resolution would merely make what you see in photos all the more realistic. To me, that is desirable and awesome, so long as the GPU can stay up to speed.
What ppi the eye can resolve is going to change depending on how far away the screen is and of course the level of vision of the user. The closer you are to a screen, the higher resolution it needs in order for you to not perceive the pixels. Apple's "Retina" displays are right near the limit for the "normal" distance someone with "normal vision" would use each particular device, so some people who like to hold their devices a lot closer may be able to discern pixels.

I can resolve pixels on my iPad mini 2 (326ppi) if I hold it as close as I can possibly focus with my glasses off (so literally like 3 inches from my face), whereas my iPhone 6s Plus (401ppi) still looks smooth. No one is going to use their devices that close for any extended period, so anything significantly more than ~400ppi is going to be beyond the resolution of a human eye at any realistic distance.

That being said, the 9.7" iPads only have a 264ppi, so there is definitely still some room for improvement. Some people may hold their tablets as close or closer than their phones, so the lower ppi of the 9.7" iPad can definitely be noticeable. That's actually one of the reasons I went with the iPad mini, because the screen looked "sharper" due to the higher ppi at the distances I use it at. A 3072x2304 (3K??) 9.7" iPad screen would be ideal, as would a 4096x3072 "4K" iPad Pro - that would put them both at ~395ppi.
 
I bought it the first day it released and still using it. Ram does nothing to handle the display. It is gpu's (graphic processing unit) job which has its own memory, cores, etc. Rams job is to hold apps currently in use in its own memory to make it available faster than the flash storage. It has impact on the overall system performance but it has nothing to do with the resolution. iPhone 6+ is slower because of the cpu and gpu not ram.

Not slower, it's the crashes. Reviewing all the logs, all my crashes were due to device running out of memory, using the 6 for a month, no issues, same apps.

Dude, if you game or run intensive apps, at a higher resolution, CPU + RAM + GPU are stressed more. Granted GPU takes bulk, though CPU and ram is also impacted, simple basics.

The same CPU + ram + GPU in the smaller resolution 6, no issues .

If you got a retina MacBook etc, play around with resolutions and check the resources , usage etc.
 
Ok, obviously it is NOT going to be a 4K screen, or have 3D Touch...

However, if they double RAM again already... add pencil support & 4 speakers, all in a slightly slimmer profile, with a slightly nicer screen.
I have to admit - they've got me!
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I agree. The display will not be 4K, but it will be the Metal Oxide type display from the iPad Pro with the improved contrast and power consumption.

It will probably have the same speaker system as well, it would certainly be a disappointment if it didn't.

I agree as well... as a matter of fact, I think those are clearly obvious & we can count on them... I think the only HUGE "maybe" is the 4gb RAM!!!
I'm really really really hoping for it, but doubting it.
I think I'll still bite, even if they don't though... the 2gb in my Air 2 seems to be fairly sufficient & what I really want most is 4 speakers, twice as loud, slimmer w/ a better screen that also provides for better battery life, & pencil support!
 
4K is highly doubtful, and definitely overkill. Apple isn't one to play the number/specs marketing game just for the sake of it.

All the retina Mac displays are ~220 ppi, all retina iPads are 264ppi (mini is the oddball at 326ppi), all retina iPhones are 326ppi (6/6s Plus is the oddball at 401). Anything more than that yields little difference in real world usage at the cost of processing power and battery life.
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When you can't perceive a difference in resolution anymore, then the "better picture" is differentiated by color reproduction, saturation, contrast, etc. Resolution (ppi) can only improve image quality until you can't perceive the extra resolution anymore.

If you have a high quality 1080p TV and a crappy quality 4K TV of the same size next to eachother, sit far enough away that you can't resolve the pixels on the 1080p TV, which one will look better?

If they're the same the same quality, the 4K one will look better. Because even if you can't consciously perceive a difference, 8 times out of 10 I bet people would point out the 4K TV as having the better picture of the two.
 
because the ram and the resolution is soooooooooooo related *rolleyes*

You're telling me that programs that utilize the full screen with their own graphics (let's say a program that's creating/manipulating full screen images as you're using it) will run just as well on a device with 2GB of RAM as 4GB of RAM?

The iPad Pro is just an iPad with a bigger screen, you don't think the RAM bump has anything to do with the larger screen? To make programs that are using the larger screen run more efficiently? Why didn't they just leave 2GB in it?

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If they're the same the same quality, the 4K one will look better. Because even if you can't consciously perceive a difference, 8 times out of 10 I bet people would point out the 4K TV as having the better picture of the two.

Considering you just built a big straw man (same quality), that's not the case in real life at normal viewing distance ( and not their nose in the glass).

I'd bet I'll take the top range Plasma of 2014 and 90% will take it over a lower to mid range 4K TV.

See we can all set up whatever scenario we want; except mine will actually actually exists.

Why 90%? Because they suck at every other thing but resolution. You do know that's more to image quality than resolution don't you?

At the top end of 4K (most expensive LED and OLED), the improvement in other factors than resolution make those TV noticeably better than most 1080P because they have better dynamic range, contrasts, gamut, etc.
 
Considering you just built a big straw man (same quality), that's not the case in real life at normal viewing distance ( and not their nose in the glass).

I'd bet I'll take the top range Plasma of 2014 and 90% will take it over a lower to mid range 4K TV.

See we can all set up whatever scenario we want; except mine will actually actually exists.

Why 90%? Because they suck at every other thing but resolution. You do know that's more to image quality than resolution don't you?

At the top end of 4K (most expensive LED and OLED), the improvement in other factors than resolution make those TV noticeably better than most 1080P because they have better dynamic range, contrasts, gamut, etc.

When I said "Image quality" I was referring to "dynamic range, contrast, gamut" etc. With everything constant (citibus paribus), except for resolution (4K vs. 1080p) I bet 8 out of 10 times people will choose the 4K as having a better picture.

My point is not that there are other factors that are more relevant and perceivable than resolution atm - but instead that resolution will still produce a better picture, even though there are so many nuts out there saying the hard cap is ~500ppi for the human eye (depending on viewing distance).
 
When I said "Image quality" I was referring to "dynamic range, contrast, gamut" etc. With everything constant (citibus paribus), except for resolution (4K vs. 1080p) I bet 8 out of 10 times people will choose the 4K as having a better picture.

My point is not that there are other factors that are more relevant and perceivable than resolution atm - but instead that resolution will still produce a better picture, even though there are so many nuts out there saying the hard cap is ~500ppi for the human eye (depending on viewing distance).

Those other factors are not relevant in actual 4K sets most people can afford now, the small (40-55 inch) underwhelming 4K sets where resolution is their only calling card and they're actually worse in all other ways than other LED sets you can buy for the same price. You'd have to site 4 feet away from many of those sets to actual get the resolution they are advertising! And then you'd still get a crappy TV set right in your face.

Initially, 4K is mostly used as a marketing spec to move more TV sets rather than a real advantage.

That's my point. Right now, for most people, I'd recommend buying the best under 65 inch 1080P set they can afford rather than a 4K set.

In 5 years, the response may be different; but not now.
 
I bet it will have the same res as the current iPad pro, four speaker design, not slimmer than the iPad Air 2., just as slim.
It won' t support the Apple Pencil, I think and it won' t have a smart connector.
I don' t think there is space for the digitizer for the pencil and the smart connector in such a thin device.
It wil feature a 2ghz( slightly clocked down) a9x.

Why?
A lot of apps are already adjusted to the new iPad pro res. Or will be in the next few months.
It will encourage developers even more to adjust the res if the new iPad Air has the same res.
Putting in a a9x in the new mainstream iPad will encourage developers to make more complex apps because of the processing power.

This move would be an advantage for the iPad pro platform.
 
So, my guess is that the iPad is going to get a 4K display just because it's something that can be done, not because it needs it. However, I'm currently sitting in front of a 27" 5K iMac and can't see any pixels at all. Albeit up closer, the iPad will, I'm guessing, have four fifths the number of pixels on its screen. A screen that measures in at under 10 inches! So if the current Air has a ppi count of 260-odd, what will it be on the Air 3? Does it NEED that many pixels on-screen? What will the visible difference be? I think I'd prefer even more extra battery life than they are promising.
Screen resolution is the new megapixel wars. Samsung was showing off a phone with an 11K screen at CES. Because specs.
 
Screen resolution is the new megapixel wars. Samsung was showing off a phone with an 11K screen at CES. Because specs.

Their current phones GPU can barely drive 3K... Man, they truly are lost!
If they were selling a VR set in 5 years it would make sense, for now this is insanity.
 
I doubt 4k... they would have given that to the iPP if Apple was seriously considering it. I think the Air 3 will have Pencil support or 3D touch (not both) same 2GB of Ram, A9 processor, added rose gold color. Maybe just maybe they'll include that lame LED flash for the camera but the Air 3 won't be more powerful or have a better screen than Apple's new iPP (that was promoted to be the "best display we have have ever produced.")



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