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DxO Labs Says iPhone 8 Plus Has Best Smartphone Camera They've Ever Tested

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From the Dxo review.

A cropped portrait.

Impressive.
 
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Jman13 said:
They haven't retested the Note 8 and S8+. They recently redid their scoring system, so have only tested a handful of phones so far, and Samsung's latest haven't been retested on the new formula.

However, DxO's mobile marks are always a bit odd. The 8 camera looks to be very good, but for my eye, I much prefer the Pixel shot to the iPhone shot in the portrait comparison posted above.

Also, like many mobile phones, there's still tons of processed smearing of fine detail in bright light, which looks terrible when zoomed in. This shot is the first shot they post in the review, and overall tonality and contrast is great...but the grass is one big pile of mush, and a lot of the detail lines in the brick wall near the center are completely blurred out by hyperagressive noise reduction: https://cdn.dxomark.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/080-5_ref.jpg
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Huh? The Pixel shot makes the model look ghostly, among other things (blown out). The 8 is smooth as you like. No comparison in terms of natural color, either.
 
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I am actually disappointed after reading this. I was hoping for much more impressive video performance. From this it seems the improvements are marginal at best.
 
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sk1wbw said:
haha, this will seriously piss off the Android fanboy legion. DxO is relevant when they say an Android phone takes great pictures, but when an iPhone does, they are irrelevant.
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Why would it? The Android legion doesn't criticise what Apple does well.

It mainly evangelizes the "what iDon't, 'Droid does' mantra that has existed since the beginning of 'the conflict'.
 
Given they have reviewed the S8, why is it not in their list? Sure the iPhone 8 beats it, but why have a chart that does not represent highest to lowest...... am I missing something?
 
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Jman13 said:
They haven't retested the Note 8 and S8+. They recently redid their scoring system, so have only tested a handful of phones so far, and Samsung's latest haven't been retested on the new formula.

However, DxO's mobile marks are always a bit odd. The 8 camera looks to be very good, but for my eye, I much prefer the Pixel shot to the iPhone shot in the portrait comparison posted above.

Also, like many mobile phones, there's still tons of processed smearing of fine detail in bright light, which looks terrible when zoomed in. This shot is the first shot they post in the review, and overall tonality and contrast is great...but the grass is one big pile of mush, and a lot of the detail lines in the brick wall near the center are completely blurred out by hyperagressive noise reduction: https://cdn.dxomark.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/080-5_ref.jpg
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cheers, this makes sense. So its a very much incomplete list for now. Be interesting in a few months time when the X against the pixel 2, note 8 etc.
 
WilliamG said:
Huh? The Pixel shot makes the model look ghostly, among other things (blown out). The 8 is smooth as you like. No comparison in terms of natural color, either.
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On the contrary, the iPhone shot is completely washed out, and when zoomed in has massive smearing of detail on the model.
 
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I think we're approaching the point of limited returns when it comes to camera photo quality.
My guess is that 99.5% of the photos shot on a smart phone are viewed on an smart phone. With the tiny screens that are necessary for device that can fit in your pocket, how "good" does a smartphone snapshot need to be?

Sure it's great to have a nice camera on a phone, and the technology today is amazing. But I think we're approaching peak photo quality. The image quality now a days is excellent.
 
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Swuycheck said:
Will the X use the same camera as the 8+? Or will the X have a better camera?
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Camera the same except for these minor updates. Both rear cameras have optical image stabilization where the iPhone 8 Plus Apple decided to just do optical image stabilization on the wide angle camera. And the front camera on the iPhone X doesn't need two cameras to do the portrait mode when using the front facing camera.
 
Mackie924 said:
Nah. The scores are so close that the top Android cameras are virtually on the same level. Let's just celebrate how good smartphone cameras have begun before flaming the fans of fanboy war.
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I can go and find hundreds of comments within the last week only, claiming that iPhone cameras are not good enough, even though the difference between the Pixel and iPhone 7 Plus was less significant.
 
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sk1wbw said:
IF I had a grand to spend, I would would buy the iPhone X over the Note 8 any day of the week. As The Verge said, the Bixby button on the Note is "hardware bloat".

You know, looking back at that sentence, I realized I'm a poet and didn't know it.
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I go the other way on that. I like and use the hardware features on my Note devices (I've had 2 and ordered the Note8 too), Bixby button notwithstanding.

With the Note you get more functionality for your money:

1. Stylus: Not everyone uses it, but when you need precision touch on the go, it can't be beat
2. Expandable storage: Running out of room on your device sucks. Non issue for many, though
3. Headphone jack: Apple includes a dongle for this with their phone for a reason
4. Bigger screen: Greatly enhances split screen multitasking (another missing iPhone feature) so you can monitor email and chats simultaneously.
5. Fingerprint reader: Inconvenient location aside, the X omits it completely (although the way FaceID works is brilliant). Combined with the iris scanner this provides more sign on options.
6. All other Android goodies iOS still doesn't offer (widgets, customization, filesystem acces, etc)

The iPhone is not even close, but if it offers all you need/want then I can see how the term 'bloat' gets thrown around.
 
Jsameds said:
I’ve heard this ‘laws of physics’ thing so many times over the past few years but I’d bet that today’s phones would also appear to break ‘the laws of physics’ to somebody talking about phones 15 years ago considering we now have something close to DSLR quality in a camera smaller than a pea.
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Sure, but if you look at Intel's tick-tock or graphic cards or battery life on cellphones you see that we're topping of at what is possible without running into the laws of physics, while there was a lot of headroom 15 years ago.

For example right now we can't get a reliable 10nm process started which is what's slowing down cpu and graphic improvements. And there are other ways to still improve but there's a point where you are running into those laws and what you see anno 2017 is that we're more and more getting to that point of not having enough space because you can't work smaller, or not getting more light on a sensor without actually increasing the lens size.
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LordVic said:
Promising. how does the iPhone 8 (not plus) compare?

those are decent quality photos for sure. though, need to see more low light.
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Maybe read the article...
 
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I don't expect the X camera to have any noticeable difference between the 8+. It just has OIS on the telephoto camera with a different aperture.
 
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