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Dont you find the iOS5 notification system graphics hideous??
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If how something looks is so trivial, how about you let me come over and spray paint on your car. I mean, that's not going to affect how it drives. DM me your address and I'll be right over.
Honestly, if you people HATED the way it looks, you would have an opinion too. But because it doesn't bother you, it's trivial.
And I'm completely serious by the way, if I can drive to you and you send me your address, I will tag your car.
That was the first thing I said.
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I just realized that this texture has actually been used on the back of widgets on Dashboard since the beginning of Dashboard. I hope it doesn't last that long on the phone.
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a forum. meant for friendly discussion. how about that!
ignore him, please.
He's been trolling the 'One should be able to peek into the notifications without dragging down the entire drawer' thread with the same "i don't care about style but functionality, you're all nitpicky, i'm only interested in them fixing bugs" attitude
about 'let the user decide what the background should look like.
- i don't think that's a great idea. i would love different themes, though. Some people obviously love the linen, i'd much rather have something even more minimal, maybe even glassy ... (which wouldn't be a real texture at all)
Most people will make it illegible if left to their own devices, but I don't see a problem with letting them recreate a myspace profile on their device.
I played around with the Teehan+Lax design (and used their iPhone comps a bit) to come up with a compromise. I even added a texture to appease those who find the clean version as not being "clean." I picked a more elegant material—and one that works well with brushed metal and chrome—leather. And I did something else Apple didn't do this time, I used it subtly.
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I'd rather they did both. It's not like they lack capital to obtain additional staff.
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If how something looks is so trivial, how about you let me come over and spray paint on your car. I mean, that's not going to affect how it drives. DM me your address and I'll be right over.
Honestly, if you people HATED the way it looks, you would have an opinion too. But because it doesn't bother you, it's trivial.
And I'm completely serious by the way, if I can drive to you and you send me your address, I will tag your car.
That was the first thing I said.
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I just realized that this texture has actually been used on the back of widgets on Dashboard since the beginning of Dashboard. I hope it doesn't last that long on the phone.
Wow, you're equating a simple design decision by Apple with vandalizing a car.
Did you really think that you were making some type of point?
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I'm just happy there is a new notification system - period. Like others have mentioned above, I'll take functionality over finesse anytime.
Do I wish they would use a different design? Yeah, but I don't hate it enough to complain about it.
Just my two cents!
I'm just happy there is a new notification system - period. Like others have mentioned above, I'll take functionality over finesse anytime.
Do I wish they would use a different design? Yeah, but I don't hate it enough to complain about it.
Just my two cents!
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I'm just happy there is a new notification system - period. Like others have mentioned above, I'll take functionality over finesse anytime.
Do I wish they would use a different design? Yeah, but I don't hate it enough to complain about it.
Just my two cents!
once again.
it's not functionality OR design.
those are NOT mutually exclusive. (especially not with Apple)
also, you call it 'complaining'
i'd consider it 'looking for ways to improve...'
I was definitely making a point. And I wasn't equating design to vandalism. The argument made is that design doesn't matter. I was illustrating that it does. Perhaps you should pay attention?
I'll make it simpler.
1. I wasn't talking about vandalism. It's not vandalism if you're granted permission. I didn't say that I was going to find them and tag their car.
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I'm just happy there is a new notification system - period. Like others have mentioned above, I'll take functionality over finesse anytime.
Do I wish they would use a different design? Yeah, but I don't hate it enough to complain about it.
Just my two cents!
No one said we weren't happy. I've been waiting for this ever since Android and even Windows Phone 7 came out.
But that doesn't mean we have to agree with the implementation. And as Fliesen says, design and function are not mutually exclusive and definitely not with Apple.
2. If design is that unimportant, what does it matter what their car looks like after I'm done repainting it? That is the point. It matters because design is important.
Design is important, but it's also largely subjective. I agree that Apple's implementation needs work, I just dislike your example even more.
Most of the 'debate' on this thread stems from people disagreeing that the Teehanlax (or variant) theme is an improvement.
Complete fail of a rebuttal. You miss the point, don't understand what vandalism means, and don't know what threat means. I'm not even sure you can follow an argument.
Must not feed the trolls.
I totally agree—except for the example being worse of course. Design is subjective. We were trying to debate about design on this thread in the first place, not whether or not design is important. But of course that is what happens. People debate design and then others come along and want to say "well who cares?"
One could ask that of most debates and the entire human race would be worse off.
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No, it's called "bitching for the sake of bitching."
Of ALL the things you could complain about that actually MATTER, you pick the background of the notification center?
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Come on, now. At least complain about something that affects usability, especially in a beta.
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or, better yet, complain about people discussing GUI design!
that's a neat thing to do in your free time...
It's like talking to a brick wall.
I understand that you're a "designer," and you believe that the fate of the free world rests on the graphic of the notification center.
All I'm saying is this: aren't there more important things to complain about right now?
I understand that you're a "designer," and you believe that the fate of the free world rests on the graphic of the notification center.
All I'm saying is this: aren't there more important things to complain about right now?
Brilliant.
It's like talking to a brick wall.
It is like talking to a brick wall.
Now who's being melodramatic. No one has said anything like this.
No. Not in a thread—that you willingly joined into—entitled:
Don't you find the iOS5 notification system graphics hideous??
If you want to complain about things that are more important—to you—go start your own thread.
We are. But that doesn't mean we have to be completely satisfied. If we were always satisfied, progress would cease to exist. Apple didn't leave OSX looking the same in 10.7 as it did in 10.1. Obviously they have these discussions too.
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And I stated that I disagreed. It was only then that I saw how adamantly people were against it.
Guys. It's a BACKGROUND. It really doesn't matter.
Major props to you, zync, for defending great design.
It's hypocritical that people don't care about the hideous notification center when Apple and it's products were founded around their artistic beauty. I'm hopeful that Apple is just using a testing template so they can code around it, for now.
It's not necessarily just the background; the entire layout seems very disruptive and unclean.
Sorry, but I'll trust the Apple devs instead of random folks from the forums. Seems they have been doing just fine thus far with their "design" choices.
And to preempt, there's a big difference between changing the entire notification system to be functionally better and changing a background after somebody whines.
Keep worrying about silly things like the background of the notification center, or the width of the icons, or the slider being wrong somehow, or other completely inconsequential things. I'll leave you to that, while the rest of us focus on what is actually WRONG with the beta and aren't nitpicky.
I'd bet a million bucks that if someone gave you a Porsche, many of you would bitch because the volume control knob wasn't 1/10 of a millimeter wider.
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Thanks. And thanks for sticking to the topic.
I hope that it's just a template, but since that texture has been in use since dashboard widgets, my hopes are low.
Honestly, though it sucks in folders too, at least there we only see it for a moment. We're going to see it all the time here.