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I believe this picture sums it up best.
 

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Even TV manufacturers have abandoned LCDs. When I replaced my plasma TV last year I came very close to pulling the trigger on an LG OLED but was a bit weary of long term burn in.....so I opted for a Sony LED. Pic is outstanding but not as nice as OLED. LCD served its purpose in the early years of flat panel but an old old technology. No such thing as a 'great' LCD screen IMO.

LED is an LCD that is just lit differently. LED is still an LCD panel.
 
Better contrast more energy efficient cooler running. Better technology. But like I said oled is better visually than either.
 
My answer to the question is YES.

The iPhone x series screws up my eyes in a serious way. I can literally feel my eyes ache like their working harder to view the screen. Iphone X gave me headaches. XS Max didn't give me a headache but definitely strained my eyes. I also don't like the over warm calibration, much prefer a cool white on my plus.

Apple seem incapable of offering a consistent calibration for their OLED phone as every one I see looks either too yellow, too red or has a shimmery rainbow effect I've not seen on any other phone?

I work on computers all day as a graphic designer and use my iPhone regularly, I don't have time for issues or people who suggest it's in my head! No issue with LCD.
 
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This. They did a great job in the marketing departments making consumers think it's completely new technology. It's LED backlit LCD. Just as pretty much every LCD display has been for the past 10 years.

Every LCD but with poorer contrast ratio, grayer blacks and a lesser color spectrum.
 
Understood. But the post I was replying to says that only the OLED support HDR. That statement is not true.

The basis for your point is word semantics. My point is, if you want to see true/legitimate HDR you would need an OLED iPhone. Full support, I believe would be a better way to put it.
Any other statement or document is misleading, in other words...I'll leave it at that.
 
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I believe this picture sums it up best.

Except that Apple's specs on the OLED look more like the right, its so washed out. I get that they wanted to make it true but would it have killed them to give it a little bit of pop.
 
Except that Apple's specs on the OLED look more like the right, its so washed out. I get that they wanted to make it true but would it have killed them to give it a little bit of pop.

Haha what?! Put any AMOLED iPhone up against any LCD iPhone while watching this video at max brightness and please come back to me. Those colors are brilliant and true to life to boot!

 
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And I can say the opposite with my various Android phones ( Samsung phones ) that never had any burn in ... so ymmv

If they didn't get burn in, the OLED iPhones are far less susceptible to it.
Even from crazy testing they aren't sure if the burn in was permanent or temporary image retention!
Apple does more to mitigate burn in even with Samsung manufactured displays.
The arstechnica report says neither Apple or Samsung phone owners should worry, but the Samsung phones, including the Note 8 did show burn in effects far sooner. They are looking at burn in effects displaying the phone at full brightness 17+ hours
displaying the same static image; true burn in at 510 hours:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...-image-to-burn-in-on-the-iphone-x-test-shows/
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Except that Apple's specs on the OLED look more like the right, its so washed out. I get that they wanted to make it true but would it have killed them to give it a little bit of pop.

More less color accurate, and oversaturated in other words? The whole reason they even beat the Samsung Android phones is because of color accuracy, in reports (Displaymate, Tom's Guide).
 
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If they didn't get burn in, the OLED iPhones are far less susceptible to it.
Even from crazy testing they aren't sure if the burn in was permanent or temporary image retention!
Apple does more to mitigate burn in even with Samsung manufactured displays.
The arstechnica report says neither Apple or Samsung phone owners should worry, but the Samsung phones, including the Note 8 did show burn in effects far sooner. They are looking at burn in effects displaying the phone at full brightness 17+ hours
displaying the same static image; true burn in at 510 hours:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...-image-to-burn-in-on-the-iphone-x-test-shows/
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More less color accurate, and oversaturated in other words? The whole reason they even beat the Samsung Android phones is because of color accuracy, in reports (Displaymate, Tom's Guide).

Meh I saw that and it’s still a moot point. I used my various Samsung phones :
s2,S3,S4, Note 3, Note 4, Note 8, and iPhone X all around a year plus with no issues of burn in. If you want to do it on purpose sure but real life usage you’ll be fine. I seen plenty of store models of the same phones I Stated with burn in but those aren’t used like your daily phone so it’s not the same. I think if you like OLED go buy it without a real worry of burn in. If it does you can always get it exchanged for a replacement screen in the first year
 
Meh I saw that and it’s still a moot point. I used my various Samsung phones :
s2,S3,S4, Note 3, Note 4, Note 8, and iPhone X all around a year plus with no issues of burn in. If you want to do it on purpose sure but real life usage you’ll be fine. I seen plenty of store models of the same phones I Stated with burn in but those aren’t used like your daily phone so it’s not the same. I think if you like OLED go buy it without a real worry of burn in. If it does you can always get it exchanged for a replacement screen in the first year

No one should worry about burn in on either Apple or Samsung phones was my point...and the point of the article.
Someone said their iPhone got it, but I'll believe it when I see it.
 
I’d be a vote for a good LCD too. I think it provides a truer and less saturated tone. You also don’t seem to get the green, blue and pink crazy colours when viewing from a side angle. I’m all for OLED though if it makes LCD iPhones cheaper though lol.!
 
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I’d be a vote for a good LCD too. I think it provides a truer and less saturated tone. You also don’t seem to get the green, blue and pink crazy colours when viewing from a side angle. I’m all for OLED though if it makes LCD iPhones cheaper though lol.!

LCD does not provide a truer tone. It's worse for your health in the last University study cause
it is hitting your eyes with 2/3 more blue light.
Displaymate and Tom's Guide called the XS Max the best color accurate and sharpest iPhone they received.
OLED is tricky because it has hurt people's eyes in Apple iPhones cause of PWM, but I think if you keep
the brightness over 50% you're fine for most people.
 
LCD does not provide a truer tone. It's worse for your health in the last University study cause
it is hitting your eyes with 2/3 more blue light.
Displaymate and Tom's Guide called the XS Max the best color accurate and sharpest iPhone they received.
OLED is tricky because it has hurt people's eyes in Apple iPhones cause of PWM, but I think if you keep
the brightness over 50% you're fine for most people.

The first thing I’ve done when looking at OLED phones is turn the brightness right down. I don’t even have my brightness above a 1/3 as I find it’s plenty bright enough for my eyes. Anything more gives me eye strain. I wouldn’t argue what’s better technically as i’ll be honest I’m not
overly interested in screen specs. I just know from experience I prefer the appearance of LCD and given the choice I’d buy it due to its lower cost too. I think the 8+ and the XR have shown it can compete.
 
The first thing I’ve done when looking at OLED phones is turn the brightness right down. I don’t even have my brightness above a 1/3 as I find it’s plenty bright enough for my eyes. Anything more gives me eye strain. I wouldn’t argue what’s better technically as i’ll be honest I’m not
overly interested in screen specs. I just know from experience I prefer the appearance of LCD and given the choice I’d buy it due to its lower cost too. I think the 8+ and the XR have shown it can compete.


I think if OLED is best for our eyes, Apple needs to bring the costs down and change the PWM so people don't get headaches from their implementation of it.
 
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I can see there is a market for both types of technology still. I think a great number of consumers, myself included, couldn’t give a toss whether our phones have OLED or LCD as long as it’s a decent performing iPhone with up to date software features and compelling performance bumps. I personally prefer LCD as it feels less harsh on the eyes but if my next iPhone had OLED I wouldn’t care as long as it costs around £750.
 
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LCD does not provide a truer tone. It's worse for your health in the last University study cause
it is hitting your eyes with 2/3 more blue light.
Displaymate and Tom's Guide called the XS Max the best color accurate and sharpest iPhone they received.
OLED is tricky because it has hurt people's eyes in Apple iPhones cause of PWM, but I think if you keep
the brightness over 50% you're fine for most people.

They may be better for you health because of less blue light, but if you’re sensitive yo PWM it’s definetely not better for your overall health. Keeping the brightness up is not a solution, especially since many migraine sufferers also get discomfort from too bright light. The effects of PWM on people who doesn’t experience symptoms have not been studied, so even if there is research showing that OLEDs are better for the eyes, it doesn’t take PWM into consideration.
 
Its strange, Samsung and other manufactures have been using OLED displays for years and I never once heard anyone mention PWM. Now that apple has OLED displays all these posts about people getting headaches are popping up.

Because there are far more special, sensitive snowflakes in Apple’s customer base that are used to having everyone listen when they whine about how hard their first world life is.
That's because Samsung phones come with two options:

1. Blue light filter which may or may not be turned on by default. The blue light filter is similar to Flux. Which I believe Apple introduced a few years ago.

2. Auto adjusting brightness based on what the light sensor on the front picks up.

Dark environment = Lowered brightness
Bright environment = Higher brightness

The Samsung phones also prevent you from going to 100% brightness, giving you a warning dialog window which you must acknowledge before you can move the slider over to 100% brightness which temporarily turns off the light sensor's ability to auto-adjust brightness.

Never experienced eye irritation using any Samsung Galaxy S device from the first phone up until now. I wasn't aware Apple didn't utilize either or both of these simple features for their customers. Besides, Samsung also has contrast/color profile settings nestled deep in the settings.
 
...Never experienced eye irritation using any Samsung Galaxy S device from the first phone up until now. I wasn't aware Apple didn't utilize either or both of these simple features for their customers. Besides, Samsung also has contrast/color profile settings nestled deep in the settings.
Apple iPhones have the same types of features.
 
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