Yes? De-regulation of those markets lead to massive price increases and worse products. Regulated prices are preferred, since a market based price is subject to market pressure by the incumbents.
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Dutch Regulator Says Apple's Plan for Third-Party In-App Payments is Insufficient, Fines Apple 5 Million Euros
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Yes? De-regulation of those markets lead to massive price increases and worse products. Regulated prices are preferred, since a market based price is subject to market pressure by the incumbents.
Nobody ruled that that they weren’t a monopoly, stop saying that as if it’s fact, the judge made no ruling in that regard at all…. Only that Epic couldn’t prove it.
You're right, they aren't. They're doing something different -- paying the salaries of approximately 2000 engineers up front to make the market available in the first place (no source, mathed out my guess here with there being 150 openings currently and assuming a 15% churn). Paying the salaries of a marketing team. Paying the salaries of a support team that will help you code it out. Paying the salaries of their own accountants that do all the developers localized taxes for them and then provide the required tax documents. Paying the salaries of the review teams. Paying the cost of hosting. Paying the cost of distributing. Paying the cost of localization.
Those costs are on the shoulders of the manufacturers in your Finance 101 example. So I guess this must be Finance 102, since the risks aren't on the developer here, they're on Apple.
"Since passenger deregulation in 1978, airline prices have fallen 44.9 percent in real terms according to the Air Transport Association."
Source: https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/AirlineDeregulation.html
"Since the breakup of. AT&T, interstate long-distance prices have decreased by about 40 percent"
Source: https://www.jstor.org/stable/2117661
"To understand the changes wrought by May Day, consider what it cost to buy 100 shares trading at $25 on the New York Stock Exchange before May 1, 1975. You would have paid a minimum commission of $49 and a bid-ask spread (the difference between the selling price and purchase price) of $13, reckons Charles M. Jones, an economist at Columbia Business School who studies brokerage costs. That totaled 2.5% of the $2,500 transaction. Today, you could buy 100 shares of a $25 stock for a commission of $10 or less at an online broker and perhaps $1 in total bid-ask spread, a combined cost of 0.4%. So the cost of trading has fallen by more than 80%—without adjusting for inflation."
Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/lesson...rue-today-the-intelligent-investor-1430450405
Fortunately Apple isn’t run by a 12 year old.
clearly you dont know how representatives work in a democracy. we have a little more than two options and our representatives was elected for these policies.?
the Dating industry just happened to be the ones who filed a complaint. the rest will follow.
how? If the Dutch gets their way consumers will get a better experience and options.
not at all. teh dating apps already have a website. the problem is consumers overwhelmingly just goes to the appstore and serch "tinder" or "grinder" or any random app they already know when they are on the phone.
it's a question of customer convenience, this forces the companies to be on the iOS store to be relevant. same reason why Macrumors have their own app, even tho it's just a glorified web wrapper
The way you make it sound is though Apple is doing the app developers a favour. Without the apps the iphone is nothing but just an everyday mobile phone. Actually the app developers hold all the cards but yet somehow and for some reason Apple is the one who has turned that around and made it look like it is them who is doing the app developers a favour. they are not. Apple needs developers to keep on developing app's for it's iOS platform because without those app's the iphone is nothing.
You obviously don't know how coding works.
The only reason Web apps are limited is because apple putts the Safari browser in a sandbox, restricting what iOS instructions it can and can't request from the operating system. Not a single developer is using Apples IP when they develop apps. all of their IP's are localized on the physical device. Otherwise, the app would literally be able to run independent of the operating system
I find it's generally futile to debate emotionally-based viewpoints with logic-based arguments.
Again with the Dutch?!?
/Going to find my Austin Powers meme.
Ironically the iPhone came before the App Store and developers. Both need each other but in this particular chicken and egg scenario one definitely came before the other!
All you did here was reword your previous point that I’ve already refuted with direct evidence from Apple themselves.
That's called "customer choice". They can use the App Store OR they can use the internet OR they can use an Android phone. Is Steam required to allow links to external web sites? Can console users click a link and go to the internet to download their game? Are PCs required to have reminders to users that they could be doing the same thing on their smartphone instead? It's ridiculous.
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It seems to me commissions, not payment processor Is what this is about. If it weren't Apple would have just given in. (all imo)
Yes… long distance rates decreased to ZERO. But not because of deregulation. But because of non-traditional competition from cable tv providers and VOIP providers, and later, cell providers. You can see this currently in real time with OTT tv providers. Meanwhile, the standard hookup of a phone line has gone from $5 per month in 1983 to $60. Wow. We also lost Bell Labs, which you should probably research, who basically invented all of modern society and could not patent anything unrelated to telephony. You know, like Unix, or stereo sound, or lasers, or cellular technology, or transistors, or solar cells… or discovering the freaking Big Bang. Many more things too, but who cares? Long distance rates fell cuz everyone calls across the country constantly.
I mean, it isn’t like there are now dozens of companies charging small fortunes for the products we used to get dirt cheap from that or anything…
How about breaking up Standard Oil? That only unleashed multiple oil companies far more profitable than its parent. Prices must’ve gone down to facilitate that.
Oh, and electric deregulation. Those prices have gone down too, right?
”Competition is good” is hyperbole, always has been. Regulation is required to check prices, nothing else.
Psystar lawsuit. In the ruling, the judge said that Apple's hardware couldn't be considered a monopoly unto itself. Psystar was trying to argue that Apple was violating antitrust law by not allowing their desktop OS to be installed on 3rd party Mac clones that were being sold to the public.
Also, Epic would obviously have a hard time proving "monopoly" since their Fortnite app was originally developed for consoles and PC, not smartphones. How can you sell the same app across a wide variety of hardware and then claim Apple's phone hardware is a monopoly?
nope, not at all. 100% of iOS apps don't use any apple Intellectual property whatsoever. they use a list of approved calls they can use that already exist in the OS. if the call dosent exist in the OS then the app cant do it.
So is it not use of software those calls call that Apple would be licensing?
Pretty much. Apple has built something designed to work a particular way. They’re asking that it work fundamentally different which, to no one’s surprise, takes time to implement. They don’t like the fact that it will take time (obviously not understanding what it takes to build a multinational secure App Store) so they’re fining.
Then Apple would be getting regulated even more
Pulling out of Dutch market is going to solve nothing since the United States is getting ready to pass legislation to force Apple to allow side loading on their devices. I would assume the European Union is not going to be far behind the United States in similar legislation.
If Apple is entitled to a commission it's entitled to a commission regardless of who processes the payment.
The US will vote on the legislation and the votes will determine whether it gets passed.