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Donald Trump Calls on Apple to 'Step Up to the Plate' and Unlock iPhones Used by Florida Mass Shooter
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I've said this before on unlocking iPhone case, but this is just another American alphabet agencies incompetence talking, nothing more, nothing less. Once U.S. have the manufacturer to oblige, this will go on forever per country to unlock phones after phones. This will be another TSA luggage fiasco again.
10 million permutations? lol, I’m sure the guy had set it up as “10 failed attempts = lock and erase the iPhone”
I see people that are adamant Apple cannot unlock iPhones. Because encryption. Because Apple said so. Because you want to believe. But it’s hard to believe a company is going to design hardware they can’t get into.
Bottom line I can’t prove they can. You can’t prove they cannot. So let’s at least stop making statements of certainty that Apple cannot unlock iPhones. You simply do not know.
The fbi wouldn’t be asking if they didn’t think Apple could.
Bottom line I can’t prove they can. You can’t prove they cannot. So let’s at least stop making statements of certainty that Apple cannot unlock iPhones. You simply do not know.
The fbi wouldn’t be asking if they didn’t think Apple could.
Right. There are no back doors.
Just a hypothetical question. Suppose an Apple engineer was found guilty of selling secrets to a competitor but the evidence was on their phone and they refused to unlock it. Could Apple unlock it then, when it was absolutely in their interests to do so? If they can't then utmost respect to their designers.
Unlocking a door for which the key has been lost, requires a master key. Something Apple does not possess for iOS devices has always been against it being created and hopefully will stick to it. I honestly thought that someone did teach the president one thing or 2 about technology. Is it completely impossible for him to comprehend what sort of consequences would the creation of a backdoor key like this have to hundreds of millions of people around the world, including the US national security itself? Mind-boggling how he can be so ignorant at times.
That is mathematically not true. Not everything can be reversed.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-way_function
Well, some jew-hating guy from Iran just recently did have to "bow" in capitulation.
Will someone with technical knowledge close to the Administration please inform Barr and Trump that Apple can't unlock these iPhones. They are intentionally designed so that nobody but the individual or organization that owns them has the 'key'. There is only 1 option - 3rd party hackers like Cellebrite exploiting flaws.
The other 'option' that is discussed (the big argument) is creating a back door into iOS, which NONE of us want Apple to do. Even if Apple were to create an official back door into iOS encryption (which destroys the concept of security), it would do NO good in this case, because you first need access to the device before you can update the OS on it!!
The other 'option' that is discussed (the big argument) is creating a back door into iOS, which NONE of us want Apple to do. Even if Apple were to create an official back door into iOS encryption (which destroys the concept of security), it would do NO good in this case, because you first need access to the device before you can update the OS on it!!
This is Tim Apple's biggest test yet. I thought the Govt. has that tool from an Israeli Co, that could unlock I phones? Is this no longer working under iOS 13? Does Apple really have the ability to do this if the user was not backing anything up in a cloud service? 
I would say that doing it at all is a slippery slope. It's like giving your cat a treat. They'll expect it from now on.
Just more proof of how little Donnie actually knows. It's amazing that this guy is president.
It's more amazing that after 3 years and 15000+ lies, that half of America will still vote for him today if an election were held.
ah yes, the “I don’t know anything about his, but I assume I’m correct argument.”
based on what do you think Apple is lying?
It's hard to know what Trump is thinking. He has a mixture of genius, ignorance, ego issues, and manipulation that make his reasoning opaque.
For all we know, this is just a ploy to get Apple to announce a manufacturing facility in the U.S Or maybe he's in a fight with Cook. Or maybe he just doesn't understand this stuff. Who knows?
For all we know, this is just a ploy to get Apple to announce a manufacturing facility in the U.S Or maybe he's in a fight with Cook. Or maybe he just doesn't understand this stuff. Who knows?
I realize I am probably in the minority here but I like President Trump. However, I disagree with him on this issue. I hope Apple stands firm like they have done in the past and continues to protect the privacy of their customers instead of implementing any type of back door into our devices.
Thing is, it won't be just these few major crimes that want access, once you open the floodgates, everyone will want you to do it for them because you did it for someone else.
Here in the UK, we have RIPA, a law that when introduced, would only affect those involved in serious criminal activity. It's since been used for cases of dog fouling, and checking to dee if people live in the correct school catchment area. Mission creep.
Here in the UK, we have RIPA, a law that when introduced, would only affect those involved in serious criminal activity. It's since been used for cases of dog fouling, and checking to dee if people live in the correct school catchment area. Mission creep.
I figure they have, but they want Apple to make it a lot easier and asking under the cover of law and order makes them think Apple might bow to public pressure.
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We are not a smart country, on the whole.
Painful to see it play out, especially with something so important like privacy.