Do you think Apple is 'arrogant' enough to release a 3.5" new iPhone this year?

I am fine with the current screen size - means I can use it one handed with just my thumb which I cannot do on a 4"+

Think you are misguided with "everyone" comments. 95% purchasers of the iPhone wouldn't know what screen size it has. And don't care as long as it works and has good UI / HCI
 
saintforlife said:
Last I checked the iPhone screen size has been 3.5" since 2007....5 frickin years and 5 generations ago! All people are asking for is a 4" screen which would be ideal for most people and offer the best compromise between size and usability.
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That 4" would be ideal for most people and offer the best compromise between size and usability is an unfounded claim. It sure isn't true for me.
 
lordofthereef said:
Absolutely true. What a lot of people miss (and you might not be one of them) is that a poll on an enthusiast forum is hardly indication of what the entire userbase wants. It's probably a good indication of what the enthusiast userbase wants (makes sense, right), but said userbase is in the minority (this isn't to say that their opinion cannot gel with the majority), simply based on numbers.
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That is why I wish that Apple would keep the same size phone but slightly increase the screen size by using the real estate that is already there. If I want a honker screen, I just use my Samsung GS2
 
lordofthereef said:
What do you base this statement on? Forums like these? Because forums like these are where the power users and enthusiasts reside. I would say that sales numbers don't indicate, at all, that people are wanting a bigger screen. That said, I am all about a bigger screen, but I don't think there is any tangible evidence, at least none that has been presented to me, that would suggest that the majority of iPhone users demand a larger screen.
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Agreed. I'd say there are more enthusiasts and power users here than average consumers.
 
Its funny how fanboys yell as hard as they can "we want 3.5" screen" then apple releases 4" or higher and every fanboy does a total reverse and starts yelling "yes 4" is awesome". Happens all the time
 
I don't want a larger phone, I want something that fits easily in my pocket. If the phone gets any larger then I am not interested.
 
kalex said:
Its funny how fanboys yell as hard as they can "we want 3.5" screen" then apple releases 4" or higher and every fanboy does a total reverse and starts yelling "yes 4" is awesome". Happens all the time
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Hmmm when did apple release a 4" phone?
 
chambone said:
That 4" would be ideal for most people and offer the best compromise between size and usability is an unfounded claim. It sure isn't true for me.
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I've used my wife's Samsung Captivate and it has a 4" screen which I think is the perfect size. Not too big. Not too small. Just right.
 
kalex said:
Its funny how fanboys yell as hard as they can "we want 3.5" screen" then apple releases 4" or higher and every fanboy does a total reverse and starts yelling "yes 4" is awesome". Happens all the time
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We haven't seen a 4" iPhone yet, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if that happens. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if they made a drastic jump in size (like Note status) and some people had that same reaction. I would also say that the same reaction happens for A LOT of things, just not electronics. You see it in politics a lot.

In any case, I really do not care at all about the screen size, but it's really because of the way I use my phone. I don't need the big size for 95% of the things I do, so I don't care. If there were any new features in future iOS updates that were significantly better on a larger phone (features that I would actually benefit from), then I could honestly say that I would want a bigger phone. As it is now, that is not the case.
 
saintforlife said:
I know Apple doesn't believe in market research or what people on general think what their products need to be like. But I think the overwhelming majority of iPhone users want a bigger screen for the next iPhone. Now Apple would be really arrogant in ignoring all these people and to continue thinking they know what is best for their users in terms of how big a phone needs to be. If they release another 3.5 incher, it could be their first misstep in a long time which could even lead to them losing some of their market share to their competitors. I sincerely hope they are humble enough to listen to their customers who actually buy their products and make them the success they are.
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They ARE listening to their customers who actually buy their products... And those customers are saying that screen size is acceptable.

What you call arrogance is actually them standing firm on a vision. Time and time again they stood alone against the naysayers...only to prove that they made the right decisions. When the iPad was initially announced Apple was roundly and soundly ridiculed. It is clear who's position was the correct one.

They don't produce products that are perfect for everyone . If the iPhone is not perfect for you then find a competitive product that suits your needs better.
 
Do you think some MacRumors users are 'arrogant' enough to demand that Apple make a phone based solely on their own personal opinions?

YES! :cool:
 
saintforlife said:
I've used my wife's Samsung Captivate and it has a 4" screen which I think is the perfect size. Not too big. Not too small. Just right.
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I don't doubt for a second that it's perfect for you, but that's not the same as 4" being ideal for most people, like you claimed.
 
saintforlife said:
I've used my wife's Samsung Captivate and it has a 4" screen which I think is the perfect size. Not too big. Not too small. Just right.
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The real question is:

Do you think saintforlife is 'arrogant' enough to make a thread assuming what he thinks is the perfect size iPhone is the perfect size for EVERYONE?

I think we have our answer :rolleyes:
 
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I really dont care about a phone that doesn't exists yet. Im happy with my 4S and I dont have the need of a bigger screen. When that happens I'll just buy a Galaxy Note
 
From 2010 to 2011, sales of 4" + screens jumped from nothing to almost 1/4 of the smartphone market. I bet it's an even higher portion now.

As for what "most normal" people want:

"Strategy Analytics has identified that smartphone owners want devices that have larger displays.

Almost 90% of existing smartphone owners chose a prototype smartphone with a display larger than their current device as their most preferred size. The sweet spot for these users is 4.0-inches to 4.5-inches, driven by increased web browsing and multimedia experiences.

As manufacturers drive smartphones with larger displays onto the market, they need to ensure that these devices remain thin, ‘pocketable’ or ‘pursable’ and have a high-resolution display to ensure high adoption."

- SA report, Mar 12, 2012
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I have great news for all that don't want a bigger screen. YOU GOT ONE NOW!!! You don't have to wait for the new iPhone!!! You have everything you need. You can look forward to a new IOS for added features, but if you are happy, well then the 4s is the phone for your future.

Now get out of the way for those who want a different phone that has a bigger screen with greater purposes. If not a bigger screen, what then? A new faster chip? better camera? BORING! Camera works great and processor works flawless. Haven't overloaded phone yet.

Sad to say, I will depart with mine. This is my last wait for this upgrade. Last one I wasn't up on the contract...Mine updates in November and if it's another insulting update like notification and a camera upgrade.. I am out. Things are moving fast and the decision to stay with iPhone isn't like it was a few years ago. Those telling people on this board to go to Android and new phones might not be bad advice anymore. Before it was a good response because Android use to be real weak compared. Now it is in some ways just as good and better in other areas.

Still I want my iPhone, but I am not that committed to anything in life. No brand!
 
kdarling said:
From 2010 to 2011, sales of 4" + screens jumped from nothing to almost 1/4 of the smartphone market. I bet it's an even higher portion now.

As for what "most normal" people want:
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Strategy Analytics hasn't identified what "most normal" people want. They have identified what the people they surveyed want. And that does mean exactly jack as long as factors such as sample size, demographics, age etc remain a mystery.

And you're not linking to a report, you're linking to a report purchasing page.
 
I know 3 people who were planning on getting an iPhone, but then ended up getting an Android phone because the salesperson pointed out that they have larger screens. Two of these people still haven't figured out how to make calls with their phones (they bought them in December), so I think they made a poor decision (though maybe they wouldn't have been able to figure out an iPhone either).

Personally, bigger screen size isn't going to make a difference in my purchases (3.5" is fine and I can do everything one-handed, even two finger zoom, etc), I'm more concerned with software. Android's lack of low-latency audio (and issues with UI latency, even in ICS) make it a non-starter as my main device (though I've always wanted one as secondary device to play around with; I'd likely buy a 6"-7" Nexus tablet if they existed and were $250 or less).
 
saintforlife said:
Almost all polls on this forum indicate people want a larger phone. A majority of the people and friends that I've spoken to want a larger screen. I know it is all anecdotal, but that doesn't make it not true. It is also true that once people switch to larger screens, they can never go back even of it means putting up with Android and its less than stellar user experience.
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Plenty of examples of people going to iOS from Android if you care to look. They get used to a smaller screen and don't see it as the end of civilisation. The last poll I saw on Macrumors today had a huge majority in favour of keeping screen as it is. Even if it didn't, it would be a self selecting sample of users, many of whom are obsessed by their phones. Most people - the millions still buying the 3GS, 4 & 4S - seem more than happy with the screen size.

In the very unlikely event that Apple decide to increase the screen size in the next version, I will be happy to buy it as long as its not too much bigger. If it is much bigger, I'll go for the 4S.

I sincerely hope Apple release the new phone soon. Another 6 months of this pointless debate will drive me away from these forums.

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rockinred said:
I have great news for all that don't want a bigger screen. YOU GOT ONE NOW!!! You don't have to wait for the new iPhone!!! You have everything you need. You can look forward to a new IOS for added features, but if you are happy, well then the 4s is the phone for your future.

Now get out of the way for those who want a different phone that has a bigger screen with greater purposes. If not a bigger screen, what then? A new faster chip? better camera? BORING! Camera works great and processor works flawless. Haven't overloaded phone yet.

Sad to say, I will depart with mine. This is my last wait for this upgrade. Last one I wasn't up on the contract...Mine updates in November and if it's another insulting update like notification and a camera upgrade.. I am out. Things are moving fast and the decision to stay with iPhone isn't like it was a few years ago. Those telling people on this board to go to Android and new phones might not be bad advice anymore. Before it was a good response because Android use to be real weak compared. Now it is in some ways just as good and better in other areas.

Still I want my iPhone, but I am not that committed to anything in life. No brand!
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Pleased to hear that you're able to decide what is best for you. Truly, I hope that everyone who does want a bigger phone goes and buys one. If screen size is that important to you, then the iPhone clearly isn't for you.
 
I really wonder what the average hand size is measured from middle finger to the base of the palm. I never thought I had big hands, but after observing other people I do. Hell I was able to operate the galaxy note with one hand (this is what made me confirm that I had large hands) with minimal shifting around in my palm.

I find the iPhone terribly uncomfortable to hold as it is just to damn small.

I don't understand why people are opposed to TWO devices? There is definitely a great divide going on right about screen size with it being 50/50 going either way.

What I don't like is being pigeon holed into a single device that barely fits my needs but I'm already heavily invested in the apple ecosystem do I have no choice but to stick with the iPhone. I'm sure many users can relate to this.
 
chambone said:
That 4" would be ideal for most people and offer the best compromise between size and usability is an unfounded claim. It sure isn't true for me.
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Why would it bother you? You can get a 4" screen onto the 4/4s form factor with a change of aspect ratio so nothing would change besides the screen. I'm just curious why someone would be against this idea.
 
I hope the screen size does not change. I like my iPhone to fit in my pocket.

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Sdahe said:
I really dont care about a phone that doesn't exists yet. Im happy with my 4S and I dont have the need of a bigger screen. When that happens I'll just buy a Galaxy Note
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And a dump truck to haul the thing around with.
 
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