I agree, Steve most likely would be the first one on the band wagon of making the Mac OS look as much like the iPhone OS as possible.
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Do you like the MacOS Ventura System settings? [MERGED]
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Yes, I forgot to mention that and I did that several times in the last week and found what I was looking for.
I don't like Ventura's System Settings, but I didn't really like System Preferences either. We put up with a lot there because we were used to it.
Before we had problems with Settings on iOS and different problems with System Preferences on macOS. There's nothing so different about macOS that it needs an entirely different design than Settings, so now we have the same problems on both.
My hope? Maybe now that we have (essentially) Settings on both and one set of problems the problems will start getting fixed.
I've using the Mac since 1984 been through every version of the OS there is from when it was called System Software to now as Mac OS, I can tell you why I don't want my Mac to be like or look like the iPhone (just like I don't want my Mac to look like a Windows OS machine), they are two completely different devices and I use them them in two completely different ways. The only thing that my Mac and iPhone have in common is sharing data, otherwise I use them both differently so I really want my Mac to look and act like a Mac.
Since the time when I first stated using a Mac I have love using a point and click device to interface with my computer. No more remembering stupid lines of commands like MS/PC DOS or even Apple DOS. I hate touch screens on the desktop, it breaks my natural rhythm of work to take my hands off the mouse and reach across my desk to touch a screen, so for the last 38 years that has been how I used my computer and I really like it. I have had a iPhone since 2007 and I have never used a mouse with my iphone don't think that would work at all, always selecting by using my finger. So please Apple leave the iPhone OS out of my Mac and don't attach a mouse to my iPhone.
you win no points based on how long you've used macs, or when you got an iphone. that doesn't make you any more of an 'expert' than anyone else... or any more important.
and it just reinforces the point: that we all have an opinion, and that we're all entitled to an opinion. meanwhile, apple makes the OS, and it can do what it wants. so we adapt or complain. lots of ppl here seem to enjoy complaining...
@fisherking wins the prize of Guardian of the macOS Ventura System Settings.
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Now seriously, what's in it for you to come after everyone that posts in this thread that even remotely criticizes the Ventura Settings. I mean you are turning into a tyrant, imposing your opinion on everyone.
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Now seriously, what's in it for you to come after everyone that posts in this thread that even remotely criticizes the Ventura Settings. I mean you are turning into a tyrant, imposing your opinion on everyone.
I know the general consensus is that everyone hates it. I don't. The only thing that annoys me about it is that I can only change the sizing vertically. Won't let me make it wider.
But it matters that you have used Macs since the 6100 I see how that works, in no way did I say I was more of an expert than anyone else or more important (you have some kind of inferiority complex). Also you seem to take the complaints personally, what do you care if some people like the new System Settings or not, if they adapt or not, or criticise people who don't want to update their current version of the OS to Ventura, do you get paid for each copy of Ventura that is getting download?
What I only meant was that I have been using a Mac and iPhone for a long time and I like how both of them work, but they work differently so I don't need them look or act the same. It also means that since I have been using the Mac and iPhone a long time and have gone through a lot of changes to the look and feel of both, have adjusted to changes to both, not necessarily thought changes were needed or for the better, but am still a Mac and iPhone user and will be until something better comes along.
My only complaint is that what works well on the iPhone, does not necessarily work on the Mac and vice versa. I did not complain about the System Settings though I prefer the older System Preferences, yes I will get used to them and learn where everything is, but question whether we should have to just so Mac OS can look more like iOS.
In the new System Settings, why is "Displays" pictured as a sun? There are so many better icons that can represent "Displays"... The "sun" icon they have now implies more of a "brightness" than displays.
And why is Login Items under general and not under users, i.e. the login items pertain to a user account and are not general. I can come up with many more inconsistencies, but I already reverted back to Monterey. Could not stand this mess, and I don't mean only the system settings app.
And why is Login Items under general and not under users, i.e. the login items pertain to a user account and are not general. I can come up with many more inconsistencies, but I already reverted back to Monterey. Could not stand this mess, and I don't mean only the system settings app.
yes (as i'm not going to read all of that). i have an opinion. you have an opinion. glad we've settled that 👍
One of the positives about the new system app is that it is easier for my brain to process a word category rather than a bunch of colored icons. The icons I use a lot are easy to remember their locations. The icons I didn't use often I found myself playing a "hidden objects" game. 🧐
no, just sharing my opinion; i can't impose anything on anyone. just making my point (albeit, repeatedly) as you're doing now. only... am not attacking anyone personally (as you're doing now).
imagine how much more interesting and productive this forum would be if we discussed things more and complained less? but not the world we live in....
And that appears to be Apple's goal, which is a unified look across platforms.
That being the case, I'm sure you remember the control panel in System Software 6.
I would say that seems to be the case, if they continue along those lines at some point I might have to move to one of the Linux Distro's, because I really don't want my desktop os to look like ios.
because the GUI is more important that what happens under the hood? i never understand that. 'i don't like system settings so i'll run an older OS', etc.
personally, i am most concerned with the apps i use, and how they run. and everything is running really well on ventura. that, (for me) is the reason to use an OS.
The GUI is what it is all about, I can't make you understand that, it is how we interact with our computers not what is under the hood. What attracted me to the Mac at first was the interface, I did not understand or care what was under the hood. As I used the Mac longer I learned more of the underhood stuff, but the GUI is what it is all about, that is what I see and feel, of course I want a stable, robust, safe, OS and I have had that for the most part with Mac OS, but that is not what has keep me using the Mac for all these years, it is the interface, somehow the Mac interface works in a way that works for me, that Windows, Next, VisiOn, Gem, Atari ST, Amiga or OS/2 have never worked for me (OS/2 actually came pretty close).
The Mac interface just makes sense at least to me, but turning my Mac into a phone OS does not work for me and if Apple ever does change the MacOS so that it literally becomes iOS that will be when I get off the Apple train. Remember the applications and how they run mirrors the GUI, if you want all your apps to look like iphone apps then knock yourself out.
the GUI is in no way radically different from what it's been; just system settings is a new way of working with... settings.
but that's like saying that you have a great tv, and that makes watching bad shows ok; a glossy look over a bad OS seems worse that the other way around.
anyway, whatever works for you. i don't like everything apple does, but i like the mac OS (i also like the GUI changes we've seen over time), and that, plus my apps (logic, final cut; mail, etc) are what matter to me most.
Speak for yourself please. The people here represent a minority. The vast majority of users will not go to an online forum to share their opinion about a new operating system.
Nonsense. As SJ explained what the iPad was for, he understood the importance of delineation between Mac, iPhone and iPad and the tasks you do on them.
Most of this mess has been under Cook and Co. and that's without mentioning the struggle with Ive.
so ridiculous. it's a pointless exercise, to personally decide what jobs would think if he were here now. NO ONE KNOWS
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I prefer the old settings. Scrolling is natural on a phone or tablet but not so much on a PC. I'm sure that I'll get used to it. Having the Weather on Clock apps more than makes up for it.
A Handy Workflow to Open System Settings in macOS Ventura - Alfred Blog
Open the macOS Ventura System Settings via a workflow.
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For Alfred launcher users, there is a new Workflow that gives you quick access to the individual settings panes.