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The memory constraints of yesteryear are greater than that of today. AKA the improvements now are more incremental in nature. So iPads bought today won't age and slow so quickly. My iPad 2 is painfully slow with iOS 7. My iPad air is very fast. My iPhone 5 is very fast. I believe they will stay that way all the way through iOS 10 or so.
 
I made a comment earlier and i'll say it again. I have an iPad 2 I purchased back in 2012 from Apple as a refurb and I purchased a new Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 back when it was released mid 2011. The Galaxy Tab is pretty much a paperweight and just sputters using Google Chrome.

My iPad 2 runs really smooth with iOS 7.0.4 and it's about a 3 year old machine.
 
I made a comment earlier and i'll say it again. I have an iPad 2 I purchased back in 2012 from Apple as a refurb and I purchased a new Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 back when it was released mid 2011. The Galaxy Tab is pretty much a paperweight and just sputters using Google Chrome.

My iPad 2 runs really smooth with iOS 7.0.4 and it's about a 3 year old machine.

I haven't touched a Samsung tablet. They needed to step things up long before the upcoming ones this year. We'll see how those offerings fair soon.
 
Your mileage may vary
I have an iPad 3 that I upgraded to iOS 7 without a fresh install and I have no problems at all

Me too, as well as my wife....no issues what so ever on both ipad3's In fact her's run even better on ios7.
 
My 1st gen ipad 3G is still working fine and the battery still lasts about 6 hours per charge. Not bad for a nearly 4-year-old device.

BUT, the iPad Air i just bought is so much faster. and the cameras, facetime, iPhoto, pages, etc, etc, are totally worth it ... to me.

I don't know about you. 1st gen. iPad runs iOS 5 pretty terrible. It was nightmare to use. I sold my iPad 1 for $50 because i wanted to get ride this crap as soon as possible. I brought an iPad mini first gen. back then. It was night and day.
 
I also believe taking care of them goes a long in making them last longer and run smoother. For me, I never charge unless below 20%. I never throw it on the charger and let it charge overnight. I charge in the evening before bed and remove it once it's fully charged. And as much as a pain in the butt it is, every 6 months I set myself a reminder and I do a factory reinstall without backing up first. I just manually keep track of apps and such and put everything back on myself. I've found this tends to make things run much better. Whether my way is the right way, well I don't know. It works for me.

I hate to say it, but that whole procedure smells like Windows XP, no thank you. That level of user maintenance should not be required in this day and age.
 
I haven't touched a Samsung tablet. They needed to step things up long before the upcoming ones this year. We'll see how those offerings fair soon.

The Samsung Galaxy TabPro looks pretty decent this year. 2K screen, 3G RAM, SnapDragon 800 processor, LTE...
 
I hate to say it, but that whole procedure smells like Windows XP, no thank you. That level of user maintenance should not be required in this day and age.

I agree seems like overkill :D i still have an ipad 2 which runs perfectly well on IOS7 and the battery is fine considering it gets left on charge overnight all the time.
 
These iPad's get outdated too fast. I bought my iPad 3 about 1,5 years ago and it's too slow already. It stutters during normal operations. However it manages to run the latest games like Infinity blade III supersmooth, so it has plenty of power for normal operations like typing or scrolling. It's just Apple crippling iPad 3 with the latest OS.

Atleast on a Macbook Pro from 4 years ago, I can install Windows 8 or go back to an older OS X if Apple cripples my 4 years old MBP with a new operating system. ( many users did go back to snow leopard when Apple released OS X Lion for example)

Just buy a MBA, 13" rMBP or an ultrabook if you need something super portable since they last much longer. You think the latest iPad runs great now, just wait and see in 2 years on the latest iOS how bad it will run.

You shouldn't have updated to iOS 7, the problem is not the ipads, it's the os
 
I have an iPad 2. Been using it about 3 years, works just fine.
 
I agree that iPad's get outdated too fast. That is particularly true of the iPad 3, which was replaced within 6 months with the iPad 4, with its faster A6X chip, faster CPU, faster GPU, and availability with greater memory.

I was an iPad 3 customer and like many I feel ripped off.

But at present my iPad 3 runs iOS 7 just fine. However, I doubt its lifespan will be as long as that of the iPad 4.
 
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These iPad's get outdated too fast. I bought my iPad 3 about 1,5 years ago and it's too slow already. It stutters during normal operations. However it manages to run the latest games like Infinity blade III supersmooth, so it has plenty of power for normal operations like typing or scrolling. It's just Apple crippling iPad 3 with the latest OS.

Atleast on a Macbook Pro from 4 years ago, I can install Windows 8 or go back to an older OS X if Apple cripples my 4 years old MBP with a new operating system. ( many users did go back to snow leopard when Apple released OS X Lion for example)

Just buy a MBA, 13" rMBP or an ultrabook if you need something super portable since they last much longer. You think the latest iPad runs great now, just wait and see in 2 years on the latest iOS how bad it will run.


I do agree laptop > iPad, but iPad over any non mac laptop, however iPads doesn't get outdated that fast, my 1st gen iPad still runs okay, not very fast, but okay. And i can still use it for a lot of things that you use an iPad for :p.
 
I do agree laptop > iPad, but iPad over any non mac laptop, however iPads doesn't get outdated that fast, my 1st gen iPad still runs okay, not very fast, but okay. And i can still use it for a lot of things that you use an iPad for :p.

Any non Mac laptop can also do lots more than iPad or even MacBooks... I do not see how iPad over any non Mac laptops
 
Any non Mac laptop can also do lots more than iPad or even MacBooks... I do not see how iPad over any non Mac laptops


Yeah, they windows pc can sure do more than an iPad , but its just that I'm so used to apples mac os x, that i refuse to use windows, and would rather use iOS.
 
Any non Mac laptop can also do lots more than iPad or even MacBooks... I do not see how iPad over any non Mac laptops

Better yet, MBA/MBP with Windows 7 VM or dual boot.

As for iPad 1, the OS runs smoothly enough with a fresh reinstall. Sadly, most apps and web pages even tax it out pretty badly. But it unlocks, swipes around, deals with folders, and switches apps all quicker than the Air (until 7.1, apparently). ;)
 
I got to see an iPad Air today with a friend, he has it in an Apple case on it. I had to ask him if this is an iPad Air or not. The point of the story is that , iPad Air weight is probably not that huge like the media made it look.

I own an iPad 3
 
You mean Kit Kat? I've heard that 4.4 helped wake up a lot of devices yeah, I just remember that so many of them (including the N7) were slowed to a crawl after a year.



Plus there's also Android's gnarly tendency to drop support for its devices after about a year. Apple's still pushing out updates for the 4s and that came out in 2011. You're not gonna find ANY Android phones that old still getting updates except maybe the Galaxy Nexus.



I'm no Apple apologist, I think the brand has loads of problems in their model and design, but I think between them and Android it's a better arrangement unless you're on a budget.


So the only Android device that holds it's own against an iOS device is the only fair comparison?

Let's face it if HTC, Samsung etc were allowed to make devices that ran iOS we'd see the same thing with newer devices still running iOS 6 or something.

Sometimes updates aren't worth it too IMO. The only thing gained by the iPhone 4 getting iOS 7 was tremendous amount of lag.
 
At this point, I honestly think there are diminishing returns. I see the technology on the latest Apple devices lasting quite a bit. I mean what requirements could the next iOS versions require? The only thing that makes me nervous is them forcing people to upgrade hardware based on RAM requirements when it really isn't necessary.
 
These iPad's get outdated too fast. I bought my iPad 3 about 1,5 years ago and it's too slow already. It stutters during normal operations. However it manages to run the latest games like Infinity blade III supersmooth, so it has plenty of power for normal operations like typing or scrolling. It's just Apple crippling iPad 3 with the latest OS.

Atleast on a Macbook Pro from 4 years ago, I can install Windows 8 or go back to an older OS X if Apple cripples my 4 years old MBP with a new operating system. ( many users did go back to snow leopard when Apple released OS X Lion for example)

Just buy a MBA, 13" rMBP or an ultrabook if you need something super portable since they last much longer. You think the latest iPad runs great now, just wait and see in 2 years on the latest iOS how bad it will run.

In two years I'll have a new iPad anyway.:rolleyes:
 
These iPad's get outdated too fast. I bought my iPad 3 about 1,5 years ago and it's too slow already. It stutters during normal operations.

Full disclosure: I stopped writing after the quoted paragraph above.

I owned the iPad and iPad 2 concurrently, and while the iPad was slow, I did not find my iPad 2 plodding and slow. As a matter of fact, I only got rid of it because I drank the Apple Kool-Aide, and bought the Air;).

If your iPad 3 stutters during normal operations, it is probably defective because my iPad 2 was still very zippy, and it was a generation older than yours.

I don't feel the need, usually, to buy the latest and greatest tech products --- still have iPhone 4s and it serves my purposes very well. I will, however, pick up the next iPhone. YMMV, of course.
 
I was an iPad 3 customer and like many I feel ripped off.

I was an iPad 3 customer as well, but imagine how ripped off you'd feel now if instead you were a Galaxy Tab or Xoom customer back in March 2012. :eek:

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Apple's products do not exist in a vacuum, and can only be compared against competing products for sale on the market. Instead, too many people mistakenly judge Apple's offerings by a mythical standard which only exists in their mind. For all the iPad's shortcomings and lack of perfection, at the end of the day it's still miles ahead of the competition.

If anyone around here feels upset about Apple's annual incremental iPad improvements, don't blame Apple, blame the competing electronics manufacturers for being so lame. :)
 
I was an iPad 3 customer as well, but imagine how ripped off you'd feel now if instead you were a Galaxy Tab or Xoom customer back in March 2012. :eek:)


Huh? The Xoom came out before the iPad 2 in Feb 2011!!

Last time I used mine it was running Jelly Bean and included all of the features that were included with Jelly Bean (Google Now etc).

The iPad 2 and my iPad 3 are running iOS 7 (poorly I might add, crossing fingers for 7.1) with many features removed.

I love the iPad but that is a very bad example since in reality the Xoom is doing better. And running better since every update has increased performance, after project butter it probably better then it was when it was new. I wish I could say that about my iPad 3.

Let's also not forget the iPad 3 is a bit underpowered for the retina display too.
 
Change is Good

Change is good. We like that.

It's bitter-sweet, but... welcome to the modern world. It is changing faster than ever, and you can only expect more change. Apple is, by far, the most long-lived product company. I can't believe how many people still have an iPhone 4 and complain about it being slow, so they blame Apple. They blame iPhone, and go Samsung because they think Apple is "out to get em'!"

Truth is, that iPhone is what... 3, 4, even 5 years old? Shocker that it is running slow on brand new 64 bit software from 2014. But I guarantee you that the iPhone, and even iPad, WAYYYY outlive any Microsoft tablet/phone and Android - based tablet/phone.

So stop whining about Apple. They haven't screwed you. That iPad 3 hasn't screwed you either. That MacBook Pro from a few years back? Yes, it definitely has more life than an iPad, as it is a full framed computer with a full-framed price tag. But go run a 3 year old MacBook pro with MAX specs next to a Baseline 13" MacBook Pro with Retina Display. The baseline Mac from 2014 will easily outperform it. Simple revolving technology. It's a good thing.

Hope this insight helps.
 
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