They pay the legal amount, maybe some citizens shouldn't try to cheat the system then we can discuss.
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Donald Trump Tells Tim Cook He'll Offer Apple 'Very Large Tax Cut' to Make Products in America
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Can you show me one single Mac Pro buyer that is on record saying that the high price is ok because they are made in the U.S.?
I don't understand why holding multinational corporations to account must be pre-empted by fixing the tax system on individuals. I'd like both to be fixed, but one is orders of magnitude more tax revenue than the other.
I don't insist on repairing the hole in my tire before I replace the destroyed transmission....
Well, as soon as the corporate tax rate is lowered to level of Ireland, Apple will be gladly paying their taxes on international sales.
"No, you don't understand. I have the best tax cuts you've ever seen. There's no problems with these tax cuts, I'm telling you!"
The congress and the senate are to be blamed for not fixing the tax system, until then no one even companies shouldn't pay a dime extra to the government.
That's what I'm saying about Apple biting the bullet. Eventually, some of those chip manufacturers would open up facilities in the USA, or Apple would deal with ones that are already here (a dying breed right now). It's about moving everything, not just the assembly plant.
Also it's not just about the pride of saying it's made in the USA. It means more jobs and money for the American economy. It means more visibility and accountability in the supply chain. Et cetera, et cetera. I'd rather have a smaller workforce and smaller taxes paid by Apple in the USA than a larger workforce and tax avoidance in other countries.
I definitely agree that local governments are far more important and useful than state and federal governments. This is because local governments operate much closer to their actual constituents and so can use public money in ways more tailored to the needs of individual communities.
These jobs aren't coming back.
They're not even going to exist in China for too much longer. It's getting cost-effective to automate, even there.
An iPhone factory in the US will be WAY fewer jobs than people are imagining. It's not going to be an assembly line with thousands of people putting things together for minimum wage (and do we even want those jobs back?). It's going to be a mostly automated plant with a few human supervisors and engineers to repair things.
They're not even going to exist in China for too much longer. It's getting cost-effective to automate, even there.
An iPhone factory in the US will be WAY fewer jobs than people are imagining. It's not going to be an assembly line with thousands of people putting things together for minimum wage (and do we even want those jobs back?). It's going to be a mostly automated plant with a few human supervisors and engineers to repair things.
Yes, the corporate owned and operated Congress is to blame. That doesn't change the fact that since the days of Eisenhower the nation budget was previously about 1/3 corporate tax funded, while today it hovers around 7% leaving us schmucks to make up the difference. They've systemically made sure that the middle class subsidizes big business while profits are at record levels.
Time to cut the ********, this is a class war between the corporatists and everyone else, and we've been on the losing end for 40+ years.
You do realize that as of 2015 Foxconn employed like 1.3 MILLION people right?
Obviously manufacturing will get increasingly automated over time regardless, but it may as well be Americans maintaining the machines.
And where are all these unemployed, educated, skilled workers? Does any one state have these people in numbers? And what will they do mid season when manufacturing is scaled back? And all of those jobs in the supply chain. Move them here? Because the majority of iPhone labor is in the supply chain.
For corporate profits to be enjoyed by a human person, they have to show up on that that person's income sheet.
Again, economy doesn't respond to what people "want to do." It moves with change, and we can either be a part of it, or be left behind.
I want to make $200,000 a year selling lemonade. Not going to happen. The economy has evolved, people need to develop or find a new skill set and adapt.
Move forward.
I think it's inevitable that manufacturing will return to the US in part; I don't think it will occur in the way anyone hopes though. I see the world moving to geographic diversification of manufacturing where there are multiple lines creating product in multiple continents reducing the need for product to ride on ships or planes to reach their destination. I think this is going to come via automation though so comparatively fewer jobs will come along with those plants. Robotic automation is getting cheaper and better at a pretty rapid pace. We'll continue to chase around the globe for the cheapest human labor for another eight to ten years (ultimately landing in sub-saharan Africa) but by then we'll see factories that are almost fully automated with a core group of monitoring and maintenance workers (both of which will require high education and skill sets). My belief is that a return of a large base of manufacturing jobs to the US is a pipe-dream; and I don't even think that's a bad thing, I believe we should embrace that and move our investments (of time, thought, and capital) to building up a work force that can handle the higher skilled tasks coming instead of putting tab A in slot B for an eight hour shift.
Good then high labor costs in America is no longer a reason to stay in Asia.
Ha! Touché. Personally I only know a few Mac Pro owners, but none of them had issues with the price of their machines. They are all well-off creative professionals. That said, ALL of them have expressed displeasure with the lack of new hardware
Not when you play the stock bonus game, while at the same time wasting billions in stock buybacks that serve only to artificially inflate stock price.