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Well, your experience certainly sounds easier than I would have imagined it. I would expect individual experience to vary based on card issuer and their policies (both official and unofficial). However, it's still several steps more than I'd care to go to for the cost of Apple Care +, but certainly better than getting stuck with the bill.

Did the card issuer require you to send in the damaged watch? Or did Apple take it from you?

No, in order to get the $199 replacement price you have to swap it out at the Apple Store.

I've replaced two of my wife's iPhones under Amex's extended warranty. The OOW replacement cost was $199 plus tax, but Amex actually reimbursed us the full $299 plus tax we paid for the iPhones. So they made us whole plus some, and it was free to begin with.
 
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I take mine in the ocean all the time. Thinking back, I'm not sure what made me brave enough to try. I think it was all the YouTube videos
 
I've seen a lot of videos of people swimming with the AW and nothing happens. Anyone hear actually swim or shower with it? I basically need it to be splash proof with some light submerging.

mine shorted out after a few times swimming in a 5ft pool. this occurred after about 5-10 sessions free styling in the pool
 
Well, your experience certainly sounds easier than I would have imagined it. I would expect individual experience to vary based on card issuer and their policies (both official and unofficial). However, it's still several steps more than I'd care to go to for the cost of Apple Care +, but certainly better than getting stuck with the bill.

Did the card issuer require you to send in the damaged watch? Or did Apple take it from you?

No they didn't require to send in the damaged watch. I sent them my repair invoice from the Genius Bar showing I paid it. Initially after I dropped the watch off at the Apple Store they said it would be sent out for repairs which could take 5-7 days. 2 days later they called and said they have a replacement waiting for me at the store.
 
Here's my report: I've been wearing my Sport in the pool for over a month now, nearly every day, for between 45 minutes to an hour a day. So far, it's working just fine.
 
I probably totaled about 30+ workouts in the pool without ever having an issue and probably close to 200 showers without a problem. I stopped using in a pool after about 8 months just to be safe since I don't have Apple Care. I see that there is now a 100% waterproof band and screen protector from Catalyst for $60 and has a rating of about 4.8/5.0 from many buyers. I wouldn't buy one, but if I was always swimming and in the ocean, this is a nice alternative. I suspect that Watch 2 will be waterproof.
 
:) My apologies for the technicality. I know the term "waterproof" was discontinued for watches in the 1960's... I believe the Apple Watch 2 will be technically waterproof with a rating higher than the current rating. They should use gaskets on the face and screw down case backs and even gaskets on the crown if they still have it.

We don't need to get that technical as even the highest and most expensive watches still use the term waterproof in some documentation with the term "this rating is equivalent to waterproof". But I get it... :)
 
:) My apologies for the technicality. I know the term "waterproof" was discontinued for watches in the 1960's... I believe the Apple Watch 2 will be technically waterproof with a rating higher than the current rating. They should use gaskets on the face and screw down case backs and even gaskets on the crown if they still have it.

We don't need to get that technical as even the highest and most expensive watches still use the term waterproof in some documentation with the term "this rating is equivalent to waterproof". But I get it... :)

The fact that anyone paid over $10k, much less $17k, for a watch that has been glued together is appalling.

Perhaps that will be one of the distinctions between the gen 1 watch and the gen 2. It will be a lot easier to take it more seriously if it's assembled the way real watches are. But being able to sell the technology to entry level fence sitters for a much lower price will be invaluable toward expanding the market for the watch.
 
The fact that anyone paid over $10k, much less $17k, for a watch that has been glued together is appalling.

Perhaps that will be one of the distinctions between the gen 1 watch and the gen 2. It will be a lot easier to take it more seriously if it's assembled the way real watches are. But being able to sell the technology to entry level fence sitters for a much lower price will be invaluable toward expanding the market for the watch.
The :apple:Watch is never going to be an heirloom or anything close. The :apple:Watch 2 will probably be mass assembled and glued the same way it is now. Apple can tighten the tolerances just a tad and make it an ATM5 water rating easily. The :apple:Watch will always be a temporary disposable electronic gadget more akin to your TV, cell phone or radar detector than to a Rolex or Tag Heuer. For the most part the people who buy the Editions are wealthy enough that the $14,000 is actually less money relative to $400 spent for the average person. *So they are actually paying less of their wealth to own an Edition. I would not and do not worry about them.

*If Bill Gates had to stop earning money and start picking up $100 bills as fast as he could for a living for 8 hours a day 6 days a week he would lose money at one of the fastest rates in history.:eek:
 
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The fact that anyone paid over $10k, much less $17k, for a watch that has been glued together is appalling.

Perhaps that will be one of the distinctions between the gen 1 watch and the gen 2. It will be a lot easier to take it more seriously if it's assembled the way real watches are. But being able to sell the technology to entry level fence sitters for a much lower price will be invaluable toward expanding the market for the watch.

I would bet that it will be glued together just like the original AW. The glue is good technology but was not applied correctly in some case.
 
I normally take my watch off, but once a week or so I shower with it to clean the band and watch of oils and dirt. I don't swim with it, but maybe when the watch V3 comes out it might entice me to get one and wear it 24/7 (Except charging time) no matter where I am.
 
I still take mine off in the shower. The manual clearly states that steam and/or soaps can degrade the water resistance, but in truth it is out of habit. Sometimes I really wish I would have left it on so that I could change the song, but now I just leave my ip7 next to the shower door and change the song using that if I really want to. Next summer though I will be using the S2 SS in the pool nearly every day and I don't see how it can claim soap will degrade it but yet it eggs you on to take it to a pool full of chlorine...I'm no scientist though just a graduate student.
 
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