You'll get support as long as an entire model series doesn't have problems. I'm sitting here with a broken 6 Plus Touch IC (Touch disease) waiting on Apple to either a) get sued, or b) recognize it as a problem and fix it. There are a whole lot of people in the same boat.
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Do you really pay 900 euros for a phone?
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You'll get support as long as an entire model series doesn't have problems. I'm sitting here with a broken 6 Plus Touch IC (Touch disease) waiting on Apple to either a) get sued, or b) recognize it as a problem and fix it. There are a whole lot of people in the same boat.
iphone costs alot because it can many things that you used to buy and carry, all in one device:
1) Garmin GPS $200
2) camera $300
3) computer $600
4) ipod $300
5) cell phone $300
not including Internet of Things that iphone also control: lock, garage door opener, sprinkler controller, thermostat, etc.
1) Garmin GPS $200
2) camera $300
3) computer $600
4) ipod $300
5) cell phone $300
not including Internet of Things that iphone also control: lock, garage door opener, sprinkler controller, thermostat, etc.
Yes and no. It can do all the above, but not as good as some of the dedicated devices.
About your pricing, i would say you're a bit off...
- GPS - €100-150 (included some of Garmin models)
- Camera - €100 (Canon or Nikon)
- Computer - we can argue about this, but phones will never be a computer replacement. More like a quick excess for info on the road.
- iPod - €240 (and it can be used as camera and as a "computer" for all the iOS apps)
- Cell Phone - €20 (any cheap Nokia will do the job)
and new iPhone 7 starts in Europe at €759 and the 7 Plus at €899...
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and you carry all of those devices with you everyday, can't you? and good luck with updates on those devices.
the convenience has its cost too.
I've been reading a bit about this recently since it first cropped up in the press, but I'll admit my knowledge on it is a bit limited. My own 6 Plus has been fine, well it still is.
What I do find odd is that people are saying nothing's being done about it. Have you been into the Apple Store about it, what did they say? I am genuinely curious about it and what they claim the problem to be.
Again I can only go on my own firsthand experiences with Apple. In the somewhere between 15-20 years (getting too old to remember
) I've been an Apple customer I've only had 4 problems, well, 3 and a bit as I'll boringly ramble on about I had an iMac with a faulty video card quite a few years ago now. I called Apple, we chatted, ran some tests and the next day a replacement iMac arrived.
My first iPhone 4 had an issue with the display/graphics? It would just go black seconds after being switched on. Again, called Apple and the same result. Next morning a replacement iPhone 4 arrived.
The 3rd problem (this is the, and a bit one) I was in the Apple Store, just to make a purchase and during chatting with the chap there happend to mention the mute switch on my 6+ was a little loose. Not broken, it still worked fine, just felt a little loose and I certainly wasn't asking for a replacement or saying it was a fault. But nonetheless he asked to see it, had a brief look and said. I'll get you a new phone. That was out of warranty, no AppleCare and as I say, I wasn't even saying it was a fault.
Final and most recent problem was a couple of weeks ago. The back of my wife's Apple Watch came off when she removed it from the charger. I do have AppleCare on that but it was only 11 months old anyway. Went onto Apple chat, went through the usual routine with serial numbers and so on. In total it took less than 10 minutes. Again, the next day a replacement Watch was delivered (just the Watch bit, no strap or anything.)
So that's the sum total of my experiences with Apple support, though of the friends and family I know who have had dealings with them, they all echo my experiences. Which is why I've naturally nothing bad to say about them. I'll only ever take into account that which I personally experience or can verify.
It's also why I like to hear about issues and experiences such as you are having yourself. One can never have too much information.
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I'm not arguing against or for any of that, fight it out among yourselves
But one thing I just can't help myself with, because I'm in a typing mood. Our "phones" today regardless of their being Apple/Android aren't phones anymore. Haven't been for a long time. Despite their ability to make calls and send texts, though texting is itself not a requirement in the definition of a phone, they are most definitely computers.
We still like to call them phones or cellphones or mobiles, whatever your poison is. But what we hold in our hands are the very definition of "computer".
Computer, noun. An electronic device which is capable of receiving information (data) in a particular form and of performing a sequence of operations in accordance with a predetermined but variable set of procedural instructions (program) to produce a result in the form of information or signals.
Sorry, had to get it out of my system
But no, they're not what we would typically use the definition of computer for, as in a desktop or laptop computer. They're in general more limited in scope than either of those.
You have to wonder though, look at the way the market is headed. If, like me, you're old enough to remember computers as they were. Being the dominant device used for our accomplishment of tasks. Then track that forward over 30 or so years to where we are now, as people increasingly use "phones" and tablets to achieve those tasks. How long will it be before computers as we knew/know them are nothing but another entry in a technology museum. It'll happen one day, probably, maybe.
Damn I'm far too reflective this morning, maybe I should watch some TV, that should kill off a few brain cells and thought processes
You can't call them phones, and i can't call them computers... its more like a communication device with extra features. So definitely its not a computer.
You can't call them phones, and i can't call them computers... its more like a communication device with extra features. So definitely its not a computer.
What we want to call them is irrelevant, they fall under the dictionary definition for computer.
Though I do like your thinking, we just need a snappy name for it. Compunitator? Nah, that's crap
I don't pay 900 euros because I'm American...hehe
But still I don't really pay much after giving tmobile my old phone I think I pay like 20 something a month for 12 months and then trade for the newest one. So I pay between 200-300 dollars to use a phone that I put at least a minimum of an hour of usage a day, every day, for an entire year (usually 3-4hrs collectively throughout the day if you include using it for music and such). So even at 300 a year, for me, the iPhone is one of the best investments per usage that I make every year (of course I could still do almost if not everything on my 6S that i can on my 7 but I digress). Now paying 900 bucks a year for an iPad would be crazy. My iPad pro will be around at least 3-4 years before I even consider trading up.
But still I don't really pay much after giving tmobile my old phone I think I pay like 20 something a month for 12 months and then trade for the newest one. So I pay between 200-300 dollars to use a phone that I put at least a minimum of an hour of usage a day, every day, for an entire year (usually 3-4hrs collectively throughout the day if you include using it for music and such). So even at 300 a year, for me, the iPhone is one of the best investments per usage that I make every year (of course I could still do almost if not everything on my 6S that i can on my 7 but I digress). Now paying 900 bucks a year for an iPad would be crazy. My iPad pro will be around at least 3-4 years before I even consider trading up.
That the functionality you mention is not the reason for an iPhone to be so expensive.
When you think of it like that it's not even a buck a day. Hell some people spend more than that on coffee
that is exactly the reason the iphone is expensive. iphone can do all those things and do it WELL. all other cheap phones can also do those things but they do poorly, as my analogy with Corola vs BMW.
It is not true that there are no good 300 euro phones, in the same way that a Corolla is a good car.
if it is as good, why is it so cheap?
the value of electronic is determined by market demand, consumer wants. if consumers want it badly, they will say "shut up and take my money". as in iphone case. if consumers do not like iphone that bad, apple can set any price they want but no one is going to buy it.
in other words, consumers decide how good a phone is. and they decide how much it is worth.
I did not say it is as good, but that it is good (enough). The price of iPhones is inflated, however.
that is your opinion but millions of other people are saying "shut up and take my money" and waiting for their 7+ by checking UPS daily.
even worse, check ebay for how much those Jet Blacks are worth. they are worth more than Apple retail price. that is market demand.
Got to say, I found a Huawei P9 on PAYG, so no contract, for £211 today thats about €242. Say what you like and I'm an iPhone guy, but thats a lot of phone for very little money. Bloody good deal I think.
I've had android ( to be specific nexus phones) for as long as I can remember, good prices and unlocked phones , no contracts whatsoever. I really liked them but I hate the direction google is moving now, it's not only that the pixel phones are very expensive, but google is fragmenting android even more, so I figured why not go the apple route this time, no update dramas, a working browser unlike the lag fest that chrome on android is and a really quick camera ... anyways I want to get an iphone 7 plus, but damn 900 euros? I don't want to let myself pay that amount of money for a phone.
How do you guys do it? Yes I know a lot of people buy them in contracts, but I pretty much get a new phone every year because I'm never satisfied ( yes how terrible of me I know) , so it doesnt make sense for me, specially seing how bad the iphone bezels are in need of trimming, besides contracts here in germany are awful, 68 euros a month plus an inicial payment of 290 euros? No thanks!
Is there people out there ( who are not rich ) who pay 900 euros upfront for a phone?
P.s. im a student earning 700 euros a month
As a student, I can see it not making sense, but I don't think you need to be rich. I would consider myself to be middle class, maybe edging towards upper middle class, and while I do consider iPhones to be very expensive, my 7 Plus was still less than 1% of my yearly salary. It's basically two or three days worth of work to pay for an iPhone, depending on the model. For comparison, my monthly rent is more than three times the cost of an iPhone. Now THAT is expensive! Got to get out of California!
A Toyota Corolla will be a lot more reliable than the Beemer and almost definitely have a nicer ride despite being cheaper. You also won't have the majority of motorists assuming you're a moron like BMW drivers are often considered for good reason lol.
I buy the iPhone because I like the product but I didn't think the iPhone 7 was worth the £200 price increase to be honest. I decided as a consumer it actually wasn't worth the money so bought a 6S instead.
A sensible person? Buying the product you like, suits you and that you consider to be value for money. Hmmmm, what's the catch
if you are rich and have to pick between corola and BMW, I know which car you will be driving.