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Here’s a video comparing the iPhone 12 5.4 vs the iPhone SE 2020. Looks like it’s going to be slightly larger in length and width than the SE 2020.

Not much in length and about .25” wider than the SE 2020


206 grams?

The 11 pro is 188 grams, I think the 5,4 would weight less
 
(Accepting for the moment that I can't afford a new phone, I'm unemployed, and that job losses owing to coronavirus means that my particular job market is very much a buyer's market...)

I'd give the 5.4 version a serious look. It's not much larger than my current SEv1 so it would still have 'pocketability' for me (since 1997 I've gone Nokia 8110, Nokia 6310i (2002), Nokia N95 (1997), iPhone 5S (2016) and now iPhone SE (2019) - I don't change often). If it has the same design philosophy as the iPhones 4/5 I think it would look great. I'm approaching my mid-50s, but the screen size doesn't bother me - it's a phone, if I want to read anything I'll use my iPad Air 3 ;)

If I could turn off the 5G (on the basis of it being a battery hog and there being not much call for it in the places I visit) even better.
 
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(Accepting for the moment that I can't afford a new phone, I'm unemployed, and that job losses owing to coronavirus means that my particular job market is very much a buyer's market...)

I'd give the 5.4 version a serious look. It's not much larger than my current SEv1 so it would still have 'pocketability' for me (since 1997 I've gone Nokia 8110, Nokia 6310i (2002), Nokia N95 (1997), iPhone 5S (2016) and now iPhone SE (2019) - I don't change often). If it has the same design philosophy as the iPhones 4/5 I think it would look great. I'm approaching my mid-50s, but the screen size doesn't bother me - it's a phone, if I want to read anything I'll use my iPad Air 3 ;)

If I could turn off the 5G (on the basis of it being a battery hog and there being not much call for it in the places I visit) even better.

I use my iPhone SE 2020 a lot. I have a lot of down time at work(work truck)and watch lots of YouTube videos. I don’t have a problem watch videos on the SE 2020. Probably cause I’m so used to it.

I have an iPad too and just started bringing it to work. Since I’ve been bringing to work I’m starting to like it. I can lean it and watch on a much larger screen.

When I’m at home I still prefer my iPhone when I’m on the couch or in bed because it’s more comfortable.
 
As someone else sticking with an original SE, this is the first phone I’ve been the least bit interested in upgrading to.

Will have to first see how it is for one-handed use in my small hands, tho. If it’s enough larger to be impossible to type one handed without risk of dropping and thus requires two handed use anyway, I might as well Get something larger.

The only other benefit of a small phone is that it has an outside chance of fitting in the pockets of women’s clothing.
 
When my original SE had to be replaced I went for an iPhone 7, the smallest and cheapest device that was current at the time. I went for the cheapest to see how I got on with the bigger size. I find it okay but both my wife and daughter who have an original SE hate using my phone as it’s too big for their hands.

Without a smaller iPhone I think it would have been really hard for them to stay with Apple. It looks like it would be smaller but with a bigger screen than my 7, so it will probably be my choice next time too.
 
I "downgraded" my 8 Plus to an 8 and I've been really happy with the smaller form factor. Ideally I'd use a phone the size of the original SE (or even 3GS) so I for one am really glad if this rumor ends up being true and there's going to be an 5.4" iphone 12 that's smaller physically than the iPhone 8. I have small hands and like to be able to reach around the screen with just my thumb. Couldn't do that with the 8 Plus or the other bigger phones.
 
I don’t get what age has to do with it. I am 70 years old and i wear glasses för almost 60 years. What you use your phone for should be the issue here, if you cannot read the screen.
I use my phone for calls, an occasional message, the camera, but mostly like an iPod for music and audiobooks. I don’t surf and I don’t email. Such things i do on my iPads. So even a smaller phone could do for me.
 
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I have no interest in a 5.4 inch iPhone. I have one now and I don't like it. 6.1 inch is perfect, I can't wait for it to come out!
 
Anyone with small to normal sized hands, myself included, stands to benefit ergonomically. When I take my old iPod touch out of storage I find myself missing the lightness and easy grip. The reduction in screen size is a trade-off, but not much of one for people like me with an iPad never far out of reach anyway.
 
It's great to have options, but I only want the big screens. I enjoy having more text, bigger photos and videos, seeing more of a webpage, etc. I still have an old 5S and an iPhone 7 lying around, and I have no desire to go back to that experience. I'm glad that those who want a smaller iPhone might have that option.
 
With the reduction on bezel sizes rumoured to be coming in iPhone 12, this 5.4 inch could end up being the same total physical size as the 1st generation iPhone SE. Obviously it won't have the latest tech in it, like the larger models will but it'll be mostly up to date (unlike the SE series). For many that is a trade off that they are willing to take.
On the other hand you have people who would easily pre-order a new modern phone sized iPhone if they start existing again. These people have phone size as their #1 priority. I am one of these people. For the record, my daily driver is a 1st generation SE.

Rene Ritchie has a decent video up on the subject also. He asks the question - Buy a 2nd generation SE now or wait for a phone sized iPhone 12, assuming Apple is actually releasing them at all. There's a lot more than just size to consider. However, important as that is, many phone sized iPhone users mostly just want a phone sized iPhone. That's it really. As long as it gets the job done of being a phone with some small computing (like emails and on the go content consumption), that's all these people want.
For these people it'll mostly come down to the price as well as how new it is. Not for any specific features, but the newer iPhones last longer longer before they stop getting supported on new iOS versions. Yes these phone sized iPhones are cheaper, they are still not a cheap phone. People want to keep them for as long as possible.

So what do you think about the rumoured 5.4 inch iPhone 12? Does it interest you?
Wow, "phone sized" has such a condescending ring. Are we going to pull out the "lolz, making calls on a tablet" jokes from ca. 2012 again?

As for the 5.4", sure that interests me. I'd love to have that as an on-the-move phone and the 6.7" for slightly more stationary moments when the bigger-yet-not-as-big-as-my-iPad screen is more desirable.
 
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Wow, "phone sized" has such a condescending ring. Are we going to pull out the "lolz, making calls on a tablet" jokes from ca. 2012 again?

As for the 5.4", sure that interests me. I'd love to have that as an on-the-move phone and the 6.7" for slightly more stationary moments when the bigger-yet-not-as-big-as-my-iPad screen is more desirable.

Seems like most people here have desk jobs and / or aren’t on the move as part of their job. If I had a desk job or my job wasn’t on the move I would defiantly own a iPhone 11 Pro.

However when we were vacationing in France early this year I wouldn’t have liked the 11 Pro because of it lacking being comfortably pocketable.

So for me the chassis of the SE 2020 is a good cross between being comfortably pocketable and functional.
 
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Seems like most people here have desk jobs and / or aren’t on the move as part of their job. If I had a desk job or my job wasn’t on the move I would defiantly own a iPhone 11 Pro.

However when we were vacationing in France early this year I wouldn’t have liked the 11 Pro because of it lacking being comfortably pocketable.

So for me the chassis of the SE 2020 is a good combo.
The 11 Pro is mostly pocketable enough for me, even in the summer when I'm on the move and only have jeans pockets to keep it in. I am really missing a larger phone though, lately I was binging series in bed without contacts on and the iPad is too big for those moments + OLED is so superior in the dark - but Max size phone + 11 Pro size doesn't make sense, that's where I'd like to maximise the big size phone and minimise the small size one.
 
Another reason why I would switch from XR to 5.4

Swiping back from the left (with my right thumb) is do-able, but not comfortable after 4 or 5 times. I have big hands! I’m 1.95 meters (6’5). With the 5.4 that will be more comfortable.
 
I recently switched to the current iPhone SE after more than 6 1/2 years with an iPhone 5s (a gimpy Lightning port finally prodded me to consider upgrading). For me, the SE is already a notable tradeoff if we're talking about easy pocketability and one-handed operation. It's still possible to pocket the phone in my jeans and use it with one hand, but not as comfortable to use and wear as the 5s was. The larger screen has its benefits, but other things go by the wayside in the process.

The rumored 5.4" iPhone 12 supposedly has a smaller body than the current iPhone SE. That would make it an intriguing option if I decide to pass my SE over to my wife (who has an iPhone 7). Remains to be seen whether the smaller body would make one-handed operation easier (or at least comparable) despite the larger screen area. Also, given how I mount my phone in the car and now mask up in public places, I'm also not sure if I want to trade out Touch ID for Face ID either.

If the current iPhone SE wasn't available at all, I would be all over the 5.4" iPhone 12. The entire iPhone 11 lineup has no appeal to me simply because they're all too big to suit my preferences. I'd heard the rumors about the 5.4" iPhone 12. But, given that the iPhone SE came out right at the time that I decided to upgrade, I wasn't going to wait and see if Apple finally went back to a sensibly sized flagship phone.
 
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Currently rocking (or not) a first-generation SE. And I have another one sitting on the shelf in case this one meets destiny. I got it as future-proofing, the very day the first-gen SE was discontinued, during that ugly period only a few years go when it seemed like Apple had made a list of every feature people actually liked in their product and started eliminating them one by one. ("A phone you can actually put into and take out of your pocket and which isn't slipperier to hold than a wet bar of soap? Out it goes! If only there were a way to put a butterfly keyboard and TouchBar on this baby!")

So I'll *look* at a new phone-sized phone, even if it might be at least one actual phone away my current one.
 
Currently rocking (or not) a first-generation SE. And I have another one sitting on the shelf in case this one meets destiny. I got it as future-proofing, the very day the first-gen SE was discontinued, during that ugly period only a few years go when it seemed like Apple had made a list of every feature people actually liked in their product and started eliminating them one by one. ("A phone you can actually put into and take out of your pocket and which isn't slipperier to hold than a wet bar of soap? Out it goes! If only there were a way to put a butterfly keyboard and TouchBar on this baby!")

So I'll *look* at a new phone-sized phone, even if it might be at least one actual phone away my current one.

Great post. This is the way I feel. A phone that you can actually put in and take out of your pocket with ease.

Now I know many will say that the 11 Pro is like that. IMO I think people who think like that have forced themselves into that thinking. Most people I talk too admit that the 11 Pro isn’t as pocketable as the older models but still somewhat pocketable.
 
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I'm happy with my 11 but I will definitely check all of the 12 series out.

It's great to see they are giving more options.
 
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