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Does anyone have a perfect screen?
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Does anyone reading this thread believe you stopped at 50%?
You asked for guidance. I gave it. If you only want to read confirmation of what you already believe then don't ask in a public forum. You're welcome.
You asked for guidance. I gave it. If you only want to read confirmation of what you already believe then don't ask in a public forum. You're welcome.
Does anyone reading this thread believe you stopped at 50%?
You asked for guidance. I gave it. If you only want to read confirmation of what you already believe then don't ask in a public forum. You're welcome.
The picture was taken at 50%.
I use the iPad at 50%. Anything over that for extended periods of time hurt my eyes.
Imdont have a problem with your opinion. I just have a problem with how you're saying it. I don't think that heavy-handedness is necessary.
Believe it or not, I haven't decided yet. That's why I'm asking for GUIDANCE. Not criticism.
Do you have some sort of disability that keeps you from understanding other people or making sense?
Please explain how backlight bleeding and stuck/dead pixels are normal. You keep saying people are looking for problems that aren't there, but please tell me how you can look at the pictures in the original post and say that's normal.
You're grasping at straws just to make your very opinionated point.
Also, please explain how someone can turn the brightness up to a level that "no one would do under even extreme conditions?" You're really just making things up now.
Let's be clear that you aren't in any way calling anyone out on anything. You're simply making yourself look stupid. You're contributing nothing to this thread other than criticism. To me, and many others, that's trolling.
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Took mine into the dark and couldn't find anything like that. I also run at @ 50% brightness. My screen is beautiful and has no bad pixels, yellow light..etc.
You need to take that back...
Manufacturing Defect
Backlight bleeding at any rate is a manufacturing defect. If I was paying 499 for the 16gb wifi model it would be a little broader range for this defect, however when you are using a device such as the 64gb wif+3g, you have paid 829 for a device that is using its screen as the "main attraction." Apple should be willing to replace these that customers are unhappy with because Fanboys, the ones that really care, are the ones who will drive the most personal selling outside of an apple store.
Apple has no reason to not replace a defective product that makes a good customer unhappy and I think he as well as I would agree that with minimal bleed it wouldn't be an issue, for me the major bleed was in the upper-right hand corner which in a room with about 50% ambient light is gray instead of black, because of poor manufacturing. If the issue was not visible in a situation where I most often use the device I could handle it, but thinking about the large margin that apple is raking in on these things, means that they have built in room for replacing defective products.
Talking to the proper product engineer on the phone I was successful in having the product replacement request sent. The box should arrive at apple today, and the backlighting issue is almost identical. Yet another sign of defect is that not everyone has the issue, but two products on these forums have an almost identical pattern. To discount backlight bleed to this extent is silly, frankly I would much rather have 1-2 dead pixels than what looks to be a screen full of "hot spots" as on friend described it. The issue really jumps out at the user, which is the reason I opted to have mine replaced.
Long story short, apple has a lot of dedicated customers who buy from apple because they have solid customer support and produce what we have evaluated as quality products. As customers have the right to be upset when apple does not deliver on one of those expectations, but in this case (not mine) when both of these expectations are left unmet we as customers have the right to be upset with the result.
My suggestion would be to call and tell them that you were unhappy with the service. One time filling out the customer-service survey, they send it to your email address after a call, with low numbers because I was unhappy with the service resulted in an apologetic call from apple willing to do almost anything to make sure I was happy with the service. Most customer service agents and product engineers are nice, some have a stick up their ass, but its a tough job, so give it another shot on the phone and tell them that you are not feeling comfortable with the situation -- they may just listen.
Backlight bleeding at any rate is a manufacturing defect. If I was paying 499 for the 16gb wifi model it would be a little broader range for this defect, however when you are using a device such as the 64gb wif+3g, you have paid 829 for a device that is using its screen as the "main attraction." Apple should be willing to replace these that customers are unhappy with because Fanboys, the ones that really care, are the ones who will drive the most personal selling outside of an apple store.
Apple has no reason to not replace a defective product that makes a good customer unhappy and I think he as well as I would agree that with minimal bleed it wouldn't be an issue, for me the major bleed was in the upper-right hand corner which in a room with about 50% ambient light is gray instead of black, because of poor manufacturing. If the issue was not visible in a situation where I most often use the device I could handle it, but thinking about the large margin that apple is raking in on these things, means that they have built in room for replacing defective products.
Talking to the proper product engineer on the phone I was successful in having the product replacement request sent. The box should arrive at apple today, and the backlighting issue is almost identical. Yet another sign of defect is that not everyone has the issue, but two products on these forums have an almost identical pattern. To discount backlight bleed to this extent is silly, frankly I would much rather have 1-2 dead pixels than what looks to be a screen full of "hot spots" as on friend described it. The issue really jumps out at the user, which is the reason I opted to have mine replaced.
Long story short, apple has a lot of dedicated customers who buy from apple because they have solid customer support and produce what we have evaluated as quality products. As customers have the right to be upset when apple does not deliver on one of those expectations, but in this case (not mine) when both of these expectations are left unmet we as customers have the right to be upset with the result.
My suggestion would be to call and tell them that you were unhappy with the service. One time filling out the customer-service survey, they send it to your email address after a call, with low numbers because I was unhappy with the service resulted in an apologetic call from apple willing to do almost anything to make sure I was happy with the service. Most customer service agents and product engineers are nice, some have a stick up their ass, but its a tough job, so give it another shot on the phone and tell them that you are not feeling comfortable with the situation -- they may just listen.
My screen is near perfect with no dead pixels or yellowing. I can find a teeny weeny bit of bleed if I take it into a perfectly dark room.
There shouldn't be anything wrong with something you pay good money for. It's a basic fundamental of a consumer purchase. Was there anything wrong with the $600 Apple received from me in exchange for an iPad? Was it missing, say, $100? No. We should expect nothing less from them in return. Don't be a consumer pushover. It perpetuates bad business.
Well, I agree and disagree. In the world of LCDs, defects are still expected although they have reduced greatly over the last few years.
If a screen has one dead of stuck pixel, I don't think people should get upset and return it. Over time, these practices will only cause prices to increase and policies to tighten.
Apple is agreeing the sell you a product and it may not necessarily be perfect. There is nothing that exists today that one could call perfect.
I guess my question from you is: What exactly are you expecting from Apple in return for your money? What constitutes less? A dead pixel? A warmer screen? Backlight bleed? All of these are standard issues that any smart consumer would know about. And a reasonable consumer should know what the acceptable tolerances are.
Not returning an item because of a small, and likely barely noticeable defect is not being a consumer pushover. In fact, it is smart. Unless the device is absolutely atrocious to look at, why waste time to only get the same minor defects?
I had the same problem, went to the store, talked to manager, at first they said there was nothing wrong. I got a little 'loud' and they ended up reserving a replacement and will call me when its in, i also decided to jump form 32g to 64g. They also told me that I can open it when im in the store and check it out.
Those of you saying you have perfect screens, would you mind posting some pictures? It's not that I don't believe you, it's just I need some frame of reference for a perfect screen.
Three words - Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
I have some sympathy for this as my wife has this problem.
You need to let go of worrying obout this.
It doesn't matter if it is perfect - things in the real world rarely are! It doesn't matter whether someone elses screen is better than yours or not - some screens will be better than others - that is the reality of things.
The question is does it allow you to do what you want to do with it? If it does, use it and forget about whether it is perfect or not.
If it doesn't - exchange it, return it, or sell it and save yourself the angst.
Move on, you can waste an awful lot of time on this stuff.
I have some sympathy for this as my wife has this problem.
You need to let go of worrying obout this.
It doesn't matter if it is perfect - things in the real world rarely are! It doesn't matter whether someone elses screen is better than yours or not - some screens will be better than others - that is the reality of things.
The question is does it allow you to do what you want to do with it? If it does, use it and forget about whether it is perfect or not.
If it doesn't - exchange it, return it, or sell it and save yourself the angst.
Move on, you can waste an awful lot of time on this stuff.
From Apple, in return for my money, I expect what is advertised, and certainly not the opposite.
What criteria did you use to determine that "dead pixels, warmer screens and backlight bleeds are all standard issues a consumer should know about?" While some of us may be Apple fanboys of above-average intelligence, let's not forgot that Apple's products are marketed to "average" consumers. It's not like they limit their commercials to the SciFi network.
I'd love to see how many Apple owners (of any Apple product) even know what backlight bleed is. Frankly, I don't agree that the average consumer of these products should have this knowledge. It could be that I missed the messaging in their advertising about the potential for REPEAT instances of dead pixels. Had that been clear to me, I would not have bothered purchasing a product that boasts a huge touch screen as its strength.
"All on a big, beautiful Multi-Touch screen."
-Quote from http://www.apple.com/ipad/
There is no such thing as "barely noticeable." Something is either noticed or not noticed. There are no varying degrees of "noticeableness." And "absolutely atrocious" is completely open to interpretation. In this case, YOUR interpretation. So here's my interpretation: A dead or stuck pixel on a product whose function rests primarily in the quality of its screen is ABSOLUTELY ATROCIOUS.
LMAO!! 50% is extreme conditions?!?!? Wtf, I keep mine at 100% all the time. I guess I should join the X Games!
I must be lucky, mine seems perfect. As did my iPhone, 3G, 3GS. I don't know if I'm just extremely lucky or not very picky, but none of the iPhones or iPads I've ever seen, held, played with exhibited any of these problems... yet judging by some of the hysteria on the forums all ipads are plagued with defective screens and non-working wifi.
I still remember all the "My iPhone 3G is cracking waaaaah" threads.
I'm not saying you are crazy... but when folks are returning 2-3 units and always getting defects, we are either dealing with a bad batch or OCD.
I still remember all the "My iPhone 3G is cracking waaaaah" threads.
I'm not saying you are crazy... but when folks are returning 2-3 units and always getting defects, we are either dealing with a bad batch or OCD.
Wow, so you work for Apple and establish manufacturing tolerances then, cool. Well you should be able to clear this right up.