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Does your 4G AT&T indicate when in LTE coverage?

New iPad 32G on AT&T.

Well so far I'm not impressed. Saturday I went in to get a new SIM for my ipad since after moving the one from my ipad2 it said that I needed a 4G compatible sim card and needed to visit ATT to get it.

I live in Central NJ which is NOT an LTE area according to the ATT map. Tests show no speed improvements over my iPad2.

At my office in downtown NYC which IS an LTE area, I do not see an LTE indicator and speed tests are abysmal. 1.1M down and 100k up.

Tried resetting the iPad and made sure that LTE is enabled. Also tried resetting network settings and reseating the SIM card.

Can anyone else in NYC comment or tell me if I am missing something?
 
itsjared said:
I'm on mine right now and I live in Dallas (LTE central for AT&T). Nothing to indicate I'm on LTE.

Of course I have AT&T.
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In Dallas as well. It wouldn't show LTE at my apartment in Plano. This morning at my office (Grapevine) it showed up after a restart of the iPad.

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Im in arlington TX and most of the time im in an LTE area
 

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Of course they are going to be fast in Texas, that's where they are based out of. However, on the east coast, AT&T 3G is practically useless and unbelievably still being rolled out. The 4G network is almost nowhere to be seen.
 
aka777 said:
Of course they are going to be fast in Texas, that's where they are based out of. However, on the east coast, AT&T 3G is practically useless and unbelievably still being rolled out. The 4G network is almost nowhere to be seen.
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I'm on the east coast and I get AT&T LTE coverage almost everywhere I go, and the download and upload speeds are comparable to the ones posted above.
 
All weekend I only got 4G at my house so I was a little worried, as I'm smack dab in the middle of Phoenix's LTE area. I drove to work this morning and tested it a few times on the freeway and now I'm locked onto LTE. Ridiculous speed - 38mbps down, 20mbps up!

I've never had a connection that fast, anywhere! Here's to hoping it knows how to lock onto the LTE now when I go back home tonight. :)

The main thing is that I have LTE at work now - they don't allow us to get on the wifi network here, so having LTE instead of 3G is like night and day.
 
I live in San Diego and have had a constant "LTE" signal with the iPad rarely showing the default HSPA+ "4G" symbol. My download speeds have been anywhere from 18mbps to 52mpbs. It all just varies based upon where you live and frequent...
 
ZBoater said:
Tricks like what? :confused:
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...like advertising unlimited ipad 3g when the original ipad was released, only to pull the unlimited about 30 days later, insisting that you keep a constant connection (i.e. active plan) in order to keep unlimited. That kind of trick.

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MajesticNJ said:
New iPad 32G on AT&T.

Well so far I'm not impressed. Saturday I went in to get a new SIM for my ipad since after moving the one from my ipad2 it said that I needed a 4G compatible sim card and needed to visit ATT to get it.

I live in Central NJ which is NOT an LTE area according to the ATT map. Tests show no speed improvements over my iPad2.

At my office in downtown NYC which IS an LTE area, I do not see an LTE indicator and speed tests are abysmal. 1.1M down and 100k up.

Tried resetting the iPad and made sure that LTE is enabled. Also tried resetting network settings and reseating the SIM card.

Can anyone else in NYC comment or tell me if I am missing something?
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Why did you have to get a new sim, didn't your att ipad3 come with one?
 
Blorzoga said:
...like advertising unlimited ipad 3g when the original ipad was released, only to pull the unlimited about 30 days later, insisting that you keep a constant connection (i.e. active plan) in order to keep unlimited. That kind of trick.
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That's not a trick. Thats just business. Not very good business, but business nonetheless. People insisted on having unlimited data with anything they wanted to do, clearly ignoring the terms of use and clogging the cellular networks. That's why the plans had to be pulled, not to pull a "fast one" on you.
 
At my dad's house in South San Francisco, ATT 3G coverage was spotty at best with my iPhone 4, usually ranging from 1 to 3 bars and alternating from Edge to 3G constantly (or sometimes even no signal). And even with 3G, speeds were pretty slow. With my new iPad, it now alternates between LTE and 4G, with really fast speeds despite a low number of bars. I'm really pleased!
 
ZBoater said:
That's not a trick. Thats just business. Not very good business, but business nonetheless. People insisted on having unlimited data with anything they wanted to do, clearly ignoring the terms of use and clogging the cellular networks. That's why the plans had to be pulled, not to pull a "fast one" on you.
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That's BS. They pulled it almost immediately after enticing people to shell out the extra $120 to get the 3G version. They probably had it planned. It was nothing more than bait-and-switch. They advertised it as an on-off plan, then immediately changed the requirement which essentially made it a on-only contract. From the sound of your response, I can only assume you work for AT&T. "People" didn't "insist" on having unlimited, it was explicitly offered by AT&T. They certainly had the insight to know that it would cause an increase in their network traffic and should have anticipated it or not offered it.
 
Blorzoga said:
...From the sound of your response, I can only assume you work for AT&T. "People" didn't "insist" on having unlimited, it was explicitly offered by AT&T. They certainly had the insight to know that it would cause an increase in their network traffic and should have anticipated it or not offered it.
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No, I do not (although in the interest of full disclosure, I did over 15 years ago). They explicitly called out email, web browsing, and downloading legal music as acceptable uses. They EXPLICITLY excluded web broadcasting, which includes all these streaming services.

So, how can you possibly rack up 10GB of usage with just email, web browsing, and downloading legal music? You can't. All these people watching streaming movies over cellular is what screwed it up for the rest of us.

Yes, AT&T goofed in offering "unlimited" and expecting people to actually READ their contracts to know what acceptable and unacceptable uses were. So they pulled it. Bait and switch? Hardly. More like getting burned and trying to protect their profits.
 
MajesticNJ said:
New iPad 32G on AT&T.

Well so far I'm not impressed. Saturday I went in to get a new SIM for my ipad since after moving the one from my ipad2 it said that I needed a 4G compatible sim card and needed to visit ATT to get it.

I live in Central NJ which is NOT an LTE area according to the ATT map. Tests show no speed improvements over my iPad2.

At my office in downtown NYC which IS an LTE area, I do not see an LTE indicator and speed tests are abysmal. 1.1M down and 100k up.

Tried resetting the iPad and made sure that LTE is enabled. Also tried resetting network settings and reseating the SIM card.

Can anyone else in NYC comment or tell me if I am missing something?
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Just use the sim that came with it, go into accounts, click and it will prompt you for existing account user, which you enter your password. Automatically sets up. I did the same thing you did by switching sims so even though it was a 4g sim it never showed lte. Once I used the ipad 3 sim, in the manner just described, worked perfectly.
 
ZBoater said:
No, I do not (although in the interest of full disclosure, I did over 15 years ago). They explicitly called out email, web browsing, and downloading legal music as acceptable uses. They EXPLICITLY excluded web broadcasting, which includes all these streaming services.

So, how can you possibly rack up 10GB of usage with just email, web browsing, and downloading legal music? You can't. All these people watching streaming movies over cellular is what screwed it up for the rest of us.

Yes, AT&T goofed in offering "unlimited" and expecting people to actually READ their contracts to know what acceptable and unacceptable uses were. So they pulled it. Bait and switch? Hardly. More like getting burned and trying to protect their profits.
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So, it was unlimited if you only use it for limited purposes? Did they really not expect users to stream media? Unlimited means that there are no limits. Obviously, using 10gb per month would be abusive, but they hardly gave people a chance to even reach that level. You can't tell me they were that naive to think people would spend $800 on a device capable of streaming Netflix were only going to check their email, lightly surf the web and download music. They're not stupid. They surely anticipated heavy use and screwed people. I bought a 3G iPad specifically because I wanted the ability to have access without having to count my megabytes or pay a monthly fee. AT&T has no reasonable defense other than that they but off more than they could chew and their customers had to suffer the consequences. You can call it business all you want, I call it unethical.
 
Blorzoga said:
So, it was unlimited if you only use it for limited purposes? Did they really not expect users to stream media?
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Yes, they did. They explicitly said so in the CONTRACT you AGREED to abide by.

Blorzoga said:
Unlimited means that there are no limits.
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Well, I would agree with you. But in this case "unlimited" means whatever the contract says is meant. It is not reasonable to expect to pay $30 and do 3TB (with a T) a week. But I agree their failure to more clearly market this plan is clear.


Blorzoga said:
You can't tell me they were that naive to think people would spend $800 on a device capable of streaming Netflix were only going to check their email, lightly surf the web and download music.
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No, I cannot tell you. But AT&T can. And did. Very clearly. In the contract YOU AGREED TO and apparently did not read before you signed up. :D


Blorzoga said:
They're not stupid. They surely anticipated heavy use and screwed people. I bought a 3G iPad specifically because I wanted the ability to have access without having to count my megabytes or pay a monthly fee. AT&T has no reasonable defense other than that they but off more than they could chew and their customers had to suffer the consequences. You can call it business all you want, I call it unethical.
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Ok, so what you are saying is that AT&T intentionally offered "unlimited" to lure people into buying iPads then yanked it when enough people bought them?

Ok, I guess. You are entitled to your opinion. I just don't think it is reasonable. Business don't operate that way. Business operate to make money. I think it is entirely more reasonable that they offered unlimited thinking people would abide by the contract and that most users would stay under the cap. What happened is that many users simply ignored the contract and clogged their network, forcing them to take back the plan. But that is also my opinion only.
 
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