iPhone X Does anyone prefer a great LCD screen over OLED?

[0388631]

Apple iPhones have the same types of features.

Interesting. I'll have to check it out. I used an iPhone 6 for a month a long time ago and didn't really like iOS. I'd been thinking of hopping on over to iOS so I used a spare phone we had laying around. Apple does some things right but it just didn't work for me.

Can't say I've experienced I pain when setting up an XS Max I bought recently or my own S9. Maybe it's tied to the individual? I don't have blue light filtering turned on for my S9 and I disabled the auto dimming, mostly because it was annoying.

 

[I7guy]

Interesting. I'll have to check it out. I used an iPhone 6 for a month a long time ago and didn't really like iOS. I'd been thinking of hopping on over to iOS so I used a spare phone we had laying around. Apple does some things right but it just didn't work for me.

Can't say I've experienced I pain when setting up an XS Max I bought recently or my own S9. Maybe it's tied to the individual? I don't have blue light filtering turned on for my S9 and I disabled the auto dimming, mostly because it was annoying.

Those options are under general -> accessibility -> display accomodations.

 

[davedvdy]

They may be better for you health because of less blue light, but if you’re sensitive yo PWM it’s definetely not better for your overall health. Keeping the brightness up is not a solution, especially since many migraine sufferers also get discomfort from too bright light. The effects of PWM on people who doesn’t experience symptoms have not been studied, so even if there is research showing that OLEDs are better for the eyes, it doesn’t take PWM into consideration.

I'm not an expert on this, but if you keep the brightness up, it usually takes away the PWM.
The problem with Apple's implementation of OLED screens is that they flicker like crazy when the brightness levels are turned down.
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I can see there is a market for both types of technology still. I think a great number of consumers, myself included, couldn’t give a toss whether our phones have OLED or LCD as long as it’s a decent performing iPhone with up to date software features and compelling performance bumps. I personally prefer LCD as it feels less harsh on the eyes but if my next iPhone had OLED I wouldn’t care as long as it costs around £750.

I can make a case for or against OLED but when you bring finances into the mix, it changes things quite a bit, doesn't it?
Phones costing more than laptops for crying out loud, lol.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I'm not an expert on this, but if you keep the brightness up, it usually takes away the PWM.
The problem with Apple's implementation of OLED screens is that they flicker like crazy when the brightness levels are turned down.
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I can make a case for or against OLED but when you bring finances into the mix, it changes things quite a bit, doesn't it?
Phones costing more than laptops for crying out loud, lol.

My phone is more useful to me than my MacBook though lol

 

[davedvdy]

My phone is more useful to me than my MacBook though lol

Thank you, that's the best case for loving our expensive phones lmaoooo
[doublepost=1549815708][/doublepost]Leave it to Shanghaichica to figure it out, she's one of the best forum posters around here lol

 

[Candikane]

Because there are far more special, sensitive snowflakes in Apple’s customer base that are used to having everyone listen when they whine about how hard their first world life is.

I’ll also point out the fact that the device is blamed and an entire type of well established screen technology is derided before anyone even suggests that the amount of time someone spends staring at a tiny screen could cause a headache.

Nah. Let’s just skip right to “NO I’M SENSITIVE AND A VICTIM TOO”.

Some of us really are highly sensitive to flickering lights. They trigger massive migraines, vertigo, and possibly seizures in me (suspected, pending eeg). The AMOLED screens destroy me just as badly as fluorescent lights do. Same symptoms, same pattern, same progression. The red, flashing proximity sensor on the XR also does. Just because the eyes can't see the flickering or flashing doesn't mean the brain doesn't see it. Please try to keep a more open mind and less stigma towards us that are trying to deal with this horrendous disorder.

 

[Caesars]

People tell me the Xr screen is great (I’ll give it an ok rating), when it’s next to my Max it just reinforces how much better OLED is.

 

[apolloa]

Well today I compared my XR next to an XS Max, both on max brightness with True Tone on. The XS Max screen looked better... it also doesn’t have the shadows round the edges like the XR does. Think I may change later in the year to the Max...

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

As a phone screen I think the XR is perfectly fine. I’ve compared it to my 8+ and the Max and it’s slightly less crisp but nothing night and day. I’d have no problem with it as my next phone. I think people get a little too obsessed with screens and talk themselves into needing something which carries a big premium for slightly better.

 

[alpi123]

I would never go back to LCD if I could. OLED just gives me more of a flat screen, in a way. LCD's have a backlight and the empty space between each subpixel gives me glowing on every LCD I've seen.

 

[nordique]

I love great Lcds but I don't prefer them, no. I prefer OLED overall...

But To be honest though I don't really care lol. It doesn't bother me my MacBook doesn't have an OLED or my XR doesn't have an OLED
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I would never go back to LCD if I could. OLED just gives me more of a flat screen, in a way. LCD's have a backlight and the empty space between each subpixel gives me glowing on every LCD I've seen.

That's fair. I don't mind LCD but if you're sensitive to deep blacks then for sure that's a big deal for people.

Here's a comparison of my x and XR at night during a software update bootup. Guess which is which lol (obviously XR on the left, X right)

 

[AustinIllini]

OLED done right is king. iPhone and Galaxy phones do it right. Pixel 3 is there now, too. We're reaching the end of LCD on phones.

 

[I7guy]

As a phone screen I think the XR is perfectly fine. I’ve compared it to my 8+ and the Max and it’s slightly less crisp but nothing night and day. I’d have no problem with it as my next phone. I think people get a little too obsessed with screens and talk themselves into needing something which carries a big premium for slightly better.

Night and day is subjective. One persons' slightly different is another persons' night and day.

 

[apolloa]

As a phone screen I think the XR is perfectly fine. I’ve compared it to my 8+ and the Max and it’s slightly less crisp but nothing night and day. I’d have no problem with it as my next phone. I think people get a little too obsessed with screens and talk themselves into needing something which carries a big premium for slightly better.

Sure it’s fine, having had my XR for a few months now I get annoyed with the shadows round the edges, on this forum I can constantly see them around the notch, the Max doesn’t have this.
What surprised me the most is I’ve convinced myself the Max isn’t all that much bigger then the XR and I would appreciate the even bigger screen!

That’s the EXACT thing you lot say, once you go from a small device, like my 6S, to a big device you really get used to the bigger screen and adapt quickly and you can’t go back.. I have to agree with it 100% now.
I’ll swap but I’ll wait for the new iPhones so the Max drops in price.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Night and day is subjective. One persons' slightly different is another persons' night and day.

Everything is subjective even ‘best phone’ but we endlessly debate it here. The screen would be fine for me and I can’t help but have a little wry smile about that especially in a market of prices shooting up every year lol.

 

[AustinIllini]

Everything is subjective even ‘best phone’ but we endlessly debate it here. The screen would be fine for me and I can’t help but have a little wry smile about that especially in a market of prices shooting up every year lol.

Right. I can say I think the XS is the best iPhone but is it $250 better than the XR? even with the LCD screen, it's probably not That much better.

 

[davedvdy]

As a phone screen I think the XR is perfectly fine. I’ve compared it to my 8+ and the Max and it’s slightly less crisp but nothing night and day. I’d have no problem with it as my next phone. I think people get a little too obsessed with screens and talk themselves into needing something which carries a big premium for slightly better.

It's not, any of these phones would probably work well for most of us. I personally look at the monthly financial difference to justify it, which isn't that much more esp. on 0% interest.

 

[the-bigwig]

Right before my XS MAX arrived I was using 6+ from the start. Just when my XS MAX arrived I almost immediately started to feel sick. Headaches, eye strain (massive one) and so on. But I tried to use it as much as I can and now...it's just gone. Im completely free of it and now using my XS MAX more than ever. It took a month but it's REALLY gone.

And I'm loving it. OLED is much, much better than any LCD and it's a fact. Too bad it can trigger headaches for some, but otherwise it's 100% better. I'll never go back to LCD at any point. I love full HDR when browsing my photos. It's just insane

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

It's not, any of these phones would probably work well for most of us. I personally look at the monthly financial difference to justify it, which isn't that much more esp. on 0% interest.

Affording it isn’t the issue for me, it’s being convinced it’s worth paying more for the Max. Having compared the devices myself to get a feel, I came away realising iOS is iOS and even my 8+ feels fluid and current. It’s obviously going to be different for everybody in terms of taste.

It’s interesting how iPhone users have split into little camps depending on the device though. A few short years ago there was one phone we all wanted as it was the latest and greatest. These days there is much more choice and people don’t necessarily want the XS or Max just because it’s considered the top iPhone. This is perhaps why Apple are having a tougher time delivering to a wider audience with varied tastes.

 

[mac4good84]

I went from an 7 to an X this past November, and after 3 months of use the X has been fantastic. I love the larger screen and the OLED panel is a joy to look at. Now, the 7s LCD was no slouch either, the 7 was fantastic too but for me, watching HDR movies on the X is truly awesome. Face ID works better than I thought and I still can use the phone with one hand easily enough. My wife took my 7 so that’s why I upgraded, but it has worked out nicely for me. IMO the X is worth it.

 

[44267547]

As much as OLED has improved over the years, I guess it really doesn’t seem to execute major disparities over LCD for me. That said, the technology that I’m really looking forward to, and I think offers some serious advantages in terms of less power draw, which results in longer battery life, and is reported to be significantly brighter over OLED, is micro LED. I would say least two more years before this happens, but it’s a for sure thing at some point.

 

[davedvdy]

Affording it isn’t the issue for me, it’s being convinced it’s worth paying more for the Max. Having compared the devices myself to get a feel, I came away realising iOS is iOS and even my 8+ feels fluid and current. It’s obviously going to be different for everybody in terms of taste.

It’s interesting how iPhone users have split into little camps depending on the device though. A few short years ago there was one phone we all wanted as it was the latest and greatest. These days there is much more choice and people don’t necessarily want the XS or Max just because it’s considered the top iPhone. This is perhaps why Apple are having a tougher time delivering to a wider audience with varied tastes.

Yeah, it's because there are lots of factors at play. For example, you couldn't convince my Dad to buy a XR or XS, since he doesn't want to lose the home button. Some don't like the notch, so they'll either keep their phone or buy the 7/8+. Some people don't even know the differences between any of them. Others think the 6 and above are too big. Some don't care at all lol. Many replaced their batteries, as given in statistics. It's all very "subjective" as you said. I wanted OLED and the true high dynamic range it provides, we all just value different things.

 

[apolloa]

Right before my XS MAX arrived I was using 6+ from the start. Just when my XS MAX arrived I almost immediately started to feel sick. Headaches, eye strain (massive one) and so on. But I tried to use it as much as I can and now...it's just gone. Im completely free of it and now using my XS MAX more than ever. It took a month but it's REALLY gone.

And I'm loving it. OLED is much, much better than any LCD and it's a fact. Too bad it can trigger headaches for some, but otherwise it's 100% better. I'll never go back to LCD at any point. I love full HDR when browsing my photos. It's just insane

That’s because your lucky and your brains adapted to the flicker, it seems some don’t adjust to it and can’t use the phones. Which will be interesting if the rumours of an all OLED lineup this year are true.

 

[itsmilo]

I use an 7 Plus and an Xs Max and honestly I don’t see much of a difference when it comes to the screen

 

[BigDO]

If apple goes full OLED with all their phones that will be concerning if it’s going to give everyone headaches.

When the whole lineup is OLED and there are no more budget models using LCD, the PWM headache thing will be forgotten as people won't have to find reasons to justify their choice.