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The wrist issue isn’t caused by the watch, but it seems to add to some of the discomfort she’s having. She’s trying to put off having surgery on it and had 5 Cortisone injections so far, which are agony for 2 weeks and only give 2 months of relief.

The removal of the watch has helped like the consultant advised, how much may be psychological, I do not know? She’s always worn the sport loops yeah, she’s never liked the rubber Sport bands.
So it was a condition diagnosed by the doctor that was happening? She has a condition causing tingling sensations right?

Knew that it cannot be the Apple Watch even the straps or the sensor. Just sensitive.
 
So it was a condition diagnosed by the doctor that was happening? She has a condition causing tingling sensations right?

Knew that it cannot be the Apple Watch even the straps or the sensor. Just sensitive.
She hasn't had a diagnosis as they can't pinpoint exactly the route of the pain. She did break her elbow a few years ago and that is a theory as the nerves are linked. Just removing the Apple Watch will not stop the shooting pain, but its helping at least so far.

She was just saying actually that shes glad she stopped wearing it also for the reason that its too connected to apps and she is enjoying not having the distractions. She's got quite a demanding job so I'm all for it if it takes a bit of the stress away.
 
She hasn't had a diagnosis as they can't pinpoint exactly the route of the pain. She did break her elbow a few years ago and that is a theory as the nerves are linked. Just removing the Apple Watch will not stop the shooting pain, but its helping at least so far.

She was just saying actually that shes glad she stopped wearing it also for the reason that its too connected to apps and she is enjoying not having the distractions. She's got quite a demanding job so I'm all for it if it takes a bit of the stress away.
Ohhh so it’s a terrible injury that caused nerve damage.

So it got worse later on? Was the injury work related or accidental?
 
She hasn't had a diagnosis as they can't pinpoint exactly the route of the pain. She did break her elbow a few years ago and that is a theory as the nerves are linked.
I once cut a finger, and the entire finger felt numb for a while, not just the immediate area of the cut. The feeling eventually came back, but it took a while!
 
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Hope you don't mind another flower picture, but this one turned out so surreal, I just had to share!
 
I once cut a finger, and the entire finger felt numb for a while, not just the immediate area of the cut. The feeling eventually came back, but it took a while!
Her symptoms are limited movement and a lot of pain deep in her wrist. Two years on it’s not gotten better and doesn’t help it’s her mouse hand. She’s putting off surgery and her chiropractor is trying some things as a secondary measure.
 
Her symptoms are limited movement and a lot of pain deep in her wrist. Two years on it’s not gotten better and doesn’t help it’s her mouse hand. She’s putting off surgery and her chiropractor is trying some things as a secondary measure.
Two years is a long time! I can understand being reluctant to get surgery. Hope the chiropractor helps.
 
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Ouch that’s seems awful!

Did she go to A&E after the fall? Had fall detection on her Apple Watch?
Yeah she did and had x-rays, which discovered she'd cracked her elbow. Arm was in a sling for 5 weeks.

I can't remember if fall detection went off on the watch, she was wearing a Series 4 at the time and I can't remember if that watch had that feature or not.
 
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Yeah she did and had x-rays, which discovered she'd cracked her elbow. Arm was in a sling for 5 weeks.

I can't remember if fall detection went off on the watch, she was wearing a Series 4 at the time and I can't remember if that watch had that feature or not.
Apple Watch Series 4 has fall detection that was the first Apple Watch to have this feature.

did she enable it during pairing the Apple Watch? If her health profile is like 55 years of age or older it’s turned on by default regardless even if she set it up during pairing. It’s quite a bad fall though, but why did she refuse surgery for the broken bones and nerves?
 

It’s quite a bad fall though, but why did she refuse surgery for the broken bones and nerves?
@The-Real-Deal82 said she cracked her elbow. I doubt a surgery was required for that. What I got from his posts is that she didn't initially need surgery, but after the crack healed, she continued having pain in her arm/wrist, and a surgery was suggested to relieve that. My previous experiences with such things is that more often that not, there's no guarantee that the surgery would correct the problem, and even some chance that it could make it worse or lead to other complications.
 
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@The-Real-Deal82 said she cracked her elbow. I doubt a surgery was required for that. What I got from his posts is that she didn't initially need surgery, but after the crack healed, she continued having pain in her arm/wrist, and a surgery was suggested to relieve that. My previous experiences with such things is that more often that not, there's no guarantee that the surgery would correct the problem, and even some chance that it could make it worse or lead to other complications.
Ohhh that’s why so she just let the bone grow out of it right?
 
Ohhh that’s why so she just let the bone grow out of it right?

"Bone grow out"? Where are you getting such impressions?

What I got was she wore a sling for a few weeks after she cracked the elbow, and that should have healed the bone. But for some reason, she continues to experience pain in her arm.
 
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"Bone grow out"? Where are you getting such impressions?

What I got was she wore a sling for a few weeks after she cracked the elbow, and that should have healed the bone. But for some reason, she continues to experience pain in her arm.
Oh, I meant that if you break a bone (🦴) and don’t undergo corrective surgery, it will naturally grow and heal itself.

However, some people opt for surgery anyway because the orthopedic surgeon determines that if the bone grows and heals on its own, it will become misaligned or crooked. In such cases, plates or screws are implanted in the bone to correct the alignment. This is only done in the most severe cases.
 
Oh, I meant that if you break a bone (🦴) and don’t undergo corrective surgery, it will naturally grow and heal itself.

However, some people opt for surgery anyway because the orthopedic surgeon determines that if the bone grows and heals on its own, it will become misaligned or crooked. In such cases, plates or screws are implanted in the bone to correct the alignment. This is only done in the most severe cases.
Never heard that expression used to mean let bone heal naturally without surgical intervention. Is this a British usage?
 
Never heard that expression used to mean let bone heal naturally without surgical intervention. Is this a British usage?
Pretty sure it is based on how The Real Deal said about his wife going on this path, but I used to have a HS teacher of mine that I had for chemistry and biology class when we were distance learning and schools barely reopened. She did break her arm not badly like that former Apple Watch user said but my former teacher fell down while skiing on Colorado mountains on spring break to soak up some fun before it closed for the season, and did have corrective surgery done a week or two after the accident so the doc can put the bone back together after a huge fracture. We had a sub for a few weeks when we came back from break due to this, and she had to be on a cast for the rest of the school year.

It is dependent on how the doc sees the x rays/CTs/MRIs and the extent of the fracture. If it's not a small one and/or can be easily resolved by using splints and casts then the specialist may have to do a surgical procedure. Even the baddest cases I seen these BIG braces some people wore on their limb(s).
 
"Bone grow out"? Where are you getting such impressions?

What I got was she wore a sling for a few weeks after she cracked the elbow, and that should have healed the bone. But for some reason, she continues to experience pain in her arm.
Yeah the crack wasn't bad enough for surgery or a full cast, or that was how it was deemed at the time. The wrist pain also didn't start at the time of the fall and developed some months later. She has gone private for this since and one of the best hand surgeons in Wales is struggling to determine the exact source of the pain. The assumption is it was linked to her fall and her chiropractor also agrees with this. The surgeon has given her 5 or maybe 6 continsone injections in pretty much a 360º pattern around her wrist (not all at once obviously), and each time it has been agony for a couple of weeks as the gel settles in the joint, and aftetr that she'll get a couple of months relief before it comes back. His next step is exploratory surgery, which scares her as he's admitted he isn't sure what he'll find, despite 2 MRI scans.

He did suggest removing her Apple watch as he thought there is a chance the signals from the sensor could be interferring with the nerves in her wrist. The chiro also echoed this advice and she has not worn it for a few weeks and noticed 'some' improved change in the pain level. She's trying to avoid surgery due to the fact she's been told she won't be able to work for a couple of months. She is driving strategy for a leading medical company and can't hand that over to someone else at this point, hence her doing everything she can to alleviate the pain via any other method.
 
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Yeah the crack wasn't bad enough for surgery or a full cast, or that was how it was deemed at the time. The wrist pain also didn't start at the time of the fall and developed some months later. She has gone private for this since and one of the best hand surgeons in Wales is struggling to determine the exact source of the pain. The assumption is it was linked to her fall and her chiropractor also agrees with this. The surgeon has given her 5 or maybe 6 continsone injections in pretty much a 360º pattern around her wrist (not all at once obviously), and each time it has been agony for a couple of weeks as the gel settles in the joint, and aftetr that she'll get a couple of months relief before it comes back. His next step is exploratory surgery, which scares her as he's admitted he isn't sure what he'll find, despite 2 MRI scans.

He did suggest removing her Apple watch as he thought there is a chance the signals from the sensor could be interferring with the nerves in her wrist. The chiro also echoed this advice and she has not worn it for a few weeks and noticed 'some' improved change in the pain level. She's trying to avoid surgery due to the fact she's been told she won't be able to work for a couple of months. She is driving strategy for a leading medical company and can't hand that over to someone else at this point, hence her doing everything she can to alleviate the pain via any other method.
With all the advancements in medicine, there's still so much we don't know. Chronic pain is such a little-understood field. Doctors aren't sure of the cause, and they can't be sure of the treatment. I hope your wife finds something that works.
 
With all the advancements in medicine, there's still so much we don't know. Chronic pain is such a little-understood field. Doctors aren't sure of the cause, and they can't be sure of the treatment. I hope your wife finds something that works.
Yeah the crack wasn't bad enough for surgery or a full cast, or that was how it was deemed at the time. The wrist pain also didn't start at the time of the fall and developed some months later. She has gone private for this since and one of the best hand surgeons in Wales is struggling to determine the exact source of the pain. The assumption is it was linked to her fall and her chiropractor also agrees with this. The surgeon has given her 5 or maybe 6 continsone injections in pretty much a 360º pattern around her wrist (not all at once obviously), and each time it has been agony for a couple of weeks as the gel settles in the joint, and aftetr that she'll get a couple of months relief before it comes back. His next step is exploratory surgery, which scares her as he's admitted he isn't sure what he'll find, despite 2 MRI scans.

He did suggest removing her Apple watch as he thought there is a chance the signals from the sensor could be interferring with the nerves in her wrist. The chiro also echoed this advice and she has not worn it for a few weeks and noticed 'some' improved change in the pain level. She's trying to avoid surgery due to the fact she's been told she won't be able to work for a couple of months. She is driving strategy for a leading medical company and can't hand that over to someone else at this point, hence her doing everything she can to alleviate the pain via any other method.
So @The-Real-Deal82 the consultant is continually still trying to find the source of the nerve damage, right?

I think I found a thread on how someone quitted wearing their AW like that here's the link: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-watch-burn.2432107/page-3?post=33419975#post-33419975 but the OP came back on wearing his AW after the issues with the sensors was resolved later on.
 
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Yeah the crack wasn't bad enough for surgery or a full cast, or that was how it was deemed at the time. The wrist pain also didn't start at the time of the fall and developed some months later. She has gone private for this since and one of the best hand surgeons in Wales is struggling to determine the exact source of the pain. The assumption is it was linked to her fall and her chiropractor also agrees with this. The surgeon has given her 5 or maybe 6 continsone injections in pretty much a 360º pattern around her wrist (not all at once obviously), and each time it has been agony for a couple of weeks as the gel settles in the joint, and aftetr that she'll get a couple of months relief before it comes back. His next step is exploratory surgery, which scares her as he's admitted he isn't sure what he'll find, despite 2 MRI scans.

He did suggest removing her Apple watch as he thought there is a chance the signals from the sensor could be interferring with the nerves in her wrist. The chiro also echoed this advice and she has not worn it for a few weeks and noticed 'some' improved change in the pain level. She's trying to avoid surgery due to the fact she's been told she won't be able to work for a couple of months. She is driving strategy for a leading medical company and can't hand that over to someone else at this point, hence her doing everything she can to alleviate the pain via any other method.

Despite your avatar, you seem like a genuinely good dude, and I hope this isn't offensive, but chiropractic is nonsense for the most part. I know that some modern chiros actually forego the roots of chiropractic, but it's rooted in the belief that diseases are not real and that the symptoms that present as disease are simple due to spinal alignment. Cancer? Not real. Cold and flu? Not real. They just need the Chiro to align your spine. Modern chiropractics actually sometimes forego the roots of chiropractic and do acknowledge that it's nonsense, but still operate under the chiropractic umbrella. So what is their reasoning?

Alternative advice is great but it needs to be viewed in context. And I put chiropractic into the same category as faith healing, and personally I'm not ok with either of them.


At the same time, a back rub can feel SO good and the benefits can outlast the session.
 
Despite your avatar, you seem like a genuinely good dude, and I hope this isn't offensive, but chiropractic is nonsense for the most part. I know that some modern chiros actually forego the roots of chiropractic, but it's rooted in the belief that diseases are not real and that the symptoms that present as disease are simple due to spinal alignment. Cancer? Not real. Cold and flu? Not real. They just need the Chiro to align your spine. Modern chiropractics actually sometimes forego the roots of chiropractic and do acknowledge that it's nonsense, but still operate under the chiropractic umbrella. So what is their reasoning?

Alternative advice is great but it needs to be viewed in context. And I put chiropractic into the same category as faith healing, and personally I'm not ok with either of them.


At the same time, a back rub can feel SO good and the benefits can outlast the session.
I don't know anything about the chiropractic belief system, but the back adjustment did wonders for my back pain.

I've also had shiatsu massages, and I think they do have a good sense of how nerves in different parts of the body interconnect. Getting a full body massage was so wonderful, and I could feel how putting pressure on one part of the body caused other parts of my body to relax.
 
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