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Does the X need more RAM?

california_kid said:
Wrong. Look at the side by side comparison in the second half of the video. pS app is faster on iPhone X and Minecraft actually works on iPhone X. This is just to name a few. Nice try though.
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Just like how you were wrong. The note 8 is faster than the X in some apps. But you also said all. Hence I did the same. Nice try though.
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Gathomblipoob said:
Well, customer service with OnePlus phones is certainty the best in the world! :D
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Lol! Main reason I have never owned one based on all the bad things I've heard. Then again, if you listen to others all the time of how bad iPhone are or how bad Android is then ...
 
Unlike the iPhone 6+ which was tangibly RAM starved out the gate, the X swims along smoothly in all tasks I normally perform with numerous taskes in the background.

The only app that has a consistent reload annoyance issue is Facebook and I am wagering it’s sloppy code.
 
OcramSagev said:
Raw Android is pretty fast because it doesn't run many background tasks. Try disabling Siri, Reduce Transparency and Reduce Motion settings and you will see how much faster the iPhone works (This is what I do for my iPad Mini 2 because ios 11 made it slow)
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Is this a serious post? Lol Google / Android always gets bashed for having so many background services running. Now it apparently doesn't have many :/.

The X should have come with 4GB from a consumer point of view. Is 3GB sufficient now for daily use and still be efficient? Yes. Will it be 2 years from now? I don't think so. But Apple did that so you will have a next reason to upgrade.
 
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Altis said:
Of course it will be RAM-starved in no time. Sad that such an expensive and otherwise incredibly powerful device will be life-limited by a deliberate lack of RAM, but alas such is the tradition at Apple.

There will be those who go on endlessly about how magical iOS's memory management is, but it's obvious to anyone who uses it that iOS takes overly aggressive measures to constantly free up memory. I can't even leave a video for 10 seconds and go back without having to rebuffer everything all over again.
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I’ve never had that issue with my iPhone X. I stream Hulu, Netflix and prime and switch often. I come back and hit play and it goes.
 
Blaze4G said:
Just like how you were wrong. The note 8 is faster than the X in some apps. But you also said all. Hence I did the same. Nice try though.
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Lol! Main reason I have never owned one based on all the bad things I've heard. Then again, if you listen to others all the time of how bad iPhone are or how bad Android is then ...
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I actually own a OnePlus One. It's in pretty rough shape now, but that's no fault of the phone. The nice thing about my iPhone is that I can walk into an Apple store tomorrow and get a replacement if necessary. It is a premium-priced phone, but I get premium service with it.
 
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Gathomblipoob said:
I actually own a OnePlus One. It's in pretty rough shape now, but that's no fault of the phone. The nice thing about my iPhone is that I can walk into an Apple store tomorrow and get a replacement if necessary. It is a premium-priced phone, but I get premium service with it.
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I loved the OnePlus One. It was such a great phone when it came out. I also agree, that's a big advantage for Apple. Working in the Tech field, there are many people that are so inept when it comes to Tech that an iPhone is ideal for them. This is in no way a knock on iPhones. However, they could always walk into a store and show a genius what there issue is Vs trying to explain it on a phone with support.
 
Blaze4G said:
Just like how you were wrong. The note 8 is faster than the X in some apps. But you also said all. Hence I did the same. Nice try though.
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Nope, I viewed the Samsung video carefully and the narrator stated Samsung appeared faster on Facebook and Snapchat. However you can clearly see those are 2 different Facebook accounts because the photos are different (4 on iPhone and 1 on Samsung) so that test is bogus. Snapchat performance looks to same because it didn’t add to the roughly .5 sec from the bogus Facebook test. The only other app the narrator says is faster for Samsung is ESPN but like Facebook different content on the 2 phones so also bogus.

But you are correct on my grammar so I will edit my original post.
 
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iPad Pros have more RAM than iPhone X and are cheaper. The X got gimped because Apple is stingy. They figure the next one will get it or save it up for the X Plus model to charge more.

This below was happening routinely last year. The 6s / 2 GB RAM beating the fastest Android last year with 6 GB RAM.


Let's be real. Apple messed up with iOS11 for iPhone users. The software now feels bloated, poorly optimized, needs more RAM, or all of the above. Remember, nomore 32-bit.

The X's Achilles has been mostly software thanks to how poorly intuitive iOS11 is.
 
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Technarchy said:
Unlike the iPhone 6+ which was tangibly RAM starved out the gate, the X swims along smoothly in all tasks I normally perform with numerous taskes in the background.

The only app that has a consistent reload annoyance issue is Facebook and I am wagering it’s sloppy code.
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If there is one application that I consistently about that contributes the battery drain and crashing, it's Facebook. There has been loads of threads of members complaining about battery drain, then they post their battery statistics and as expected, it shows Facebook being the culprit.
 
Deeds500 said:
Wait a minute, you can multitask on the iPhone X? As in split screen two apps at the same time multitasking?

Oh wait, you mean switching from app to app multitasking lol.

Nevermind.
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I have no use for split screen multitasking on a phone, I'll use my iPad Pro for that.
 
I'm an Android user now, and it has weird slowdown issues that my iPhone never had. The iPhone may not have been quite as fast as Android phones at the time when it was new, but it was reliable and consistent. Android is buggy and temperamental.

In any case, the lack of 4x4 MIMO and, for T-Mobile customers, B71, is going to make the iPhone X obsolete way before RAM issues do anyway.
 
BiggAW said:
I'm an Android user now, and it has weird slowdown issues that my iPhone never had. The iPhone may not have been quite as fast as Android phones at the time when it was new, but it was reliable and consistent. Android is buggy and temperamental.

In any case, the lack of 4x4 MIMO and, for T-Mobile customers, B71, is going to make the iPhone X obsolete way before RAM issues do anyway.
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Why would that make the X obsolete?
 
DNichter said:
Why would that make the X obsolete?
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Because it won't work with T-Mobile's expanded B71 coverage, which actually went live before the iPhone even came out. It's the B12 mess all over again. In the case of 4x4 MIMO, it was already obsolete when it came out, as the S8 has had 4x4 MIMO for months. It's an unfortunate situation where there is no ultimate, you have to trade one off for the other, since Android lags in CPU and overall performance, iPhone lags in wireless performance.
 
BiggAW said:
Because it won't work with T-Mobile's expanded B71 coverage, which actually went live before the iPhone even came out. It's the B12 mess all over again. In the case of 4x4 MIMO, it was already obsolete when it came out, as the S8 has had 4x4 MIMO for months. It's an unfortunate situation where there is no ultimate, you have to trade one off for the other, since Android lags in CPU and overall performance, iPhone lags in wireless performance.
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I am not sure how this makes the phone obsolete, but okay.
 
Need? No. Beneficial? Maybe. First world problem though, people having to wait fractions of seconds longer for apps to switch...just out of order, life is over, how are we going to survive? So the OnePlusT is a decent phone for its money with this very selective testing. Want one? Buy one. I don't, just not keen on Android, and that's purely a preference.
 
Ralfi said:
How are X users finding re-opening background Apps - are they refreshing or remaining where they left off? & which ones are notorious for refreshing & which are the solid ones that don't refresh?

I ask because I've seen a few comparison videos (the latest being
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Although the OnePlus 5T smashed it in pretty much every test here, disappointingly.

Anyway, are you happy with the management of the X's 3GB of RAM & if not, do you see it improving over time as Apps are optimised for the it?
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Android devices with their inferior processors have resorted to pre-cache their apps in their massive RAM. Essentially on a device like this, all of those apps are already open during boot up and don’t need to be loaded at all when you launch them, which is why they are so fast to launch. Even though they still get smashed in pure processor tests.

I’m not downplaying Android, it is a perfectly valid solution to improve perceived speed of the device. Any solution that works is a valid solution, even if it’s an easy and cheap solution. Believe me, 8GB of RAM is massively less expensive than the design and manufacturing of the A11 chip.

As to why Apple doesn’t do this, it has been said many times already, more RAM costs more power to run, even in standby. Also the RAM for iPhones are packed right into the SoC, where as Android phones use a separate RAM package to save costs, it makes their phones bigger. Ever wondered why nobody does small Android phones? Because they can’t pack all their components and enough battery in a small phone.
 
DNichter said:
I am not sure how this makes the phone obsolete, but okay.
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Well, the OG iPhone doesn't work anymore since AT&T shut down GSM/EDGE, but I guess that means that no one needs anything better than 3G, since 3G is still around? Why bother with LTE? It's the same argument.

1096bimu said:
Because they can’t pack all their components and enough battery in a small phone.
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Exactly. It's all about the battery. That's how we got 5" and 6" phones in the first place. Android had to hide the battery somewhere, and then people started liking bigger screens, so Apple made one too.
 
1096bimu said:
Android devices with their inferior processors have resorted to pre-cache their apps in their massive RAM. Essentially on a device like this, all of those apps are already open during boot up and don’t need to be loaded at all when you launch them, which is why they are so fast to launch. Even though they still get smashed in pure processor tests.

I’m not downplaying Android, it is a perfectly valid solution to improve perceived speed of the device. Any solution that works is a valid solution, even if it’s an easy and cheap solution. Believe me, 8GB of RAM is massively less expensive than the design and manufacturing of the A11 chip.

As to why Apple doesn’t do this, it has been said many times already, more RAM costs more power to run, even in standby. Also the RAM for iPhones are packed right into the SoC, where as Android phones use a separate RAM package to save costs, it makes their phones bigger. Ever wondered why nobody does small Android phones? Because they can’t pack all their components and enough battery in a small phone.
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Yes, but the video shows it loads faster, so it's better. Some people in denial will take anything at face value. People like you and I understand the differences and nuances, but most don't, and that's why we have lies, lies and damn statistics in this world.

I won't bash Android, it's clearly decent enough, especially if you like to tweak under the hood. Just I've found a lot of Android versions of apps not that well optimised. How can they be? There are so many different hardware configurations, so many different manufacturer skins...just massively fragmented. They can load as fast as they like. I don't mind waiting an extra fraction of a second to have a nicer user experience once it has loaded.
 
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also I would like to add that this idiotic YouTuber’s “brightness bug” is most likely because he keeps burning it on max brightness and the phone is trying to protect itself from burn in.
 
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BiggAW said:
Well, the OG iPhone doesn't work anymore since AT&T shut down GSM/EDGE, but I guess that means that no one needs anything better than 3G, since 3G is still around? Why bother with LTE? It's the same argument.



Exactly. It's all about the battery. That's how we got 5" and 6" phones in the first place. Android had to hide the battery somewhere, and then people started liking bigger screens, so Apple made one too.
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Not exactly. In its current state and the current state of wireless, the X works great, and will continue to work great for years. The spectrum you speak of is barely utilized.
 
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