He will, just as he’s always done. This has nothing to do with ‘stepping up to the plate’.
and there goes the honeymoon between Cook & Trump! See the stock fall today alone for no other reason.
He will, just as he’s always done. This has nothing to do with ‘stepping up to the plate’.
Apple's response does not say they can't do it.
Yep, and if they were to implement such a thing, that doesn’t help at all for this phone and investigation (if you can’t unlock this phone, you can’t update the OS/firmware). Which is why the request looks disingenuous - if they want a backdoor in all future phones, come out and say that (I’m guessing they don't want to be seen asking for that).This is my understanding as well. The only way they would be able to do it is with a 'back door' which Apple (rightly) refuses to implement.
Can we call it that now, or is it still supposed to be “Freedom Toast”?Agreed; it's very suspicious. I suspect he eats a lot of "French" toast there.
If it's only locked with a 6-digit code, they can do it. That's 10M permutations, and the only thing stopping others from guessing quickly is the secrecy of the hardware.The point is Apple can’t do it. That’s how they designed it.
As the link says, it's not end to end, so Apple can read the backup.Most back up to iCloud, is that the answer you were looking for? Oh, those backups are encrypted before they leave your phone (when it wants your password before restoring it isn't just for "permission", it's for decrypting the backup). If the FBI could easily break the AES128 encryption on the iCloud backups, they wouldn't be asking for Apple's help.
More info here: iCloud security overview - Apple Support
Violent criminals have given up their rights when they decided to become violent criminals
I hardly see how 'the right to privacy' or 'orange man bad' is a defensible stance on this one, but alas, I'm sure I'll see things fly off the rails in no time with replies
As for dangerous precedents set to move the goal post on what's acceptable in terms of 'privacy violations' -- we are long past that inflection point, with the discovery of NSA dragnet spying on every single law abiding citizen, just cuz, and the Patriot Act playing into the fears of 9/11, and all the rest of it.
I suppose there's no guessing box for the latest version yet.How about those black boxes(or whats their name was) from black market? Yea,yea,yea, i know, IoS Is SeCuRe AgAiNsT tHaT, but, with every new iPhone update, there is new black box update that surpasses it, so, whats the big deal? Because using it is immoral and illegal? Well, I guess, mass shootings also are highly immoral and also illegal, so, what are people waiting on?
Unlocking the phone of a criminal in a "one off" situation...I agree.
But don't show the FBI how to do it.
Do it for them and let them look.
Telling them how to do it = slippery slope.
I don't buy that at all. It's not hardware that can be destroyed and not restored to its former glory like something that's been burned. It's a collection of numbers, it may be a whole lot of numbers and they may be extemely complex large ones but that is all it is.The point is Apple can’t do it. That’s how they designed it.
It is just an excuse... the US government want a backdoor in iOS. Nothing more than that.Sacrificing the privacy of hundreds of millions of innocentAmericanshumans across the world just for more evidence on an already convicted shooter makes no sense.
Trump basically created a lot of problems to Apple since the beginning...> We are helping Apple all of the time on TRADE and so many other issues
lol
I don't buy that at all. It's not hardware that can be destroyed and not restored to its former glory like something that's been burned. It's a collection of numbers, it may be a whole lot of numbers and they may be extemely complex large ones but that is all it is.
Apple engineered it and in time they can reverse engineer it, (if they choose to).
Whether you agree or not that they should do it is the question, who knows, I may be the one being naive here but just taking the word of a tech company that they have no answer to this seems naive to me.
Wonder what's apple hiding they will not unlock a phone ? Google will in a heart beat.
Are you implying iCloud has a bit-for-bit copy of what's on your phone? Or do you just not know what you're talking about?
I don't buy that at all. It's not hardware that can be destroyed and not restored to its former glory like something that's been burned. It's a collection of numbers, it may be a whole lot of numbers and they may be extemely complex large ones but that is all it is.
Apple engineered it and in time they can reverse engineer it, (if they choose to).
Whether you agree or not that they should do it is the question, who knows, I may be the one being naive here but just taking the word of a tech company that they have no answer to this seems naive to me.
That is incorrect. Apple can. This was revealed in the San Bernadino case where the iPhone was protected by a PIN.
It's not hard to brute force 10,000 pins. However, it is restricted by a timeout and an eventual auto wipe. This is enforced in software. All Apple needs to do is create and sign a custom firmware that skips over the code that does this.
You can argue whether Apple should or should not, but the fact is that there's no technical reason why they can't. It's a social issue at play.
Well I’m convinced this administration isn’t asking for backdoor exploit handouts they literally just want all the guys records , and Tim being a globalist is more on board with this recurring trend from one political party of catch and release criminals back into society. Open borders, and ideological pats on the back along the whole journey. It’s all so perfect
And only harms every day citizens but not at all coveted elites who don’t have to worry about their own security or finances being on another planet proverbially speaking, protected and unaffected while the world turns to hell
Why bother having law and justice at all if these guys can rinse and repeat what they’re doing and powers that be turn a blind eye and borderline are encouraging this kinda behavior
But I’m done now; at least with you
Yep. Not disputing that. Only questioning the notion that they can’t get into the phone.Apple can do it, but by doing it they also create a situation where every iPhone in the whole world can be accessed by the same method. There's no way for Apple to get into this particular phone without, at the same time, making all iPhones insecure. This is what the U.S government really wants, a way to get into every phone. They don't really care about this particular phone.
And are you sure they can flash a firmware at hardware level without wiping out every data on the phone itself ? I am not so sure about that.No you are completely misunderstanding. Cellebrite is going through a backdoor. The anti-hammer provisions are a front door. Cellebrite can't modify core OS code due to OS signing. Apple holds the signing keys and can.
You're believing that there's some magic cryptography that guarantees that you can only try 10 pins. There isn't. There's explicit code that Apple wrote that can be bypassed by Apple. In fact, this code has been changed by Apple during regular iOS updates, e.g. when they added the feature to require a PIN once a week.
Arguing based on a misconception or technical ignorance just hurts the cause.