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If you lose the $3,500 device you put on your head, I hope at least your wallet has a chain.
Thought the same. If you can't keep track of a $3500 VR headset...

And it's not like people never carry around things this expensive. So many people have been carrying around camera bags for years, for example, with gear collectively worth more than this headset, and no way to track any of it.
 
Yeah, all this revisionist history around iPod is pretty funny. It was a massive hit from go because everyone instantly understood what it was and was able to be using it in a matter of seconds without any instructions whatsoever.

The iPod wasn't an instant hit. It couldn't be since it only supported Macs and it had no iTunes Store.

In its first quarter Apple sold about 125 000 iPods and it took them almost two years to reach 1 milion.
 
It’s the lack of tracking hardware that’s the issue, not the lack of battery.

You have to plug a battery into it for it to actually work, at which point the device would have the opportunity to report “home”.

Complete oversight!

How can you track the device in any meaningful way if it doesn't have power to turn on the radios?

It could use a passive NFC chip but it would require other iPhones to be extremely close to it.
 
That’s not really surprising considering the headset itself literally has not an ounce of power on its own. The thief could just unplug the battery and it’s „dead“

This is so clearly a first generation, even public beta test product. V2 will add internal battery, full Find My, and if they’re smart it’ll remove that pointless front glass.
 
Can you please elaborate on the bolded?


Yeah, like anyone needs that level of accuracy. As if anyone would even NOTICE that the device is a high accuracy RADIO.

For $20 you can get a wrist watch with a quartz movement that will be accurate to a few seconds per year, will last for three or more years on a single battery and doesn’t need an expensive repair if you happen to break it.

So yeah. A $20 quartz is VASTLY superior to Apple Watch as a time telling device. Arguing otherwise is silly, since Apple “Watch” isn’t really a watch at all. It’s a little wrist computer/cell phone that happens to have a clock on it.
 
I remember some absolutely epic parties with the very first iPod

People at the party were just loving it -- everyone was marveled by being able to pull up "any song they wanted" (limited by what I had on it of course) and it was drop dead simple and understandable -- to anyone, out of the gate.

Same. I recall bringing it to parties and not getting to touch it again for hours. People were captivated by it. Instantly obsessed with its obvious functionality, beauty and simplicity.

But sure. If you listen to the Vision drones you’d think the iPod was a flop out of the gate. No one wanted one or knew what it was for.


Hahahahahahahah!!!!!
 
Yeah, like anyone needs that level of accuracy. As if anyone would even NOTICE that the device is a high accuracy RADIO.

For $20 you can get a wrist watch with a quartz movement that will be accurate to a few seconds per year, will last for three or more years on a single battery and doesn’t need an expensive repair if you happen to break it.

So yeah. A $20 quartz is VASTLY superior to Apple Watch as a time telling device. Arguing otherwise is silly, since Apple “Watch” isn’t really a watch at all. It’s a little wrist computer/cell phone that happens to have a clock on it.
…you’re arguing that it’s not that accurate, then nobody needs that level of accuracy, then somehow it doesn’t count because it checks in a syncs against NTP servers?

I really don’t follow, but it’s simply not a truthful statement that a $20 quartz watch is more accurate. It just plain isn’t.

That’s the point I was responding to. Nothing about whether a watch is “worth it”.
 
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…you’re arguing that it’s not that accurate, then nobody needs that level of accuracy, then somehow it doesn’t count because it checks in a syncs against NTP servers?

That’s not my argument. My argument is that the Apple Watch as a time keeping device exclusively is more complex and vastly more expensive than a simple quartz clock module. You can get a quartz module for pennies and it will keep time damn near as accurate as a radio that checks against the National Institute of Standards and Technology. In all practical, functional ways you’re better off with a cheap quartz if your goal is only to tell the time.

I really don’t follow, but it’s simply not a truthful statement that a $20 quartz watch is more accurate. It just plain isn’t.

It’s so close that it isn’t material. Quartz watches are VERY accurate and if you’re obsessive about it you can spend a few dollars more and get one that checks against the NTP server too, so…

That’s the point I was responding to. Nothing about whether a watch is “worth it”.
Nifty?
 
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That’s not my argument. My argument is that the Apple Watch as a time keeping device exclusively is more complex and vastly more expensive than a simple quartz clock module. You can get a quartz module for pennies and it will keep time damn near as accurate as a radio that checks against the National Institute of Standards and Technology. In all practical, functional ways you’re better off with a cheap quartz if your goal is only to tell the time.



It’s so close that it isn’t material. Quartz watches are VERY accurate and if you’re obsessive about it you can spend a few dollars more and get one that checks against the NTP server too, so…


Nifty?
Thanks for the elaboration on your post. From a “I just need to tell time accurately” perspective of a person, absolutely just buy the $20 thing!

I thought you were making the claim that a quartz watch was *technically* more accurate. Now that I understand your approach to the point, time keeping, was from that of a potential purchase decision I get what you meant.
 
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It's very hard when the device doesn't have a battery.

The radios can't be on since there is no power.

How should it support Find My when the device doesn't have a battery and thus no power to turn on the radios?

How can you track the device in any meaningful way if it doesn't have power to turn on the radios?

It could use a passive NFC chip but it would require other iPhones to be extremely close to it.
So how do you think the iMac uses FindMy if a missing battery prevents the devs from adding said code?
This points more to what the devs said, that it wasn't ready. Same as with a turned off device, it communicates with said servers as soon as it's powered on, independently from the device having a battery or not or the battery being dead.
 
So does Apple’s most expensive Mac, the Pro Tower have find my built in when it’s been stolen from your workplace and is being stored, unpowered, sitting in a container ship on its way overseas to be sold as parts? 🤔
 
Come on now. You know that’s a bogus comparison.
It applies to any Mac without a battery inside, the Mac Mini, Mac Studio, Mac Pro. If stolen & without power find my doesn’t work. It’s not a bogus comparison at all. Same with the AVP. Besides, we both agree the only people whining about it aren’t buying one anyway. 🤷
 
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It applies to any Mac without a battery inside, the Mac Mini, Mac Studio, Mac Pro. If stolen & without power find my doesn’t work. It’s not a bogus comparison at all. Same with the AVP. Besides, we both agree the only people whining about it aren’t buying one anyway. 🤷
It will work once it's turned on. No device has any use case if it's not turned on.
 
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