No you cannot! As an lg screen owner I have come to the conclusion based on these forums that if my screen doesn't have IR now it will definitely have it later. When IR gets so bad Apple will deny me an exchange. I've been told some of the emotions I will experience are anger, regret, sad, butthurt, and many others. My personally life will take a dive and I will live in a depressed state for the rest of my life because of a computer. Also, I have read I should rebel against Apple for making me buy it.
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Dont buy the new MBPr, most of them are flawed.
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No you cannot! As an lg screen owner I have come to the conclusion based on these forums that if my screen doesn't have IR now it will definitely have it later. When IR gets so bad Apple will deny me an exchange. I've been told some of the emotions I will experience are anger, regret, sad, butthurt, and many others. My personally life will take a dive and I will live in a depressed state for the rest of my life because of a computer. Also, I have read I should rebel against Apple for making me buy it.
Irrelevant. You make the claim that "most" rMBPs are flawed, you you offer nothing other than anecdotal support for that claim. As someone else said, there is no statistical analysis at play here to even make such a claim an educated guess - it's nothing more than innuendo and hyperbole.
I'm with ya brother!
I am a very satisfied customer too, if you go to my profile and look up all my posts, I rave about my joy with having maxed out my late 2011 17"MBP. There is much to praise about when you can upgrade the heck out of your computer over time, rather than being 'forced' to upgrade upon purchase - sending a lot of students in 'immediate debt' just one example (that is students who emancipated from living at home).
I am a very satisfied customer too, if you go to my profile and look up all my posts, I rave about my joy with having maxed out my late 2011 17"MBP. There is much to praise about when you can upgrade the heck out of your computer over time, rather than being 'forced' to upgrade upon purchase - sending a lot of students in 'immediate debt' just one example (that is students who emancipated from living at home).
I'm glad you are satisfied. It just sounds like rMBP owners aren't allowed to be satisfied.
As for students and debt... Not sure what the heck that has to do with the rMBP. Apple doesn't make cheap computers. 15" anything starts off at $1800, so regardless if you decide to get cMBP or rMBP you are making fairly important financial decision (more so for some than others). It's the consumer's right and IMO obligation to do their homework when shopping and also to make responsible purchases. If buying a rMBP is going to put you into debt, then I don't think a cMBP would have been any different. Let's not blame the retina for people's money problems too.
Some of us defend the right of people to gradually upgrade their purchase, while others defend a hunk of aluminum. No one is silencing anyone on here, but plenty are very defensive.
Unfortunately, a lot of people talk themselves into buying more computer than they really need and some of them cannot really afford it.
I am at a point in my life (58 years young...) when I can afford any Mac that suits my fancy and pay off my credit card bill every month. One reason that I am able to do so is because I have always purchased only what I needed and I didn't go into debt. If I want something that is more than I can currently afford I wait until I have saved enough money to buy it.
While many of our peers were refinancing their homes in order to finance unnecessary purchases or bought a new home that was more house than they really needed my wife and I paid off our home in 18 years. We live in the first house that we purchased together in 1990. The money we save not having to pay a mortgage bill each month goes into our savings.
Some debt is unavoidable for most of us: a mortgage, car payments and education loans. But every time you are considering taking on debt it is important that you take the time to understand the true cost of that debt and whether or not it is in your best interest to do so. Many people do not do that and it often winds up being a bad decision.
The consuming and saving habits you establish when young can have a huge impact on how well-off you are when you are older. If you live within your means and invest your money wisely it really pays-off in the long run...
I am at a point in my life (58 years young...) when I can afford any Mac that suits my fancy and pay off my credit card bill every month. One reason that I am able to do so is because I have always purchased only what I needed and I didn't go into debt. If I want something that is more than I can currently afford I wait until I have saved enough money to buy it.
While many of our peers were refinancing their homes in order to finance unnecessary purchases or bought a new home that was more house than they really needed my wife and I paid off our home in 18 years. We live in the first house that we purchased together in 1990. The money we save not having to pay a mortgage bill each month goes into our savings.
Some debt is unavoidable for most of us: a mortgage, car payments and education loans. But every time you are considering taking on debt it is important that you take the time to understand the true cost of that debt and whether or not it is in your best interest to do so. Many people do not do that and it often winds up being a bad decision.
The consuming and saving habits you establish when young can have a huge impact on how well-off you are when you are older. If you live within your means and invest your money wisely it really pays-off in the long run...
How long do you think it'll be before the cmbp is not upgradable like the rmbp and what will you do then? I would love to be able to upgrade but I'm not going to not purchase a computer that I want because I can't.
No, I think the problem is that a few here are fixated on an idea, usually negative, which they think must apply for others, and that anyone who says otherwise must be an apologist or fanboy.
Seriously, people have different tastes and standards. If you don't like a particular device, then you don't have to make things up or repeat it continuously in order to justify your dislike to other people. If they share the same view, they'll say so. If not, leave them alone.
It's not about "silence" but about a balance between remarking about something, or going on a campaign to discredit that something.
That is correct.
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I would think the cMBP is close to being phased out and replaced by just the two lines, MBA and rMBP.
The problem with this issue is that Apple uses two different technologies. LG screens are IPS while Samsung panels are PLS. The buyer has no choice at time of purchase. If the Samsung screens are in higher demand and shorter supply as it seems then Apple should make the Samsung panels an option for $100 more.
or they should just stop suing Samsung and let them work in peace so that they can produce more panels
Same applies to all forums--most of the comments are going to be about problems--not from happy customers. I bought my rMBP from Amazon--granted a very small sample of comments--but out of 109 ratings, 73 are 5 star, 15 are 4 star--so at least it seems we Amazon customers are happy.
Exactly this is the very nature of forums, on the polls here 80% - 90% are satisfied, it`s the same every time Apple release a major revision; You can perform the same Google search for any given year the MBP has been in production and come up with a myriad of negative results;
2011 MacBook Pro issues
2010 MacBook Pro issues
2009 MacBook Pro issues
2008 MacBook Pro Issues
2007 MacBook Pro issues
2006 MacBook Pro issues
So employing this logic, one should never buy a Mac "on forums such as this, those with issue, those that believe they have been aggrieved and the "Haters" will always generate the most traffic for nothing more than their own personal motives. My own Retina has no issue: no IR, it runs significantly cooler than my Late 2011 2.4 i7 15" MBP sat right next to it on the same desk, no loss in frame rate, no throttling if it is, it`s not obvious.
What I do see as a loose observation year after year is that those who don't actually own the latest release tend to make the most noise, more so than ever this year with Retina. Apple`s hardware is not perfect, equally it`s not the tragedy that some paint it out to be year on year. If you don't like what Apple produces don't buy it, if you have genuine issue speak with Apple directly, it`s no more complex than that...
I think apple will make an option of having a retina screen or not but have the models exactly the same otherwise, not different like they are now.
Yeah it's a shame we can't upgrade but people that like macs need to get use to it soon.
I thought most people pay off their credit card debt every month. Why would anyone buy an expensive laptop and pay those high interest?
Because in America anyway, that's how most folks buy items. I imagine very few have no debt and pay all credit bills within a month. If you can, great, but I guess you should pay cash and not use a card at all? I enjoy using a credit card with 12 months no interest. No cost to me to use their money.
It's great if you wonder why people use credit to buy things, and you don't have to, but it comes off as sounding elitest. If that's what you want, success! Otherwise your input about how stupid people are to use credit is just some chest pounding that has little value in a forum such as this.
So are you saying ppl who trade in their RMPB are resold to the public without us knowing that it was opened and used and it got all cleaned and placed back in the package? Or anyone here tell me does apple repackage return RMBP's? I would think it would go into a REFURB section to be sold at a lower price even if it was opened 1 day and returned the next day...I SURE DON'T want a OPEN box and rewraped again...I like my LAPTOP NEW and untouched !!
It is illegal in the US for Apple to repackage an opened product as new. It must either be sold as a refurb, used as a replacement (with the customer informed that it is a refurb), or taken apart for spare parts. It would be a major scandal if Apple were selling opened laptops as new. They are not doing this.
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Oh, please. Do you understand the logistical nightmare this would cause on the assembly line and throughout the rest of the manufacturing and sales ecosystem? All for the 0.1% of users who stalk the forums looking for the tiniest flaw in the products.
You also realize that there are reports of poor color profile control and yellow whites on the Samsung displays, right? Oh, no!!! All rMBP's are flawed!!!!
People who say they have no issue with LG. I said something like that too. Right in my face. I was like you guys. But after 3 months, the problem went beyond I expected. Image retention was developed over time. Ability of discharge on pixel seem getting worse over time. I was fine like you are right now.
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People who said the check board screen test is a joke. Well, guess what Apple has its own official test from its engineer department as well. Hahaha
If it becomes a bother down the line, I'll just bring it in to the Apple Store and exchange it when I have the time.
It's not a short ride, but that's all the more reason why it's not a big deal. The big deal is how much use I can make of the computer during those 3 months.
Most Americans who use credit cards do not pay the full balance on their card each month.
A 2011 study found that only 35% of Americans pay off their cards each month; 65% carry a balance.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/03/12/consumers-still-buried-in-credit-card-debt
From what I can tell from MacRumors posts, many people on this forum use some form of credit to finance their Mac purchases. And that more than a few people who actually pay cash are using a considerable portion of their available funds.