There's still a chance it will get Fire OS 5, but for 100 euro, it does not really matter if it only receives security updates.
But as an owner, I sure hope it does
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Do you really pay 900 euros for a phone?
- Thread starter chad.petree
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
But as an owner, I sure hope it does
There's still a chance it will get Fire OS 5, but for 100 euro, it does not really matter if it only receives security updates.
But as an owner, I sure hope it does
Aye at that price it's pretty hard to argue with, still rather a lot of phone for the money. Damn, don't get me thinking like that, I like new toys too much
I sorta agree with OP.
When you compare the cost of a cellular phone with other consumer electronic devices, it does seem like pricing is artificially inflated.
When you compare the cost of a cellular phone with other consumer electronic devices, it does seem like pricing is artificially inflated.
I might discourage you by telling you that now I see it only on eBay, no online stores.Aye at that price it's pretty hard to argue with, still rather a lot of phone for the money. Damn, don't get me thinking like that, I like new toys too much
I've had android ( to be specific nexus phones) for as long as I can remember, good prices and unlocked phones , no contracts whatsoever. I really liked them but I hate the direction google is moving now, it's not only that the pixel phones are very expensive, but google is fragmenting android even more, so I figured why not go the apple route this time, no update dramas, a working browser unlike the lag fest that chrome on android is and a really quick camera ... anyways I want to get an iphone 7 plus, but damn 900 euros? I don't want to let myself pay that amount of money for a phone.
How do you guys do it? Yes I know a lot of people buy them in contracts, but I pretty much get a new phone every year because I'm never satisfied ( yes how terrible of me I know) , so it doesnt make sense for me, specially seing how bad the iphone bezels are in need of trimming, besides contracts here in germany are awful, 68 euros a month plus an inicial payment of 290 euros? No thanks!
Is there people out there ( who are not rich ) who pay 900 euros upfront for a phone?
P.s. im a student earning 700 euros a month
I am a student too and I always sell my previous model to get the latest one. This year I sold my 6S Plus for £600, so I needed "only" £319 extra for the Plus 256. But this time I will be sticking to my Plus for 3 years.
Luckily my contract is due for renewal around iPhone launch, so what I do is this.
1) Upgrade to a non Apple device (This year was the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge)
This gets me a relatively new handset for free on a cheaper monthly contract (£41pm as opposed to £55+ with an upfront cost for phone)
2) I then sell last years iPhone and the Android phone the week or 2 between pre order and release of the new phone
3) Buy the new handset for little to no cost (This year i actually made £40 doing it this way)
On the alternating years i upgrade my wifes contract to last years iPhone, sell her 2 year old iPhone and my one year old iPhone and repeat the service. She doesn't care that she is not getting the latest handset.
1) Upgrade to a non Apple device (This year was the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge)
This gets me a relatively new handset for free on a cheaper monthly contract (£41pm as opposed to £55+ with an upfront cost for phone)
2) I then sell last years iPhone and the Android phone the week or 2 between pre order and release of the new phone
3) Buy the new handset for little to no cost (This year i actually made £40 doing it this way)
On the alternating years i upgrade my wifes contract to last years iPhone, sell her 2 year old iPhone and my one year old iPhone and repeat the service. She doesn't care that she is not getting the latest handset.
Honestly, I don't think that 900 bucks is that much of a problem. Yeah, it seems to be a lot, but given the fact what insane things these gadgets can do nowadays, I'm not too worried about spending a decent amount of chunk for them.
For example, I bought a Nokia E90 in 2009 - it did cost one thousand Euros by that time! And while it was brilliant for it's time, it couldn't do a fracture of what an iPhone is capable of today!
I agree that it heavily depends on how much disposable income you have... but as a lot of people already mentioned, you can easily re-sell it for 500-600€.
For example, I bought a Nokia E90 in 2009 - it did cost one thousand Euros by that time! And while it was brilliant for it's time, it couldn't do a fracture of what an iPhone is capable of today!
I agree that it heavily depends on how much disposable income you have... but as a lot of people already mentioned, you can easily re-sell it for 500-600€.
Sure, but many recoup half of the cost after a year when they sell it to upgrade to the new one. Can you sell any other one-year-old non-Apple devices for $450?
I've had android ( to be specific nexus phones) for as long as I can remember, good prices and unlocked phones , no contracts whatsoever. I really liked them but I hate the direction google is moving now, it's not only that the pixel phones are very expensive, but google is fragmenting android even more, so I figured why not go the apple route this time, no update dramas, a working browser unlike the lag fest that chrome on android is and a really quick camera ... anyways I want to get an iphone 7 plus, but damn 900 euros? I don't want to let myself pay that amount of money for a phone.
How do you guys do it? Yes I know a lot of people buy them in contracts, but I pretty much get a new phone every year because I'm never satisfied ( yes how terrible of me I know) , so it doesnt make sense for me, specially seing how bad the iphone bezels are in need of trimming, besides contracts here in germany are awful, 68 euros a month plus an inicial payment of 290 euros? No thanks!
Is there people out there ( who are not rich ) who pay 900 euros upfront for a phone?
P.s. im a student earning 700 euros a month
yes, because it's not only a "phone" but a full pocket computer with a great camera.
I think I am that stupid and I paid 1100 almost.... Damn Hungary - country of taxes and corrupt government...
Happy to see that I'm not the only Hungarian. lol
I only pay about $450 for it due to payments. Which is still technically more than the roughly $300 Apple pays to make it. Then I send it off and get a new one that I probably only keep for a year and pay the same amount for. It's been a long time since I paid full price for an iPhone. I think the last was the 5.
Truthfully, $900 is expensive, but it's also not that bad for a device that typically ends up being 100% reliable, is on 100% of the time, and is my primary source of internet consumption, reading material, communication with some people, and general amusement. I'm ok with that. It would also last me years if I wanted it to.
Truthfully, $900 is expensive, but it's also not that bad for a device that typically ends up being 100% reliable, is on 100% of the time, and is my primary source of internet consumption, reading material, communication with some people, and general amusement. I'm ok with that. It would also last me years if I wanted it to.
Samsung has been one of the best Android manufacturers in terms of OS updates this year. They've been releasing security updates every 1-2 months for their phones.
If people don't pay it outright then they are just essentially paying for it on finance through their phone contract.
Rival android phones aren't any cheaper, I think the Google Pixel is priced identically to the iPhone 7.
My iPhone is so much to me in my day to day life, phone, music player, camera, main source of media consumption, main device for general web browsing etc, wallet, main source of email, sat nav, personal organiser/calender, banking, to name just a few. I think the uses and amount I use it every day more than justifies the price.
If you just use a phone to make phone calls and send the odd message than no, its not worth the high price tag.
And in answer to your last question, I buy mine outright and am by no means rich. I bit the bullet and bought the iPhone 5 outright. Each year I sell and buy the new one, iPhones have such a good resale value that it usually covers over 50% of the cost of buying the new phone, so it was only a really big cost the first time I bought outright.
Rival android phones aren't any cheaper, I think the Google Pixel is priced identically to the iPhone 7.
My iPhone is so much to me in my day to day life, phone, music player, camera, main source of media consumption, main device for general web browsing etc, wallet, main source of email, sat nav, personal organiser/calender, banking, to name just a few. I think the uses and amount I use it every day more than justifies the price.
If you just use a phone to make phone calls and send the odd message than no, its not worth the high price tag.
And in answer to your last question, I buy mine outright and am by no means rich. I bit the bullet and bought the iPhone 5 outright. Each year I sell and buy the new one, iPhones have such a good resale value that it usually covers over 50% of the cost of buying the new phone, so it was only a really big cost the first time I bought outright.
i paid £912 for my 256GB 7 plus
however i got £440 for my 6s plus and will be selling my iPad pro 12.9 for £460 so really it's not a big deal.
however i got £440 for my 6s plus and will be selling my iPad pro 12.9 for £460 so really it's not a big deal.
But, but, new toy to play with
Yeah I remember the days of paying silly money for a fairly dumb Nokia or my Motorola Razr (the very first, stupidly expensive thin one)
iPhones, or whatever Android if that's your poison, aren't phones at all anymore. Sure they make calls and send texts, but there the similarity ends.
What you're actually investing in is a fully fledged, self contained, pocket computer and in the case of the iPhone 7 with its A10 Fusion chipset, one that's actually more powerful than many laptops on the market. And I dare say that's true of many Android phones too.
When you think of it as that, it's not so expensive anymore. Slap on a keyboard and a VGA/DVI adapter, hook it up to a monitor and you have yourself a powerful computer on hand. Yeah, I'm not getting into the debate about what software can and can't do, there's workarounds for everything. But you get my point.
I find it amazing. We take it for granted now, we're spoiled. But stop and think for a second. Those of us of a certain age, cast your mind back a couple of decades. This is actual, full fledged science fiction that we could only just barely imagine when we were kids. These are amazing devices and I think they are worth every penny.
......And I'm prattling on aimlessly, sorry, I've had to have more morphine than usual today. Time to shut up, slap on my cans and listen to some Pink Floyd I think
That's the answer.
Sure, it's an higher initial outlay, but iPhones hold up their value well, so you won't be paying nothing near 900 eu every year.
But I generally agree with Steve Ballmer then in 2007, who's gonna pay $500 for a @#%*$ phone? little did we know.
I would be surprised if you only lost £100 to £175 on sale of your phone. I bought a 6S 128 G yesterday for £450 pretty sure that was almost £700 when new. Interestingly it was a brand new phone manufactured in August 2016 with only 1 cycle on the battery. It seems some people selling their phones get them warranty replaced by Apple before listing. I could easily have afforded an iPhone 7 but after reading about problems with LTE connections, Problems with Bluetooth and BMW's, problems with various noises from the phone and without the "Courage" of Apple on the headset decided to save some money and get the 6S to replace my 6 which i had for two years.
I've had android ( to be specific nexus phones) for as long as I can remember, good prices and unlocked phones , no contracts whatsoever. I really liked them but I hate the direction google is moving now, it's not only that the pixel phones are very expensive, but google is fragmenting android even more, so I figured why not go the apple route this time, no update dramas, a working browser unlike the lag fest that chrome on android is and a really quick camera ... anyways I want to get an iphone 7 plus, but damn 900 euros? I don't want to let myself pay that amount of money for a phone.
How do you guys do it? Yes I know a lot of people buy them in contracts, but I pretty much get a new phone every year because I'm never satisfied ( yes how terrible of me I know) , so it doesnt make sense for me, specially seing how bad the iphone bezels are in need of trimming, besides contracts here in germany are awful, 68 euros a month plus an inicial payment of 290 euros? No thanks!
Is there people out there ( who are not rich ) who pay 900 euros upfront for a phone?
P.s. im a student earning 700 euros a month
Go back a few years, same complaints. Apple isn't going to change.
cant you live without a phone priced 900e? there are several phones starting from 300-400e which are as capable as a phone for 900.
Sure you can lose more than the 100-175, but I never have. Even if you look on say eBay just now (which is easily one of the worst places to sell it) and do a search for the sold iPhone 6s Plus 128GB, Unlocked, Space Grey and you'll find them for as high as, well I couldn't be bothered looking much, I'm far far too highly medicated right now to spend time looking through that, I've a ceiling to float across
but, £558 was one today. Obviously you'll get them down lower in the £400s, luck of the draw with an eBay auction.Go to something like Gumtree and have a look through there. Same phone, same spec, used obviously not the new ones and you'll find them up to £575 (maybe more, again couldn't be bothered looking.) Again, there's the luck of the draw factor, but if you're not in a rush, hold out and you get decent money.
Good god you can even get up to £440 from somewhere like Geek Squad or Envirophone. Thats obviously a bit less, but thats selling direct to retailers, where you always get completely and totally ripped off. But the point is, if that's what they are paying for it you can easily add £100-£130 on top of what they offer if you sell privately.
I mostly sell privately, and I always get a really good return on what i paid for my iPhones/iPads.
Just for a bit of visual, here's a 2 second search on eBay, as you can see these sold today, used devices, not new, not warranty replacements, for up to £558. That's not at all bad, especially for somewhere like eBay. But if you must, then put it on there, slap a good reserve on it and Bob's your aunties husband.
***Edit
Sorry, there's one other thing I forgot to mention in all of this buying and selling malarkey. That's what too much morphine does to you, make you stoopid
... Eh incidentally, just for the record, not a junkie, severe nerve damage. Anyway, one other thing I always do in this process is to use sites like Quidco. By doing that you can easily get £100 or more cash back, or sometimes a little less for your contract renewal year, that brings the initial cost of the phone down. Might as well run through the whole process....
During renewal year I'll also get some other mobile that I don't want with my new contract, but still has a decent value, and sell it on as well. So when you combine those you easily get £500-800 in cash.
That you can count whichever way you like. You can use it as part of your funding for your iPhones across the two years, thereby reducing the cost of each phone in the 2 year cycle. Or if you prefer you can use it to pay the contract for a year or so. I use it for iPhone funding as I'm paying for my mobile tariff anyway.
So essentially I work it as. Start of first year of renewal, sell old iPhone £550 ish, sell mobile from network, £500-£600 and £100 cashback That gives me up to £1250. That then pays for that years iPhone with about £350-£430 left over for next years phone.
Start of second year, sell my iPhone, £550 ish again and on average £400 left over from year one gives me £950. Buy new iPhone and have £130 left over for the next year.
Then the whole cycle repeats itself, over and over again. (Those sale prices are based on previous years and taking into account this years purchase price of course, the sale price should be higher next year with the price of the phones going up this year. And it may well be fuzzy in places, my apologies it's not easy to think properly in the state I'm in
)But overall it's a fairly effective system for continued iPhone purchasing. And of course if your just starting out with your first iPhone, do the same. Get the cash back, keep it for year two and it helps with the second iPhone purchase. Then once you get to year three and your on your renewal, it all gets better.
That of course is if you want an iPhone every year. If you just want to to upgrade every two years you can just get a new phone from your carrier. You'll get less when you sell your phone because it's older, but you'll have less to pay to the carrier doing it that way anyway.
Right that's it I'm really done this time.
........ I think
Last edited:
It was the price hike the iPhone 7 received in the UK that stopped me getting it this time. I went from the iPhone 6 to the 6S instead. I really couldn't justify a phone that was considerably more expensive but only marginally better this time around. I'm loving the 6S and the saving too.
You can't sell used Android devices for $450 cause you can buy the same model brand new in stores for that price.
Apple controls the prices of iPhones and only drops the price after a new model comes out. Android phones can usually be found brand new on sale from stores after 6 month they are released.
Evidence: since this year Apple increased base storage size, last years 16gb iphone6s and 6s+ models will not hold value. Good luck trying to sell a 16gb iPhone 6s for anything close to $500