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Don't buy intel mbp now ?
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I got a decision to make as well. With a Apple friends/family discount I can get a refurb 16” for 38% off (compared to new, not off the already discounted 15% refurb) and no tax shipped to De. Crazy good deal, but I 100% will be upgrading to mini led and arm. With that kind of discount I shouldn’t expect too much of a resale hit if any in 1-2 yrs right?
looking at the 2.4/2Tb/64gb/5500m
looking at the 2.4/2Tb/64gb/5500m
Selling an intel Apple device in 2 years assuming they move to ARM is on time and working as anticipated, yeah, massive resale hit. Who is going to want a MBP with intel at that point. The resale prices will collapse.
I think that demand should be health for the 16s into the future. There are a huge number of people with 2014s and 2015s that will eventually want to upgrade for more horsepower and the bigger screen size. I am in this demographic myself. Unless, of course, the ARM 16 just blasts it out of the ballpark. But then again, there will be a lot of people that still want Bootcamp and I think that your best bet for Bootcamp is x86.
I think overall this will give some people pause, and if I was in the market for a new machine, I certainly would avoid putting money into a product that a company has basically end of lifed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
All of you folks worried about resale prices obviously don’t need a new computer. That literally has zero consideration in my decision to get a new machine.
I either use them forever, give them away or recycle them. I'm too lazy to advertise, barter and ship a computer.
I second that.
Also people have the option to lease a device for 24 or 36 month at almost 0% leasing rate. Why not go for that?
And the system you upgrade to will have higher performance and lower power consumption. Looking forward to it. Not backwards to Intel.
I haven't had a loan since 2000. Paid off the house back then. Being debt-free is liberating.
To lease is not to loan.
Also you can give back the device after the leasing period and restart with leasing a new device.
It's a monthly payment.
My philosophy is to create streams of payments. Then use those payments to create additional streams that require very little effort. And just enjoy the compounding effect.
Loans and payments are the opposite of that.
If it's a capital item, that is, used to generate revenue, then just buy it up-front.
While normally I would agree - an interest free payment option is much smarter money.
I disagree. If the motivation is to buy more stuff. I would rather get paid for someone to use my cash than spend it on something that's more than what I need. That's why I'm typing this on a 2008 Desktop.
Exactly what I was about to say, so many people considering whether to buy or even sell. All that tells me is that those decisions mean you don't actually need an MBP. And if resale value worries you then you probably are the type that feels a need to keep buying the latest and greatest device no matter what is rather than just using it until it is no use to you anymore.
If you are asking, then absolutely not. The 5600M for people who really need that power for specific uses. It's a very pricy upgrade unless you are getting paid for your graphics intensive work. Holding value is right up there with 'future proofing' Good to spend what makes sense for you budget/performance wise.
Fair enough - but clearly your work is not dependent on a modern computer - something that a lot of folks here rely on, including me. I have a 2016 MBP 15" that is showing it's age bigtime for what I do. My problem is I use windows VMs a lot so I will likely need an Intel machine for some time to come, unless apple has some ace up their sleeve with a solution for their upcoming ARM machines. Do I need a new machine right this second? No but it is time so I guess I'm going to wait to see if the 16" gets a 10th gen i9.
I use five computers: 2008 Dell Studio XPS x2, 2014 MacBook Pro 15, 2015 MacBook Pro 15, 2015 MacBook Pro 13. Between them, they have 18 cores/36 threads, 104 GB of RAM. They work cooperatively together. I work in the cloud with systems ranging from 300 GB/quad-core to 120 cores, 1.5 TB of RAM, 350 TB of storage.
If I lose a machine, I can take my time replacing it and there are lots of options in the new and used markets.
I certainly know it will take a hit. In my situation, I'm saving 38% buying a refurb now and know I will upgrade to miniled/ARM. So I'm trying to guesstimate the loss if any I'll take. I don't expect the 16" to lose over 1/2 it's value in 2 years, but maybe I'm underestimating how many people care about ARM. MBP's typically lose 30-40% between year 1 and 2 off MSRP.
Indeed but that is when they are not transitioning to a completely different chipset.
I think many are, not so much caring about ARM specifically but people believe the hype and that will cause the resale value of intel machines to tank.
I think that people are tired of thermal issues with Macs (outside of the Mac Pro).
That's definitely my advice. No need to worry about "future proofing" since likely within 2-3 years many of us will want to buy the new Macs with Apple Silicon.
even with this move to ARM processor, just now I bought an MBP 16 with radeon pro 5600M because I need this fast machine today 
buy what you need
buy what you need
Everybody should of course do what they want with their money but I sure as heck wouldn’t buy anything Apple that is Intel oriented right now - Unless of course you have absolutely no choice and simply need something right now.
If anything I’d recommend buying something preowned to have as little money on the table as possible.
If anything I’d recommend buying something preowned to have as little money on the table as possible.