Apples to Oranges. You seriously can't compare a DSLR to a phone. They are completely different devices which serve different purposes.
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DxO Labs Says iPhone 8 Plus Has Best Smartphone Camera They've Ever Tested
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The latter is not true. I mostly shot casually with my phone but occasionally I use my 4 year old DSLR and am always blown away by how much better DSLR photos look.
Smartphones are improving but when it comes to light, detail and clarity they still have a lot of catching up to do.
That sun-behind-trees comparison is a difficult one to conduct fairly. Already moving the camera by one centimetre can change the intensity of sun peeking through the leaves significantly. Even if using a glif-type smartphone holder on a tripod, one would have to also account for the different camera positions on different smartphones. Plus one has to take the test shots in a pretty short time interval to prevent the Sun-Earth relative movement to change how much of the sun is blocked by the leaves. Add some wind into the mix and you have yet another thing that varies from shot-to-shot.
I would argue you get exactly that by going for the iPhone 8 Plus. It can zoom and is said to do low light much much better
Yeah, but my iPhone is far better at sending iMessages than my DSLR.
Agreed and the camera you have with you is far more useful then the one sitting at home. My post was in response to the people that are confused that the iPhone is as good as a DSLR in terms of picture quality.
Galaxy 8 is not on that list. And it would be at the top if it was tested.
Jobs would have put the same camera in both phones. It was about insanely great products that make your life better. The current CEO is about marketing, upselling and squeezing every last dollar out of the consumer. The recruitment of a former Burberry CEO is prime example of this path.
On a sightly related note I wonder how the iPhone 8/plus would compare to a typical point and shoot camera nowadays.
Physics is still relevant, but decreasingly so with software and chip enhancements that allow for amazing image processing.
That's exactly what manufacturers have been improving upon the last couple years, and it's only going to continue. Telephoto lens, and OIS to help aid with low light as well.
Very happy that everyone is able to take great day time shots though, as it was always annoying to see a lower quality shot of an important event, several years back. Wish everything I'd taken a picture of several years ago was as good as it is now.
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Same camera as the 8+
Agreed.
Is the iPhone 8 (Plus) a hot contender for best smartphone camera? Sure.
Do I trust DxO with their stupid benchmark? Definitely not.
Just remember: HTC 10 was leading smartphone camera according to DxO for a period of time in 2016 and that camera was crap.
DxO Labs has declared the iPhone 8 Plus has the best smartphone camera it has ever tested in a new in-depth review.
iPhone 8 Plus set a new record with an overall DxOMark Mobile score of 94, two points higher than its smaller iPhone 8 sibling. iPhone 8 Plus also topped the Google Pixel and HTC U11, which both scored 90 points, as well as last year's iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus which scored 88 and 85 points respectively.
DxO said iPhone 8 models do a better job of capturing HDR scenes. In the comparison below, it found the iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus offer better detail preservation and overall exposure than the iPhone 7 Plus. The performance matches that of the Google Pixel, which was released nearly one year ago.
In low light, DxO said the iPhone 8 Plus camera's exposures are generally accurate, with some underexposure in very low light.
iPhone 8 Plus
DxO said the iPhone 8 Plus is the highest-performing smartphone camera it tested in relation to the bokeh effect, which makes the subject in the foreground sharp while creating an out-of-focus blur in the background.
iPhone 8 Plus
Google Pixel
DxO said the iPhone 8 Plus improves slightly over the iPhone 8 in its color performance by completely avoiding visible color shading, even in low light.
DxO said, overall, the iPhone 8 Plus is an "excellent choice" for the needs of "nearly every smartphone photographer."DxO says it has analyzed the image and video quality of over 10,000 cameras, lenses, and mobile phones, and its tests are generally respected within the industry. The company also sells some consumer-facing products like the DxO ONE camera, which can be plugged into an iPhone's Lightning connector.
The full review is a worthwhile read for additional photos and analysis of the iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus cameras.
Article Link: DxO Labs Says iPhone 8 Plus Has Best Smartphone Camera They've Ever Tested
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Nonsense. DSLR pictures are miles ahead of phone cameras. Phone cameras take photos good enough to look at phone screens. Once you zoom in on them the advantages of DSLR's are immense. I own a DSLR and iPhone 7 Plus. Even at 100% on my computer screen, iPhone 7 pictures look like crap, DSLR pictures look perfect.
The only aspect of these cameras getting better and better every year is low light photography, because they keep getting better apertures. But the resolution will not get any better. 12mp pictures do not look any crispier than 8mp ones because the sensors are way too small. And unless they find a completely new way to take pictures, without bending the laws of physics, this is as good as it gets.
So it's better than any phone that has been out for at least a year.
Well, that's saying something. I guess that tagline ends as soon as a new phone is introduced in the next month, or two.
Well, that's saying something. I guess that tagline ends as soon as a new phone is introduced in the next month, or two.
Once they utilize this:
http://m.caltech.edu/news/ultra-thin-camera-creates-images-without-lenses-78731
We could finally go a step forward and ditch them lens.
http://m.caltech.edu/news/ultra-thin-camera-creates-images-without-lenses-78731
We could finally go a step forward and ditch them lens.
Please everyone hold your horses and don't start hating fan boys on all sides. DxO changed their method just recently and the current list doesn't include all the phones from last list. I believe iPhone 8 has good camera but so does Note 8/S8, Pixel too. I recommend to wait for "blind tests" where you can check what photos YOU prefer and after that you might be right or you might have to admit that it's ok to be second etc.
I'm curious about the Bokeh. The Pixel looks great, but I suspect they used the Lens Blur feature? Dxo isn't clear how it's measuring bokeh. If you're just measuring the standard bokeh off the f/2.0 Pixel lens it's obviously not a very shallow DOF given that f/2.0 on a smartphone is more like f/16 on a FF camera.
I'm a Pixel owner and an iPhone 7 owner and I find that the Lens Blur feature on the Pixel is hard to use as it often will error out if it doesn't like your scene. I end up almost never using it for portraits as the 7 Plus' Portrait mode seems more reliable.
I think a lot of people will see the nice blur on the Pixel and go wow, but in reality given how hard it is to even achieve that, it's not all that useful.
I'm a Pixel owner and an iPhone 7 owner and I find that the Lens Blur feature on the Pixel is hard to use as it often will error out if it doesn't like your scene. I end up almost never using it for portraits as the 7 Plus' Portrait mode seems more reliable.
I think a lot of people will see the nice blur on the Pixel and go wow, but in reality given how hard it is to even achieve that, it's not all that useful.
Of course it is, I just believe there is always a way around physics.
It’s mainly an argument for cameras and light, rather than a Nano meter limit to processors.
They’re in the same boat though, different problems, different scenarios and they’ll ultimately find different solutions to work around them. They’re still ‘physical limitations’, but limited to the scope of the technology at the time.
The most prominent examples I can think of in both fields are night vision and quantum computing, but thinking back most people would have laughed at that and also at the concept of a pocket device outperforming a desktop device that relies on a tiny battery, just as the people who laughed at the concept of a desktop computer knew the physical limitations of a mechanical computers, and the only battery powered devices needed to be carted around on wheels.
Limitations are all in people’s minds. There’s always another way to achieve a goal. Steve Jobs had that vision, I wish more people had it too.