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Done with Macs

Zenithal said:
Ah. Know of any close to California? I've flirted the idea with building a quad Xeon setup and slapping on Windows Server for personal use. But my research says it's more cost effective in the long run to grab the highest clocked and highest core Xeons you can budget for. I'm on IB-E at the moment and it's a dead socket unless I go used for better parts.
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superbiiz.com is based in San Jose. They seem to have the best selection and pricing. You can also try Newegg in Southern CA. Supermicro has a lot of options so it all depends on your budget and requirements. I wanted the most versatility and bang for the buck in a single socket since it's out of my own pocket so it worked out great.
 
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I must admit a long time ago I say Mac as the stylish but very expensive rival to the pc, you'd get a great looking computer but lose out on advances others were able to encorporate far quicker, they went a long way to work on both, technology was increased, how you used the equipment and ease of use made it very competitive and the desirable alternative, I feel much more at home on a mac than using Windows these days, I can't stand that Windows Widget friendly desktop, it's hard on the eyes for my tastes. Apple even then still the pricey option but at least competitive.

This latest release was impressing me up until price came into play, I suspect that the windows alternatives will equally creep up in price at such a rate that it won't seem so outlandish in years to come but still less so the new additions, but to push up the price by £250 on a dated piece of non updated technology is a real kick to those who aspire to have apple products especially those who held off on buying a new pro until the update, probably with a budget in mind now ending up over £250 short or extra out of pocket for zero gain. Never seen anything like that in the past.

I was offered a laptop to aid me in my masters course i'm currrently studying, was about to buy the 13 retina macbook pro for 1k but then held off due to this impending new release. I was priced out of the fancy new options so was happy to go in for the older choice that i mention above. To hear the price change pissed me off beyond belief, i was lucky and ran over to a John Lewis that had the existing prices still intact if only for a day longer and bought the laptop at the old price. Though I still lost out on the 10% education discount that would have made it 900 instead which in light of recent changes would be an excellent deal. I wish I hadn't known about the new releases and just got it at the time, very happy with my new pro and it will serve me well, but it was a lesson learned today for sure.

So many of these rumour and leak sites suggested that there would have been a base model released at the same price as existing models, from the looks of it, even if you account for 'brexit' the new base model sits around £250 higher than the increased price older macbooks, so that information was completely off, better information and I'd have bought a macbook pro weeks ago and not bothered with this at all.
 
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mmarcus178 said:
Our whole house is Apple ecosystem. We've used nothing but Apple pc's for well over a decade and I've been waiting to see what the MBP offerings would look like. What Apple put out there today is simply insulting.

I use my laptop for work, as does my wife. I don't need a silly emoji bar, though it doesn't really bother me. What I need is functionality (power/speed, battery life, portability, longevity, comfort) and a price that makes sense as a value proposition. The combination of fewer ports, a crappier keyboard, and price gauging for minor upgrades (RAM, HD) is not acceptable.

We'll be just fine using iphones and Windows laptops from now on and I'll be giving a serious look to dumping my Apple stock at some point. They've abandoned what made them a company and brand I attached to.
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Four Thunderbolt 4 ports is nothing to scoff at. If they double as the new USB and power then we only lost one port. I'd like to have a true magsafe power port and the four thunderbolt 4 ports. I won't be buying this variant but down the road when it is time to upgrade I'll consider it. Although to be honest the Razer Blade Pro that was announced looks very exciting too.

We'll see.

My bigger concern is that there was no announcement for the Mac Pro, iMac or Mac Mini.
 
timdafweak said:
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Like everyone here, I am quite vested in the Apple ecosystem. .....
As MaFlynn said, I am not done with Apple, it seems like Apple is done with me. I feel a sense of loss. </morose>
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Serves us right for trusting our computing and mobile needs to one company!
I was afraid to admit it before cause I never thought this will happen but people were right...always best to be invested in an ecosystem that presents choice.
Windows and Android are better ecosystems cause they give us choice.

Today, the bean counter, on a whim, decided to increase the prices of the MBP.
I think he has already done that to the iPhones but looking at the MBP, maybe not.
The anniversary edition of the iPhone might go the full length in insulting my intelligence me with their pricing structure.

All this to and fro between Windows/Mac, Android/iOS has itself cost me a couple of grand over the last year.
I think I am brain dead.
 
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Yeah, it sucks about the extension cable, my Retina MacBook didn't come with one either. I just took the one from my MacBook Air and am using that, but it does feel like apple has been slowly removing things over the years.
 
It pains me to have to look for other options -- esp since I run an office with 5 various macs (all 2011 - 2013 minis, the last good ones IMO, quad i7/ 16gb ram/ 2ssd non glued etc). There is NO WAY we could afford to buy sealed up non upgradeable anything, and the mac Pro was never the worthy investment the previous aluminum battleship was.

I'm starting to wonder whether too many of the designers and top decision makers at Apple are billionaires, to the point of having no idea that a lot of people may balk at spending $3k+ and not be able to just shell out for dongle after dongle or replace all your external HDs and USB keys and digital cameras etc just like that. When they were still close to their roots, they probably sympathized with Pro users a lot more -- they probably still appreciated that a couple of legacy ports would help less well off mac users and mac-using businesses move forward.

Otherwise, I fear they've decided that their computers are for rich people, period. Screw you if you're so crazy poor that you can't just go replace your whole setup.

Whatever happened to "we want the apps sold in the app store and music sold on itunes to be made on macs"?? It has actually come to pass that Microsoft devices now make stuff for the app store and itunes ... So sad.
 
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Windows can't creep up in prices. There are too many others offering the same thing. If a few do creep up then they can forget about their revenues. Switching to alternatives is just too easy in the Windows world.
 
Ghost31 said:
Isn't that the like...super performance version though? I thought they still sold the other one without the performance base?
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Well, thats the one that can be seen as a competitor to the new 15" MBP. In that regards, its interesting to compare the prices.
 
alex2792 said:
Uh, where did you get that from? Windows 10 gets free updates, maybe you're thinking about Office 365 subscription?
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Nope, definitely going to charge for Windows, as mentioned in an earlier post maybe only to enterprise.
 
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