This is the very definition of a stupid answer. "I don't have this problem so it must not exist." Frankly, nobody cares.
Unfortunately, the iPads WiFi issues are well known. Hopefully the next software update will fix it.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Don't bother with wireless N on the iPad unless you're really close to your router.
- Thread starter WilliamG
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
This is the very definition of a stupid answer. "I don't have this problem so it must not exist." Frankly, nobody cares.
Unfortunately, the iPads WiFi issues are well known. Hopefully the next software update will fix it.
For the record, my 'pad is keeping a much more stable connection once I configured my Belkin N router for G only wireless. I've four wireless devices on our network, which were okay for the most part prior to this. Yet my ipad was occasionally dropping and reconnecting with fluctuating speeds, sometimes stalling all together in safari. Oddly enough it seems to achieve better transfer rates (using speedtest.net and cnet's bandwidth meter) and has yet to show the "reconnecting..." alert since. I also use WPA2 and a static IP address for all devices (DHCP has always been messy for me, even before). Hopefully apple will include a fix in the first software update, but I'm content for the time being. I know there's many variables at play in any network, but thanks to the OP for this suggestion nonetheless.
My anecdotal testing results in a 2800 square foot home in a rural area.
MacBook is an Early 2007 model with 802.11n software upgrade.
iPad is the 3G model.
Both items are configured to connect in 802.11n (5Ghz) mode.
Router is AirPort Extreme (Simultaneous Dual-Band, Early 2009) and is configured in 802.11n (5Ghz) and 802.11b/g/n modes with WPA2 protection. Separate 5Ghz network name option is NOT set.
Office (Room with Router)
MacBook, -41/-96/216 [Signal, Noise, Rate]
iPad, -64/-96/39
Living Room (Next Room over from Router)
MacBook, -58/-96/216
iPad, -71/-96/39
Back Bedroom (Farthest room away from Router)
MacBook, -71/-96/13 [Signal strength low, but able to connect in Safari]
iPad, -89/-96/6 [Signal strength too low to connect in Safari]
Bonus Room (Opposite end of house and on second level above Router)
MacBook, -65/-96/78
iPad, -85/-86/20
MacBook is an Early 2007 model with 802.11n software upgrade.
iPad is the 3G model.
Both items are configured to connect in 802.11n (5Ghz) mode.
Router is AirPort Extreme (Simultaneous Dual-Band, Early 2009) and is configured in 802.11n (5Ghz) and 802.11b/g/n modes with WPA2 protection. Separate 5Ghz network name option is NOT set.
Office (Room with Router)
MacBook, -41/-96/216 [Signal, Noise, Rate]
iPad, -64/-96/39
Living Room (Next Room over from Router)
MacBook, -58/-96/216
iPad, -71/-96/39
Back Bedroom (Farthest room away from Router)
MacBook, -71/-96/13 [Signal strength low, but able to connect in Safari]
iPad, -89/-96/6 [Signal strength too low to connect in Safari]
Bonus Room (Opposite end of house and on second level above Router)
MacBook, -65/-96/78
iPad, -85/-86/20
Here is my results with my non-simultaneous airport extreme (model MB053LL/A) set to 5ghz only mode:
That is with the iPad sitting right next to the router (iMac is 3 feet away from router. AppleTV is down the hall in the bedroom). Next one is with my iPad in the same room as the AppleTV:
While using the iPad in the bedroom I have had it fail to load pages sometimes or hang until it picks up a better signal. Seems to fluctuate quite a bit. I installed a airport express down stairs to fix my connection issues cause downstairs (2story) I had bad connection issues with speeds very very slow and sometimes not connecting at all. I have a linksys wireless g access point as a separate wireless network for my 802.11g devices. I've been tempted to switch the aes to the 802.11n (b/g compatible) settings but just haven't gotten around to messing with it. Might have to try it to see if I get anything better.
That is with the iPad sitting right next to the router (iMac is 3 feet away from router. AppleTV is down the hall in the bedroom). Next one is with my iPad in the same room as the AppleTV:
While using the iPad in the bedroom I have had it fail to load pages sometimes or hang until it picks up a better signal. Seems to fluctuate quite a bit. I installed a airport express down stairs to fix my connection issues cause downstairs (2story) I had bad connection issues with speeds very very slow and sometimes not connecting at all. I have a linksys wireless g access point as a separate wireless network for my 802.11g devices. I've been tempted to switch the aes to the 802.11n (b/g compatible) settings but just haven't gotten around to messing with it. Might have to try it to see if I get anything better.
Your iPad performs like any of our iPads here. If you're close to your N router, you'll have no issues. If you're a few rooms away, wireless G will be more consistent, whether you notice it or not.
also just for ***** and giggles here is what my stats look like when connected downstairs to the airport express:
(the airport express is hardwired through a patch panel to the aes upstairs) Notice the 150 rate when connected to the airport express and only 39 with the aes.....
(the airport express is hardwired through a patch panel to the aes upstairs) Notice the 150 rate when connected to the airport express and only 39 with the aes.....
I, too, think that you are right about this. Airport Utility reports that my iPad is connecting to my Time Capsule as an n client at a rate of 72mbit. In stark contrast, though, an Apple TV and an Airport Express unit, which is configured to be a part of my primary wireless network, both have a rate of 130. Still, the iPad's 72 is not bad because my PS3, which has a g wireless connection, connects at only 54. As somebody else noted, though, these numbers are largely meaningless because they are all significantly faster than the fastest Internet connection.
also just for ***** and giggles here is what my stats look like when connected downstairs to the airport express:
(the airport express is hardwired through a patch panel to the aes upstairs) Notice the 150 rate when connected to the airport express and only 39 with the aes.....
That is very interesting, and goes against other people's theories about the antennae in the iPad. You get 150 when connected to the Airport Express....
I just got my 3G yesterday but I have been watching this thread because I have a wireless N router. I'm sorry that some are having problems but relieved that I don't have any. I am a good forty feet from my router with two walls between us. This thing picks up the signal better than my iPhone 3GS does. and in my master bedroom my iphone struggles to find the signal but this iPad has full reception.
I use a Netgear router if that matters or helps. Please let me know if I can provide any info that may help.
I use a Netgear router if that matters or helps. Please let me know if I can provide any info that may help.
Is your iPad connecting via 802.11n though cause your iPhone can only do b/g not n
Actually, my home internet is 30mbit.
In any case, my point is that there seems to be NO benefit to wireless N (aside from running on the 5Ghz band, of course). I've found wireless G to give me a consistent 54mbit, whereas wireless N is only giving me 29mbit at the same location in my house.
Read this and weep. I get this every day or about 98% of max speeds:
http://www.welho.fi/Privateusers/InternetAndTelephone/tabid/783/Default.aspx
It's good to be an American working in Finland. Let me know when you catch up.
Good grief. I explained myself well enough, and everyone here with a Time Capsule who's tested my theories have reported the EXACT same thing. At this point, I honestly don't care what you believe or don't believe.
Universal translation on: "I can't back up anything I've said with anything factual. Come on guys believe me. Honest"
Universal translator off
Attachments
As a relative Mac Newbie, could someone point me to where this signal log is accessed?
Never mind; I found it.
Never mind; I found it.
More sauce for the goose.
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...hows_apple_using_lcd_frame_as_an_antenna.html
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...hows_apple_using_lcd_frame_as_an_antenna.html
Congratulations for not reading what we're talking about.
My iMac connects at 300mbit, so does my MacBook Pro, and my Airport Express. What's YOUR point? And others have supported my findings with their own.
So why don't you go read the thread from the beginning.
And congratulations that your Mac connects at 300mbit. So does mine. We're talking about the iPad, here. The iPad. Got it?
Congratulations for not reading what we're talking about.
And others have supported my findings with their own.
So why don't you go read the thread from the beginning.
And congratulations that your Mac connects at 300mbit. So does mine. We're talking about the iPad, here. The iPad. Got it?
Go read your own post #17.
You said no one connects at 300mbps. Your own words. Got it?
Until there is hard empirical evidence your words are no more valid than mine or anyone else here. While you may have experience a certain of data, others might not. Yours is not the final answer. It is just an opinion. Got it?
30 mbit. "snickers"..... Enjoy.....
Yes, nobody is connecting at 300mbit. How do I know this? Well, I've tested several iPad WiFi models, on several routers that are considered "high-end," and found this. Some people I know with iPads (3G and WiFi models) have found the same thing. In fact, if you scour the message boards, you'll find the same.
Is there "hard empirical" evidence? Of course not. But honestly, this is a message board, and the Interwebs. Stop taking it so personally.
Even aside from my claim, what is your claim exactly? What can you provide here?
Thanks for trolling! Have a nice day. Keep snickering..
1. I find it a bit hard to believe that Apple would leave themselves open to something that is easy to prove in a lab. I do not have the equipment nor do you for that matter. In things such as these, it is basically up to US to kind of figure out what is going on. The fact that the N standard has been ratified but not a universal standard rolled out, I suspect that we will all get different results. Example: I had a wifi version (bought just to test and play with until the 3G versions come out) that had no problems connecting or maintaining a connect to my networks (yes networks, as I have two in my house. One with a TC and AEBS, and another with two Airport Express's). All running 5 Ghz on N. My wifi experience has been perfect.
2. I posted a link showing how the antenna in the iPad are placed. Maybe someone with radio experience can pop in to explain the dynamic behavior.
I would say that this is something. Wouldn't you?
Of course. I have the same findings as you. I have no trouble maintaining a connection over N. I do, however, find that the further away I move from the router, the more N 5 suffers, and G 2.4 actually ends up being the more usable network.
I have not had this experience. It could be that I have 2 networks (5 Ghz N-standard) that the iPad can jump to. I have overlapping coverage so the iPad can always jump to the best network when needed.
That is more than likely the case, of course. Turn off the other network, and then you'll see.
I'll give that a try. I might put all networks down onto 2.4 N and see how things shake out.