Does Anyone Else Think the New Apple TV will Be HUGE?

[cynics]

gonna bomb worse than the apple watch. a lot worse. i can't see this having mass market appeal.

tv is for old people and old ppl are fine with current tv. techy ppl don't sit in front of the tv anymore.

If by "techy people" you are referring to children (aside from console gaming) and nerds (not saying that in an offensive way) I tend to agree with you.

However television is still the central hub of entertain in a US home. More then ever houses plans are being designed around entertain systems that revolve around some form of television set. Before you'd stick a television into a living room, now we are building the living rooms around the television. Them being built into the wall, wiring for ethernet and surround sound with speakers integrated into the walls, subs properly placed behind the seating, etc etc. It isn't even an addition anymore its a standard feature.

And the Apple Watch has FAR from bomb, care to elaborate a little more on that? Or like so many other uninformed people since it does have the impact the iPhone has its a flop right? If that is your definition of bomb then yes, the AppleTV will bomb very hard since set top boxes are such an insignificant part of the market.

 

[cycledance]

If by "techy people" you are referring to children (aside from console gaming) and nerds (not saying that in an offensive way) I tend to agree with you.

However television is still the central hub of entertain in a US home. More then ever houses plans are being designed around entertain systems that revolve around some form of television set. Before you'd stick a television into a living room, now we are building the living rooms around the television. Them being built into the wall, wiring for ethernet and surround sound with speakers integrated into the walls, subs properly placed behind the seating, etc etc. It isn't even an addition anymore its a standard feature.

And the Apple Watch has FAR from bomb, care to elaborate a little more on that? Or like so many other uninformed people since it does have the impact the iPhone has its a flop right? If that is your definition of bomb then yes, the AppleTV will bomb very hard since set top boxes are such an insignificant part of the market.

i shouldn´t have said the watch bombed. it was a bit of a letdown tho in sales and consumer response.
also the way it's marketed and sold by apple is horrible imo. too luxurious and expensive and elite.

i didn't know there was a central hub in homes anymore. either way i just don't see how LOTS of people will buy the new apple tv.

i find it extremely arrogant of tim cook to call it the future of tv. to me this is just another push to sell people another device that enables micro transactions. get everyone to spend a couple bucks every day on tv shows and movies and mediocre games. i don´t have netflix but i think they have a better solution.

 

[cynics]

i shouldn´t have said the watch bombed. it was a bit of a letdown tho in sales and consumer response.
also the way it's marketed and sold by apple is horrible imo. too luxurious and expensive and elite.

i didn't know there was a central hub in homes anymore. either way i just don't see how LOTS of people will buy the new apple tv.

i find it extremely arrogant of tim cook to call it the future of tv. to me this is just another push to sell people another device that enables micro transactions. get everyone to spend a couple bucks every day on tv shows and movies and mediocre games. i don´t have netflix but i think they have a better solution.

I disagree. I actually agree with him 100%. I (like you) just don't like their idea of "the future of TV".

On the flip side, not much is really changing. We can still use the new ATV just like the old one. And as far as micro transactions go, that is the way it is now if you are renting and buying content from iTunes (I don't). This will just add something else on that you can buy (apps).

I think like the iPhone the app store on the ATV will push it to be a more successful product then previous generations.

 

[thepixelpusher]

i shouldn´t have said the watch bombed. it was a bit of a letdown tho in sales and consumer response.
also the way it's marketed and sold by apple is horrible imo. too luxurious and expensive and elite.

i didn't know there was a central hub in homes anymore. either way i just don't see how LOTS of people will buy the new apple tv.

i find it extremely arrogant of tim cook to call it the future of tv. to me this is just another push to sell people another device that enables micro transactions. get everyone to spend a couple bucks every day on tv shows and movies and mediocre games. i don´t have netflix but i think they have a better solution.

Not arrogant to say future of TV. He's not saying the future of all viewing habits, just the TV. I watch most video on my iPad, but there are times where I don't want to hold things to watch videos or sometimes I want to play games on a larger screen with a bluetooth controller on my Apple TV via Airplay from my iPad.

Apple has a more rounded and interconnected ecosystem with the tablets, smartphones, TV box and computer all talking to each other. All the other companies playing in this market are trying to be as successful as Apple in having each device be interconnected with each other so effortlessly as Apple does it.

Micropayments? There is an insane amount of free stuff or low cost items through my Apple devices to watch or to game with. You're right, micro meaning "small" payments. But not the screw job "macro" payments I had to pay when I had cable. I dropped cable 4 years back and my Apple devices made it easier to save big money and still see every single thing I wanted.

Apple is the future of work and play…and I'm living it.

 

[spacemnspiff]

I think this is interesting. A good fundamental platform is a good plate to start.

http://www.wired.com/2015/09/apple-tv-web/

 

[Snoopy4]

i shouldn´t have said the watch bombed. it was a bit of a letdown tho in sales and consumer response.
also the way it's marketed and sold by apple is horrible imo. too luxurious and expensive and elite.

i didn't know there was a central hub in homes anymore. either way i just don't see how LOTS of people will buy the new apple tv.

i find it extremely arrogant of tim cook to call it the future of tv. to me this is just another push to sell people another device that enables micro transactions. get everyone to spend a couple bucks every day on tv shows and movies and mediocre games. i don´t have netflix but i think they have a better solution.

TV may not be the central hub, but size matters going forward and bigger will be better. Anything attached to said TV will need to support this future.

TV is for old people and Techies aren't sitting in front of TVs anymore? Seriously? You going with that?

Not sure if serious.

 

[cycledance]

TV may not be the central hub, but size matters going forward and bigger will be better. Anything attached to said TV will need to support this future.

TV is for old people and Techies aren't sitting in front of TVs anymore? Seriously? You going with that?

Not sure if serious.

yea. how old are you?

i don´t think young people buy big tvs at all.

 

[Snoopy4]

Based on your response I think people should ask how old you are.

And I'm not old.

 

[thepixelpusher]

I still have friends and family fixated on buying big TV's and most of them are in their 30's to 40's. Myself, I use my iPad Air 2 more to watch TV and VOD. At the resolution and how much it fills my field of vision, it's comparable to watching at least a 60 inch TV from about 5 feet away.

I think this is interesting. A good fundamental platform is a good plate to start.

http://www.wired.com/2015/09/apple-tv-web/

I'm not sure if Apple has the web stripped out of Apple TV forever, or that they need to work on implementation of it in the new TVOS and it isn't ready. I'm guessing they'll add it back in.

 

[thepixelpusher]

"Cable companies given walking papers at intensifying pace"
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/19/tv-w...eir-walking-papers-at-intensifying-pace-.html

So the answer to this threads title; "Does Anyone Else Think the New Apple TV will Be HUGE?" is YES!
To the new cord cutters I say, welcome to the club. I've been a member for 4 years. And I haven't missed any shows. In fact I now see them commercial free at less cost per month total than when I had cable.

 

[laurim]

I stream nearly every music I hear at home from my iPhone to my Apple TV and so to my receiver. I don't want to have the TV running when it's not necessary.
Off course, modern receivers have HDMI Input for audio, but I don't want to buy a new receiver for 1000€ or so just because I upgraded my Apple TV.
Maybe a HDMI to SPDFI Converter / Splitter will do the job ...

One can buy an Onkyo 3D capable home theater receiver with FOUR hdmi inputs AND 5.1 speakers for $400 on Amazon. And even more basic systems for less. There's a Sony 4k 5.2 receiver with 4 hdmi inputs for $198. Home theater systems aren't that expensive. I realize your money situation may be dire but most people can afford buying a receiver with hdmi input.

 

[Snoopy4]

"Cable companies given walking papers at intensifying pace"
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/19/tv-w...eir-walking-papers-at-intensifying-pace-.html

So the answer to this threads title; "Does Anyone Else Think the New Apple TV will Be HUGE?" is YES!
To the new cord cutters I say, welcome to the club. I've been a member for 4 years. And I haven't missed any shows. In fact I now see them commercial free at less cost per month total than when I had cable.

Biggest problem is content. We use Netflix, but half the time it's for TV reruns. Live sports are also an issue so it's not quite practica for our needs. A lot of the new movies out just aren't there. They'll get a boost from the Disney deal, but man. Sometimes it's pretty slim pickings.

While it's on the rise, it's still less than 5%. People still don't have the bandwidth either and data caps coupled with some telcos and cableco's not upgrading infrastructure is a hinderance. I get that the infrastructure is expensive but AT&T and Verizon would start to crush cable co's by dumping bandwidth caps. This would pretty much free everyone from the wire. We burn enough data some months streaming that if we went to LTE it would cost us $500 a month and that just nuts.

 

[9512tacoma]

Yes apps are changing the way we watch tv. It will sell like hot cakes.

 

[cycledance]

Yes apps are changing the way we watch tv. It will sell like hot cakes.

sarcasm? i can't tell over the internet...

 

[thepixelpusher]

Biggest problem is content. We use Netflix, but half the time it's for TV reruns. Live sports are also an issue so it's not quite practica for our needs. A lot of the new movies out just aren't there. They'll get a boost from the Disney deal, but man. Sometimes it's pretty slim pickings.

While it's on the rise, it's still less than 5%. People still don't have the bandwidth either and data caps coupled with some telcos and cableco's not upgrading infrastructure is a hinderance. I get that the infrastructure is expensive but AT&T and Verizon would start to crush cable co's by dumping bandwidth caps. This would pretty much free everyone from the wire. We burn enough data some months streaming that if we went to LTE it would cost us $500 a month and that just nuts.

I agree that the live sports is an issue for all the set top smart boxes. I don't watch sports, but I thought that apps were added for NFL, etc. I know that probably isn't all the sports access on cable. Until sports totally transitions to set top smart boxes a segment of people will not fully transition.

I'm on AT&T and I've never run into data caps on our home internet service. And my wife and kids are running Netflix and other video services near constantly during the day. I can't comment on other competing services. While I have Netflix, I do buy movie from iTunes for the stuff I want to keep or I rent on iTunes the stuff that doesn't make it to Netflix. Still way cheaper than cable service and I keep the stuff I buy. Other than the sports thing, I got all the content easily covered by Apple iTunes, Netflix and Hulu Plus for far less than cable. Maybe you should check out AT&T for internet service.

 

[newdeal]

I don't think that it will be huge only because it doesn't really do anything new. Universal search is cool but not exactly a sexy feature

 

[Snoopy4]

I agree that the live sports is an issue for all the set top smart boxes. I don't watch sports, but I thought that apps were added for NFL, etc. I know that probably isn't all the sports access on cable. Until sports totally transitions to set top smart boxes a segment of people will not fully transition.

I'm on AT&T and I've never run into data caps on our home internet service. And my wife and kids are running Netflix and other video services near constantly during the day. I can't comment on other competing services. While I have Netflix, I do buy movie from iTunes for the stuff I want to keep or I rent on iTunes the stuff that doesn't make it to Netflix. Still way cheaper than cable service and I keep the stuff I buy. Other than the sports thing, I got all the content easily covered by Apple iTunes, Netflix and Hulu Plus for far less than cable. Maybe you should check out AT&T for internet service.

We have AT&T at the house. It the wireless bandwidth caps that they need to dump. They're crazy.

 

[pilotpat]

I hate to be a Debbie downer but I didn't see an icon for connecting your iTunes library on local network. I'm a little freaked out that they might only allow the real iTunes Store stuff and not anything on local network. Anyone see any images that look like the Computers icon on the older apple TV?

It's there, just not shown on the promo and demo stuff. I have the dev unit and have used it to stream video from my mac mini.