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That's not coming to Samsung next year. Samsung undoubtedly makes the best OLED hardware, but I highly doubt they gave Apple anything better than what they give themselves.
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DisplayMate: iPhone X Has the 'Most Innovative and High Performance' Smartphone Display Ever Tested
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That's not coming to Samsung next year. Samsung undoubtedly makes the best OLED hardware, but I highly doubt they gave Apple anything better than what they give themselves.
Wrong. I said Apple loves the notch for distinguishment. I don't care what people think, but I did need a phone that could last past noon, so I tried the X. "Mine" stood out because it was the only X. Has nothing to me wishing to stand out, but thanks for your free psychoanalysis.
Yeah, a hole in the center is identical to a small notch, nice one.
Yeah, a hole in the center is identical to a small notch, nice one.
Yeah they did something wrong when calibrating these apple screens. I think they completely screwed up the white point somewhere along development and mad these screens a nasty yellow hue. Something needs to be done to fix this.
Samsung made it to Apple's specification, but they don't have the nounce to write the software drivers that make it look as good as it does.
Having spent a few days with mine, I think the display is the weakest part. The off-axis colour problems make it feel like a backward step from my old iPhone 6.
That’s what I thought until I saw the display test. Apple actually uses the same diamond pixel layout found in many Samsung phones. It’s just plain Samsung hardware. They just calibrated the display to their liking...
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Amen to this! Let’s move on. The important question is how well the display’s going to age.
They hold many more patents than just the powder within OLED displays, They own many of the manufacturing processes, sub-pixel patents, methods for reducing burn-in ETC. I am not saying Samsung doesn't hold a vast library of patents, however many of them rely on UDC patents, and their improvements associated to them. Similar to many of Apple's LCD patents relying on the underlying technology they based it on.
You should also take a look at UDC's financials, and what Samsung pays them in licensing before you pass judgement on who gains what. Stock for UDC jumped when it was reviewed that Apple was going to produce a device using OLED. While Samsung benefits from Apple paying licenses to their patent portfolio, in some ways, UDC does even more.
At the end of the day, I agree with something you indirectly touched on. Taking a stroll into the Legal information on an iPhone (and any Smartphone for that matter) will reveal a plethora of patents device makers like Apple, Samsung HTC, LG and others license to make our smartphones possible.
It is rare that any of the features / inventions we enjoy in our devices, actually came directly from an idea from that given manufacturer.
By the Way. People crediting Pentile as being a Samsung Invention, need to listen to this wonderful inventor, about some technology Samsung Purchased when they purchased her intellectual property. Without her, we wouldn't have the amazing displays we enjoy in many of our devices.
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Except not all the screens are calibrated properly. There unreal amounts of screens that have yellow hues to them and don’t show white at all. It’s like they failed to calibrate the white point properly. My screen constantly look like night shift is on the lowest setting. There’s no difference between night shift being on, and off. Either way it looks the same.
It may not seem quite as natural to you, but the iPhone X screen is definitely, objectively closer to reference than the S6. And in fact, Samsung has only in the last couple of years been able to get their color accuracy to where I would consider it "acceptable." I'd bet that one of the reasons it took Apple this long to get an OLED screen is because they didn't think the tech was really there yet until now.
People will have their personal preferences, sure. We have to accept that. For a long time, people were used to cheap LCD displays that usually exhibited a noticeable blue shift. A lot of TVs also had that in their "standard" modes, which is why most TV calibrations start with the Warm2 mode. So in fact, it's possible that your preference is for "cooler" whites. But that doesn't change the objective reality of what the reference should look like.
IMO, getting as close as possible to reference is important because that's as close as possible to the intended look of the creators.
You may have missed it, but Samsung simply produced in mass quantities the display that Apple developed. Apple designed and developed it, provided the specifications to Samsung, and Samsung used their equipment to produce it. That's all. That's like me making a recipe for an award winning chili, but me giving you the chili to make in your kitchen since my kitchen was under renovation. I made the recipe, you simply cooked it for me.
I don't know why people are making such confident assertions that on who, and to what degree, the technical design of the screen an be ascribed to Apple or Samsung. The truth is none of us know and neither Apple or Samsung are likely to say, for their own reasons. People are just pulling the assertion from where the sun don't shine.
You have to be kidding.
The Displaymate report states it has amongst the best off-axis colour retention of any smartphone display, and whilst there is a slight blueing of the screen the more you tilt it, it's nothing dramatic until you get to extreme viewing angles.
And not to rely on the report alone ...do you remember there was a raft of complaints when some of the iPhone 4 screens favoured a yellow hue? That was an LCD display! Personally, I'll take the off-axis colour shift along with the benefits of a more accurate colour palette on-axis and sharper images all round. It just proves the old adage: You can please some of the people some of the time, you can please some of the people all of the time, and you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time.
Perfection is impossible.
Well great. I'll just go on down to the store and pick up a prototype then!
Displaymate can say whatever they want, but the fact is that if I put it side by side with my iPhone 6 and move a bit, white stops being white pretty quickly on the X, while it stays perfectly white on the 6.
The on axis color palette of my iPhone X is awful. Everything is a nasty dingy yellow hue. If I turn my phone just slightly maybe even 1mm it becomes perfect. There are plenty of folks phones out there that have this issue. There is something wrong SOMEWHERE.
Night shift on the lowest setting is exactly the same as my phone with night shift off the setting doesn’t change my screen. It’s almost like night shift hues are stuck or something.
There are floor models in the apple store that look perfect and don’t have this issue, yet there are some on the floor that do. There is once again “yellowgate”. For 1000$ there shouldn’t be, apple needs to do something.
How do you know? From what I've read on Displaymate, it seems Apple is only responsible for software/calibration.
You might have a bad device. Speakers are Amazing on my Device.
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And design. Notch
The most innovative CPU, display, face scanner, iPhone X is incredible.
I don't see where they said that, I think they said that it has one of the best off-angle viewing, but included brightness in that. That being said, if their sample was anything like my phone, they are either crazy or blind. The color shift is horrible. I thought I could get used to it, but the more I use it the more I hate it. WAY worse than my iPhone 6. It's simply not a credible device for photography with a screen like that.
It sounds like there may be different types of screens out there, maybe Samsung isn't running the same process on everything. I simply can't believe everyone else is looking at the huge shift I see and saying it's "relatively small".
And how Displamate know that ? They may know only what Apple told them and Apple told press that this display was fully engineered and designed by them, not Samsung.
I don't know, maybe there are different types of screens out there, or the qc on them isn't great. On my screen, you have to look at it pretty far off axis to see the shift, and it's a pretty subtle shift at that. I'm not saying you're lying, but either you have a defective screen, or your assertion that it's "not a credible device for photography" is total hyperbole.