DxOMark: iPhone XR is 'Best Single-Cam Smartphone We've Tested'

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    DxOMark today published the results of its in-depth analysis of the iPhone XR's single-lens rear camera. Apple's flagship smartphone achieved an overall score of 101 points, surpassing Google's Pixel 2 to make it the top-ranked single lens phone in the site's rankings.


    In its testing, DxOMark found the iPhone XR to offer "a very similar proposition for image quality as the flagship iPhone XS Max," across key photo attributes like exposure, color, detail, noise, and artifacts.

    Both devices also achieved the same overall score for video, but the dual lenses of the iPhone XS Max meant the XR fell behind on zoom and bokeh shots, although DxOMark noted that Apple had managed to improve the flash on the more affordable single-lens iPhone.

    Colored panels shot on iPhone XR

    The review adds that the iPhone XR has very good exposure and dynamic range in bright light and indoor conditions, while detail is well-preserved in all lighting conditions with "vivid and pleasant colors in most situations."

    Apple iPhone XR, HDR test scene

    The few cons the review noted included the visibility of fine grain luminance noise in indoor and low-light conditions, while video was criticized for instabilities in white balance when filming indoors.

    Apple iPhone XS Max, HDR test scene for comparison

    DxOMark concludes that the photographic capabilities of the iPhone XR are "broadly similar to those of the XS/XS Max" which should make the less-expensive model "desirable to many Apple enthusiasts looking to upgrade their smartphone."

    For its scoring and analysis methodology, DxOMark says its engineers capture and evaluate over 1,500 test images and more than two hours of video both in controlled lab environments and in natural indoor and outdoor scenes, using the camera's default settings.

    DxO is a well-known French image lab that has been reviewing smartphone cameras for several years, but they aren't immune to criticism, which just goes to show how subjective image quality can sometimes be.

    Article Link: DxOMark: iPhone XR is 'Best Single-Cam Smartphone We've Tested'
  2. HacKage macrumors 6502

    May 14, 2010
    We going to pretend DxOMark is relevant now that it favours an iPhone?
  3. tbayrgs macrumors 603


    Jul 5, 2009
    Only because they haven’t tested the Pixel 3 yet. ;)
  4. Sasparilla, Dec 7, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2018

    Sasparilla macrumors 6502a

    Jul 6, 2012
    Well since it uses the same camera as the Xs's it should get a similar score. Probably only top dog for single camera till the Pixel 3's are tested though (funny they haven't been already...maybe Google was holding them back waiting for their night mode to be released into production before doing it).

    Why? What do you think of DxOMark?
  5. tromboneaholic Suspended


    Jun 9, 2004
    Clearwater, FL
    Some people take ratings like this into account when comparing one iPhone to another. For example, it's interesting that this year's Xr outscored last year's iPhone X.
  6. Return Zero macrumors 6502a

    Return Zero

    Oct 2, 2013
    On photos, yes, but Pixel phones suffer pretty badly in videos by comparison (especially if they take sound quality into consideration, which I doubt).
  7. Scottsoapbox macrumors 6502a


    Oct 10, 2014
    Strategic testing order: Herald the XR this week and then the new best Pixel 3 next week.
  8. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 601

    T'hain Esh Kelch

    Aug 5, 2001
    I guess you didn't read the remaining articles about non-iPhones?
  9. Piggie macrumors G3


    Feb 23, 2010
    I had to smile to myself when I read your comment as it was exactly my thought.
    Over the past few years when the iPhone was beaten by this companies score, we saw the majority of posters rubbishing this company and it's tests/results.

    I was/am keep to see if this opinion here now changes that Apple have got to the top in the category again ;)

    I would love to believe people stick to their guns, and don't flip/flop their opinion simply based upon current results.
  10. clauzzz203 macrumors 6502

    Sep 18, 2012
    You cannot rate the subjective artistic tone of a picture, but you can make up whatever score of the day
  11. shanson27 macrumors 6502a


    Nov 27, 2011
    The test review of the P20 Pro is paid by Huawei.!
    Huawei video 98 score
    iPhone Xs Video 96 score
  12. DNichter macrumors 604


    Apr 27, 2015
    Philadelphia, PA
    Pretty impressive for the "budget" iPhone. Especially considering the Pixel 2 was highly praised.
  13. HacKage macrumors 6502

    May 14, 2010
    What I am getting at is in all of the other articles mentioning competitors phones, there are a never ending amount of comments saying that it is subjective, that it doesn't matter, that it is bias or whatever. Even above this comment saying that Huawei's score was paid for, that somehow it wasn't independent. People literally can't get their heads round another company producing something far better than Apple can.

    I actually value what DxOMark do a lot, they produce the same tests across multiple devices for a proper like for like test. Photography is very subjective though. Look at this video from MKBHD that shoes the iPhones being beaten by a blackberry and Pocophone I think it was:

    I own an 8 Plus. I admire the pics my boss' P20 Pro takes. The night modes in the latest handsets is amazing for what it is. The XR does take amazing photos, and better portrait pics in some instances than the X/XS. It is a great phone, but don't try and tell me that the very same people that were belittling the Samsung and P20 Pro results won't be the same people that tell their friends about how the XR "is the best single camera smartphone" on the market. What is telling is they haven't reviewed the Pixel 3 yet. They are basing the latest and greatest from Apple with a 1 year old device. We will see what happens when they get round to the Pixel 3.
  14. gavroche, Dec 7, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2018

    gavroche macrumors 6502a


    Oct 25, 2007
    Left Coast
    There really need to be a betting site for comment predictions. Knew your comment would be one of the first. See it every time.

    Edit: Seems to me that phone cameras have all gotten good enough that reviews will just be nitpicking minor stuff. I can't imagine the reviews will affect anyone's buying decision. Camera reviews beyond this level of quality only make sense for actual stand alone cameras.
  15. Glockworkorange macrumors 65816


    Feb 10, 2015
    Chicago, Illinois
    That’s why I came to the comments—the article didn’t mention the Pixel 3, which I am sure will win the day.

    Boy, DXOMark became like the smartphone measuring stick for cameras real fast.
  16. thadoggfather macrumors G4


    Oct 1, 2007
    The XR is such a misunderstood product... reminds me of iPhone SE in that sense.

    I guess I like these types :D
  17. genovelle macrumors 6502a

    May 8, 2008
    So Google knew the IPhone is better like the last article by a photography sitet hat compared the iPhone to the Pixel 3 stating the main plus was the impressive but gimmicky night mode that would rarely be used. Most tech sites that have a love feast with Google because they like free stuff and Google, Samsung and others are willing to provide benefits for good reviews.
  18. smirking macrumors 68000


    Aug 31, 2003
    Silicon Valley
    What you said is true, but also has zero relevance to the topic.
  19. BvizioN macrumors 601


    Mar 16, 2012
    Manchester, UK
    Can you point us out to where it says now DxOMark is relevant?
    It wasn't and it still isn't.
  20. tromboneaholic Suspended


    Jun 9, 2004
    Clearwater, FL
    I think they were trying to say that you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it take a good photo.
  21. sofila macrumors 6502a


    Jan 19, 2006
    Ramtop Mountains
    Even better to believe people having their own personal opinions,and not some pre-made up marketing slogan
  22. smirking macrumors 68000


    Aug 31, 2003
    Silicon Valley
    If you look around their site, you'll see that they've been doing this kind of thing for a long time. They've long done extensive testing of sensors on DSLR and ILC cameras as well as lenses... well they USED to test lenses. In more recent years they started a mobile sensors category.
  23. 69Mustang macrumors 603


    Jan 7, 2014
    In between a rock and a hard place
    Phill Schiller disagrees with you. ;)
  24. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    Who’s we?
    --- Post Merged, Dec 7, 2018 ---
    So because Phil Schiller tweeted this out anyone who thinks these scores aren’t relevant are now hypocrites or something?
  25. Ramchi macrumors 6502a


    Dec 13, 2007
    Trap for those XS / XS Max fence sitters not willing to spend yet contemplating XR, without dual cameras. Great minds game by Apple.

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