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Other Don’t buy the new iPhone 17 !

JCCL said:
Seems quite an aggressive response from a contributor. Ultimately the OP is just giving his opinion, which even if we may disagree it is ultimately just that.
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Just like OP, "contributors" are allowed to their opinion... as long as posters don't violate MR rules, we can basically post what we want... it is pretty much all opinions, nothing else...
 
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I’ll be getting a 17 Pro to replace my 15 Pro.
Partly because the USB-C socket is iffy, partly for the cameras and partly because I can.🤷🏽😂
If anyone is unhappy with that decision then…

“Suck it up buttercup”
😂🤣😂
 
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uacd said:
In all seriousness, there is nothing to disagree on. Same 3nm chip (same chip? Only if you ignore the addition of graphics cores or the pipeline optimizations) for 3 consequitive generations, no new AI features, high price, misleading marketing. I could have called it "s update" but 16 Pro was already "15s", but 17 is not really different from 16, even design of baseline models is same. People who buy it now will probably be biting their nails in a year or so (or shelling same money for upgrade).

Even when reviews come up in 10 days, it will feel even more lackluster, especially if someone compares camera array side-by-side with any iPhone down to 14. And forum is gonna be like "Apple stopped innovating!". Yes, they obviously did, and it didn't happen in a day. They are now coca-cola of tech world: same, bland, unnatural.

I dislike the inconsistency of 17 series, recap from recent forum postings:
- 4K120 only on 17 Pro. Why, only because Apple wants more money? Different lenses, more processing demand
Seriously, what's the reason? 17 and Air are more than capable.
- No speaker on Air. How come? iPhone always had one. Even 16e has one. Def no speaker on a phone
- No ProRAW on Air. Why? Device costs as 16 Pro was a year before. more processing demand - thermal considerations that would affect battery
- No rumored features like Pro Camera app, 8K (aren't iPhones already powerful enough or Apple is simply moving it further for new iPhones? Stop living for rumors
- Air has a featureset of a budget phone yet premium price tag, just for thinness? Tell me you dont know cost of R&D without telling me you dont know the cost of R&D
- Design. People hated it when it was just a rumor, and now they suddenly love it.
Tbh I am ok with design, but I belive people are going to be divided on that;
- Colors. BTW, how come 17 Pro has such a weird color options? People have complained about lack of colors for the Pros for years - omission of Black is a strange one however
I love black, jet black, space gray. Only 3 colors? Weird. I can use case sure, but there are lots of people who won't
- Misleading marketing. Highly anticipated "8x zoom" camera turned out to be...4x, but marketed as "fusion" or "8x". Yes, I saw that iPhone 16 can do impressive digital zoom. But digital zoom must be used as rarely as possible, I would have much preferred real 8x zoom and 16x digital zoom than this Where are you seeing that 8x = 4x? It's an optical zoom

UPD:
- oh, and PWM switcher seems to be confirmed to be exclusive to 17 Pro only. WHY? I mean it should work on any iPhone, not just 17 Pro. Ok, maybe it needs some specific display, but if all 17 series have same display, why it is not available on other phones? So eye health is now 1100$ exclusive? WOW!
- vapor chamber, 17 Pro exclusive. STUPID! 17 and Air are gonna be the most liked devices by young adults and kids: the target audience that actually loves gaming and intensive tasks. They don't wanna pay a lot for a phone but wanna get as much as possible from it. Is that primitive water pipe that expensive so Apple couldn't equip all iPhones with it? And yeah, classic: "Androids had it for years" See comment above about R&D costs. Pro has always been stepping stone for having latest features that Apple offers, and they trickle down to other devices in later years...

UPD2:
- weirdo magsafe battery. No, I mean it looks awesome and should have actually been accessory for every iPhone, but isn't Apple hiding something? I feel that in less than 10 days we will know the bitter truth that Air is prone to overheating much more often than any other iPhone. With more heat comes decreased battery performance. So no intensive tasks for this phone. I would be glad if this isn't the case With the slim size of the Air, of course the battery is going to be less, which your average consumer is not going to be happy with - so they make a magsafe battery exclusively for it - and yes it doesnt work on the other devices because of the size and orientation of the plateau on the other devices. I don't think anyone is arguing that it will be much less optimized on dissipating heat. Apple isnt hiding anything. Enjoy your tinfoil hat!
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Shouldnt feed the trolls, but I'm bored....
 
NotApplicable said:
That's why you buy a cargo van and a Miata, like me ;)
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But is your Miata this awesome??

My daughter with her grandpa, one rad dude 😂

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As much as I don't pay much attention to posts like these, I am kinda tempted to go for base 17 instead of pro max, but I do need a telephoto. I have dogs and filming/photographing them running around a field means I need a zoom. Other wise base 17 all day (especially if it came in the teal of the base 16). I currently have the 17 pro max 512 in blue set up for preorder
 
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robvalentine said:
As much as I don't pay much attention to posts like these, I am kinda tempted to go for base 17 instead of pro max, but I do need a telephoto. I have dogs and filming/photographing them running around a field means I need a zoom. Other wise base 17 all day (especially if it came in the teal of the base 16). I currently have the 17 pro max 512 in blue set up for preorder
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Same here. I have a new member of the family, so baby pictures are important.
 

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jz0309 said:
in other words - never. not a surprise really ...
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I think you don't know that I need to update other apps first, then improve the app a bit, then make the screenshots, upload to the app store connect, add the description, screenshots and everything then submit... Do you think I can do all of this in one day? No...
 
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jz0309 said:
Here you go again... why do you think anyone cares what YOUR opinion about the 17 is?
But whatever, it's the internet, you're not breaking MR rules, you can post your OPINIONS as long as you want, just sad that people react, I'm done
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Some are with me, some are against me... That's life bro
 
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Naraxus said:
So seeing as how you won't be expending the time or energy on ordering the new iPhone will you be finishing that photo app you claimed you were working on and would release since Apple clearly did not release such an app yesterday?
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Yeah working on it bro... I will try to publish as soon as possible, BTW the point is too control ISO, shutter speed, WB and focus... don't expect a lot more...
 
Astuces iOS said:
I think you don't know that I need to update other apps first, then improve the app a bit, then make the screenshots, upload to the app store connect, add the description, screenshots and everything then submit... Do you think I can do all of this in one day? No...
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since you yourself said it would take you a few hours (few means like in the range of 5 or 6 maybe) I guess you are contradicting yourself, again, not surprised.
and so it continues ...

Astuces iOS said:
100h? Lol it can takes me a few but not 100h for this an app similar to Final Cut camera lmao
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You buy what you want. And I’ll buy what I want. Who the hell are you to tell ANYBODY what they should or shouldn’t do with their own money?!
 
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