I have no idea how many hours it still takes to upkeep this feature that’s been implemented years ago and hasn’t changed since. Do you? And if we go down your path who knows what we end up stripping away for supposedly “better things” that have a supposedly “greater impact”. It’s pretty abstract.
i am all for discussion, clear about my opinions being my opinions, yet still attacked for not agreeing with ppl with a different POV. how many ppl here make 'absolute' statements here, when really, they're just voicing an opinion.
who is 'we' in this scenario? that's your problem right there; you're speaking for yourself, you don't represent anyone else 🤔
Because a lot of people get bored. It’s as simple as that. It’s the only reason we’ve been having an interface revision every 4 to 6 years.
I can't cite any hard statistics with respect to dwindling market share percentages, but I'm not sure you need them to feel the AI winds over the last few years. The continued rise in popularity of PC gaming and AI/LLM workflows have certainly benefited NVIDIA's fortunes. Microsoft is certainly way ahead integrating AI workflows into their ecosystem. While more hardware manufacturers are embracing ARM, the prevalence of AWS and cloud computing makes hardware agonistic solutions more attractive, certainly in terms of cost. Android is more competitive than ever and has brought actual useful AI to market quicker than Apple. Even Meta is starting to deliver some interesting products to market. All of these trends are a threat to Apple's hold on their customer base, reputation, and ecosystem. When you start seeing more and more people with hybrid PC/Mac setups, you see folks becoming less dependent on the ecosystem and that costs services revenue, something Apple has increasingly relied on. A quick YouTube search for "Custom PC builds" will deliver you plenty of sexy market hype that rivals Apple's own.
This is an unfortunate truth. Liquid Glass, in its current incarnation at least, has spread out from Vision Pro not out of necessity for a better user experience but because it makes good marketing.
And sometimes when a company fails to deliver useful or compelling features that "just work".
Yup that’s why I moved from Windows to Mac. Been pretty smooth sailing so far and wouldn’t go back.
Anything's going to seem better than Windows—talk about a low bar.
I agree, though I think it's good that Apple tries these things, especially when you can switch them off. After all, they have the metrics to allow them to determine whether a feature is worth keeping or not. I suspect this is what happened with Launchpad. i.e. the metrics showed a rapid decline in use, and so they ditched it. Things is, there will always folk who rely on a particular feature, as these forums show.
Yeah, it's like putting a steering wheel on a motorcycle. Different formats need different approaches.
You haven’t heard?
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Found your own OS? Look around for a support group? Beyond that… I dunno, I don’t think I can solve that issue for you. 🤷♂️
that some people are UX designers? and that a team of UX designers work for apple? and that the rules are things we invent (with purpose, of course). and that we don't all think the same, or see things the same...
I think it's fair to say that most people participating in this thread that most of the people love their Macs and probably prefer them to a Windows or Linux machine. For the sake of argument, let's take that as a given. It's also fair the say, that about 70% of the poll respondents are either underwhelmed or dislike LG on Tahoe. A lot of us are critiqueing the UX and visual design because it's a detriment to our workflows or enjoyment of using some pretty pricey tech that we've invested in. For a lot of Mac users there is an implicit agreement we make with Apple to give up a certain amount of control over the look and feel of the devices. But when a new OS fails to meet standards that Apple itself sets, then we have few options. We can choose not to upgrade. We can downgrade, but as of a couple of days ago, this only an option for macOS. We can file feedbacks, complain, and critique on forums and hope that Apple is willing to listen and address warranted criticism. Or, the option of last resort for many of us, we can jump to another platform. I'm choosing to critique and listen to other points of view. In my view, that's what Apple should do as well, but it takes courage and honesty. I asked you earlier, maybe you missed it, when you jumped from Windows to Mac. It wasn't some sort of gotcha question, I was genuinely curious to know if you've noticed a decline in the software quality since you first made the change and how it improved your workflow.
It could look like a supermodel for all I care. The problem is that it treats me like garbage, now more than ever. At least with Linux and, to a certain extent MacOS, I feel like the system respects me. I'd much rather use a plain, but thoughtfully designed and user-friendly system, than a beautiful, user-hostile mess.
100% all of this! I'm a iOS dev on the side and I'm really missing out on a bunch of new tech that I've been wanting to try out, but instead I'm missing out. If I was making a living doing iOS work I'd probably suck it up. Eventually, I'll probably have to if I want to keep it up. But this janky and tacky update is demotivating. Aside from the aethetics and usability issues, an app with this many bugs would never get past their own app review let alone their Human Interface Guidelines.
