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Do you like the MacOS Ventura System settings? [MERGED]
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this is an issue you're having, not a bug everyone is experiencing. you could try signing out, then back in. or you could call apple (again) and have them help you get it fixed.
I would perform a fresh install of macOS if you’re not experiencing this issue on other devices.
I, too, am not a fan of iOS-ifying the Mac. But I've been on Macs for over 25 years. My view of things like this is getting sunsetted because Apple continually needs to pay attention to its newer users who grew up with iPhones and iPads, and they're more mobile-oriented than people like me, even though I own an iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch. Had Apple made the interface more Mac-like when they first brought the iPhone out in 2007, things might be different.
i can't understand what's wrong with finding common ground with ios; it's a win for anyone embedded in the apple ecosystem, whether you're new to it... or not. and there's no loss for anyone without an iphone.
i've also been on macs for over 25 years (since the 6100/60!), and i am always geniuinely happy to see things evolve...
You mean Control Center (not Mission Control . . . Mission Control settings are under the Desktop & Dock heading). While it's true it would make sense to go under General > Date & Time, it also makes sense to go under Control Center because that top right corner is where all the Control Center functionality is.
I'm guessing because people with motor skill issues would require specific settings like that for ease of use.
Of course, the handy search function makes all this a non-issue.
I'm hating the new System settings, I wish there was a way to go back to the old system settings. Maybe someone will produce an app that does similar
Its just a disorganized mess. The old way, quickly scan for the item you need. Now I'm scrolling reading and then finally needing to use the search bar because its not where it used to be.
Its just a disorganized mess. The old way, quickly scan for the item you need. Now I'm scrolling reading and then finally needing to use the search bar because its not where it used to be.
The new Settings is a steaming hot mess in the UX department. Missing functionality and incongruent with expectations that have been well established for two decades. I don't know what the UI devs were smoking when they pulled this one together but I either want some or I want to stay away from it...
So many unemployed UI experts on here... 🤣
Sorry, couldn't resist it.
Sorry, couldn't resist it.
there are so many structural changes; seems both impossible and pointless.
change can be disconcerting! but everyone will adapt, and one day, you won't be thinking about how you felt it 'used to be better'.
As I posted earlier I have been using Ventura since the Developer Beta 3. At first I did not like the new "System Settings", but over time I have gotten used to it, and now prefer the new way. Give yourself some time to get used to it.
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Like clockwork you like to disagree and pop up at every chance. Some want to be productive and 'change for changes sake' breaks workflows which costs time and money. The baseline for UX changes is: what do we benefit from it? It's not a mobile OS, its supposed to use SJ's words: "the most advanced operating system in the world.". If it is, and continues to be so without looking increasingly childish and dumbed down, we can wait and see.
I believe I posted earlier about this, but now that I have Ventura installed, I stand by my previous statement(s):
It's not perfect, but I used it the first few hours after installing Ventura and haven't opened it since. I'm sure there are bugs and other usability issues (such as the inability to sort alphabetically), but I didn't come across any show-stoppers.
It's not perfect, but I used it the first few hours after installing Ventura and haven't opened it since. I'm sure there are bugs and other usability issues (such as the inability to sort alphabetically), but I didn't come across any show-stoppers.
This is the overall pattern with Apple's desktop work since Steve Jobs passed (PBUH). It just shows there is no vision at that company anymore. It's just a bunch of bean counters who sit around thinking about shares and quarterly reports.
They've been milking the subscription model from day 1 of the post-Jobs era.
As for the original question,
No.
How is it a win?
I have always thought a lot of the design decisions for phones came down to necessity in terms of making the most of limited screen space. And that has to have been true when they first came out.
But now things are reversed. What started out as work-arounds for screen space - sacrificing features and presentation - now drives the design of things with no such space limitations.
what 'features and presentation' are being sacrificed? once you start getting used to it, it's smart, logical, functional.
either way, this is how it is. so (as i keep pointing out) we adapt...or complain endlessly. adapting certainly seems like the more productive and practical response...
it's ok for me to have my opinion, just as it's ok for you to have yours. and we're both allowed to post our thoughts.
reading thru the ventura forum, lots of people like it, and lots of people realize they'll get used to it. the rest will complain, until they get tired of that, and will... adapt. that's how this works.
And that is the key point, getting used to it. I have no issues with the new layout. Sure I now have to ask, okay where did they put this and I eventually find it and log it into my memory bank. It's become plainly obvious that Apple is going for a more unified look across all its platforms.
Not that fond of it. But it’s ok. Next macOS after Ventura I have forgotten the old style.
I can deal with changes.
There are more important things in life.
I can deal with changes.
There are more important things in life.
try the search window in settings, helps to (at first) find things. once you know where they are, they'll always be there (well, until apple changes things up again 🤣)