Um no. The iPad connects at 54mbit over G mode on either the first-gen or second-gen dual-band TC. And how is the iPad "supposed" to get 72mbps max? Did you read that somewhere?
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Don't bother with wireless N on the iPad unless you're really close to your router.
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Um no. The iPad connects at 54mbit over G mode on either the first-gen or second-gen dual-band TC. And how is the iPad "supposed" to get 72mbps max? Did you read that somewhere?
I explained already in my previous post. The iPad only have two antennas, this is from iFixit teardown and the FCC filings. Two antennas means max 150Mbps can be transmitted each way. Depending on which chipset it uses and the encoding, the throughput rate is max 72Mbps to 130Mbps, unless your test was not done correctly, it suggest iPad uses a certain encoding that has encoding overhead that reduce the throughput to ~72Mbps. The reason your iMac/Macbook connects at 300Mbps is that they come with more antennas.
OK yes. I understand this VERY well. It's just very odd that wireless N is so much flakier than G, when my other system function perfectly. It's also odd that it only connects at max 39mbit with a first-gen dual-band TC vs 72mbit with the second-gen dual-band TC, given that all my other N devices connect at a max 300mbit if possible and close by. So why the 39mbit/72mbit disparity? I don't want to hear "it's because the first-gen dual-band TC sucks." Because it doesn't, and no other devices have that issue.
Anyway, my original statement stands, and that's all I've been saying: 2.4Ghz G is better for the iPad than 5Ghz N when some rooms away from the base station. 54mbit consistent with G 2.4ghz is a lot better than 10-40mbit varying that I've seen with N 5Ghz.
The problem is that you are generalizing your statement to every router on the planet. You have to be specific, that there's an issue with iPad and 1st gen TC and the N 5GHz drops fast the further you move from your 1G/2G TC.
Several people have no problems as already posted in this thread.
More info for you,
http://wirelesslanprofessionals.com/apple-ipad-wi-fi-detailed-analysis/
The probe says one spartial stream and if that's correct, match it up with this table. If it using 5/6 encoding, it's 72.2Mbps max.
I'm just showing the information, not the main topic but i'm sure other people would be curious to know why 72.2 max.
http://wirelesslanprofessionals.com/apple-ipad-wi-fi-detailed-analysis/
The probe says one spartial stream and if that's correct, match it up with this table. If it using 5/6 encoding, it's 72.2Mbps max.
I'm just showing the information, not the main topic but i'm sure other people would be curious to know why 72.2 max.
No, several people *think* they have no problem.
Anyone who has provided actual data has found what I have. Just wanted to weigh in on 5ghz N. I don't have my ipad yet so i can't comment on it specifically but i recently went through 3 different 5ghz N routers and the only constant was that it didn't like walls.
So router placement and how thick your walls are will have a great effect on performance.
My 2.4ghz G/N router always got better and more consistent transfer rates the further away from the router location than any of the 5ghz N routers i tried.
The netgear wndr3700 gave me the best performance but i still ended up going back to my 3yr old d-link dir-655 because of the inconsistent performance i got the further away i was from the router.
I also agree with MikhailT that just because this is your experience doesn't mean that someone with even the exact same router as you won't have a better experience.
There are no absolutes in wireless networking. Well except that all the latest linksys routers suck.
So router placement and how thick your walls are will have a great effect on performance.
My 2.4ghz G/N router always got better and more consistent transfer rates the further away from the router location than any of the 5ghz N routers i tried.
The netgear wndr3700 gave me the best performance but i still ended up going back to my 3yr old d-link dir-655 because of the inconsistent performance i got the further away i was from the router.
I also agree with MikhailT that just because this is your experience doesn't mean that someone with even the exact same router as you won't have a better experience.
There are no absolutes in wireless networking. Well except that all the latest linksys routers suck.
Not with the dual mode Airports or Time Capsules. You just name G/N2.4/N5 different names and connect to whichever one you want to test/use.
I love mine and I refute the comment that you can't connect at 300Mb. My MBP is lying to me then.
No, several people *think* they have no problem.
Perhaps it depends on your definition of a problem. Yes, my iPad connects to my N-only Airport Extreme with a 39 Mb signaling rate. It also downloads fine from the net as fast as my cable modem will go - and do that anywhere in my home.
Maybe that's a problem for you, but I'm certainly not trading the benefits of my N-only configuration just to allow my iPad to run with a 54 Mb rate - something I won't see or benefit from.
A.
I have it connected to 5ghz N.- Via Airport Extreme
But when I go into settings, there is not a thing under IP address lease information or anything. Renewing lease does nothing; yet I am connected.
When I change to the 2.4 band, it picks up a new lease (same IP) and displays all the stats. Changing back to 5ghz again shows the data, but later when I check it becomes blanked out again.
Is this normal?
But when I go into settings, there is not a thing under IP address lease information or anything. Renewing lease does nothing; yet I am connected.
When I change to the 2.4 band, it picks up a new lease (same IP) and displays all the stats. Changing back to 5ghz again shows the data, but later when I check it becomes blanked out again.
Is this normal?
No, not everyone.No, several people *think* they have no problem.
iPad has a massive DHCP software bug, this has been a problem for many of the college campus for this same reason. It should be fixed in a firmware update, I believe the same thing happened with the original iPhone a couple of years back.
Not my experience either. Thanks for posting your very formal and thorough test as fact, however.
you have a hard on for "thorough testing" I see...
Dude....you're trolling. You keep talking about your "data", I see no whitepapers. I see no open emails to Apple to clarify this widespread "problem". You're arguing in circles with only your own speculation. You're coming off as a charlatan.
I suggest you take this up in the Apple support forums.
Dude....you're trolling. You keep talking about your "data", I see no whitepapers. I see no open emails to Apple to clarify this widespread "problem". You're arguing in circles with only your own speculation. You're coming off as a charlatan.
I suggest you take this up in the Apple support forums.
Thank you for your contribution. There are two types of people in this thread. Those who recognize that they have the same issue, and those in denial saying "mine is fine" without having tested anything.
By your logic, there's no such thing as an issue till Apple says there is. Clearly I'm a troll, with all my Apple gear.
So what are some of you using to determine the link speed if you do not have a Time Capsule or AirPort Extreme on your network.
With my MBP, I option click the wireless icon in the status bar. As an example, I am currently 216 and one floor above my Linksys AP in an old 1910 home.
I am running wireless-n 5GHz network and forcing a 40MHz width.
All other wireless devices on my network are using the G antenna in the AP.
With my MBP, I option click the wireless icon in the status bar. As an example, I am currently 216 and one floor above my Linksys AP in an old 1910 home.
I am running wireless-n 5GHz network and forcing a 40MHz width.
All other wireless devices on my network are using the G antenna in the AP.
Thank you for your contribution. There are two types of people in this thread. Those who recognize that they have the same issue, and those in denial saying "mine is fine" without having tested anything.
By your logic, there's no such thing as an issue till Apple says there is. Clearly I'm a troll, with all my Apple gear.
Did you read my reply? Present your whitepaper clearly showing all of your data and methods of testing. Until then you are are relying on anecdotal conjecture. I want to believe
Did you read my reply? Present your whitepaper clearly showing all of your data and methods of testing. Until then you are are relying on anecdotal conjecture. I want to believe
Good grief. I explained myself well enough, and everyone here with a Time Capsule who's tested my theories have reported the EXACT same thing. At this point, I honestly don't care what you believe or don't believe.
OP, I have the first generation simultaneous dual-band AirPort Extreme, and I understand what youre talking about.
Ill test mine and let you know Friday when I get my iPad 3G.
So, the max for 1st generation simultaneous dual-band AirPort Extreme/Time Capsules with the iPad is 32 mbps?
By the way for those that dont understand what the OP is talking about, if you own an AirPort Extreme/Time Capsule go into AirPort Utility -> Manual Setup -> Advanced -> Logs and Statistics -> Wireless Clients.
Youll see your different devices MAC addresses, signal strength, noise ratio and transfer rates.
Given the widespread Wi-fi issues, there could be an issue with the iPad (probably a software issue) and those particular Apple routers.
Ill test mine and let you know Friday when I get my iPad 3G.
So, the max for 1st generation simultaneous dual-band AirPort Extreme/Time Capsules with the iPad is 32 mbps?
By the way for those that dont understand what the OP is talking about, if you own an AirPort Extreme/Time Capsule go into AirPort Utility -> Manual Setup -> Advanced -> Logs and Statistics -> Wireless Clients.
Youll see your different devices MAC addresses, signal strength, noise ratio and transfer rates.
Given the widespread Wi-fi issues, there could be an issue with the iPad (probably a software issue) and those particular Apple routers.
Not sure why you'd phrase it that way (pretty strange on your part).
I guess making baseless comments are the norm here, apparently?
39mbit max with a TC dual-band 1st gen. 72mbit max with a TC dual-band 2nd gen. Both over 5Ghz N.
I just got a brand new Apple Airport Extreme! Man this router rocks. I have tried Dlink and Linksys...all of them suck compared to the Apple Airport Extreme. I got the current version.
I just found out by going through the settings that you can extend the wireless N network if you have another airport extreme or Time Capsule on your network. Nice!
I got a two story house, so I figure I put the Airport Extreme upstairs, and then get another one and put it downstairs, and extend the network to the one downstairs. My computer and internet connection is upstairs in my computer room. I heard the time Capsules had hard drive problems so I will just plug in external harddrives to the airport extremes.
Loving this router!
I just found out by going through the settings that you can extend the wireless N network if you have another airport extreme or Time Capsule on your network. Nice!
I got a two story house, so I figure I put the Airport Extreme upstairs, and then get another one and put it downstairs, and extend the network to the one downstairs. My computer and internet connection is upstairs in my computer room. I heard the time Capsules had hard drive problems so I will just plug in external harddrives to the airport extremes.
Loving this router!
Good grief. I explained myself well enough, and everyone here with a Time Capsule who's tested my theories have reported the EXACT same thing. At this point, I honestly don't care what you believe or don't believe.
You explained yourself well enough? Good riddance.
I see a lot of jibber jabber here. What I don't see is any definitive information confirming or denying the OP's claims. I don't doubt the possibility exists, but not even some lousy screenshots to back up the claim? Let's establish that this anomaly exists and then look for answers. Until then...
