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DxOMark: iPhone XS Max is 'Surefire Option' With 'One of the Best Smartphone Cameras Ever'
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I have a Mate RS which has the same camera system as the P20 Pro. For night time the Huawei camera is actually really good. I'm sure they are doing multiple exposure, all that AI stuff, but the results are great at night. However during the daytime, the iPhone XS camera is definitely better especially the color reproduction.
Of course this is all subjective.
Of course this is all subjective.
I can certainly read Mr Wise Guy
But the numbers certainly aren't accurate because the Pixel 2 is the best on the market, no debate really ― they've been talking about how these scores are totally irrelevant for the past time now, I can really see why
Once again, the beauty mode that some people are complaining about is front camera only. They only tested the back cameras.
Could care less about dxo or displaymate for that matter.
Their scores don’t really have any weight on my decision.
Their scores don’t really have any weight on my decision.
We people ? Excuse me ? I’m an apple fan through and through . Seeing pixel 2 and xs images, I don’t see this “much better” claim. Let’s not make his about apple v Android, I’m asking about the cameras.....
Were you not one of the people who said DxOMark.com where not relevant when scores did not favour apple?
I don’t buy into this childish us versus them bias, it’s pros and cons , though I choose apple for my products, just cause it’s got apple logo on the back , does not magically make it much better, it’s better for me, and it’s subjective
Improvements may be minor or major, the bar for excellence gets raised with technology advances that may not be available to the general public or a shipping product within its class.
Next year the 2019 iPhone will have a better camera and image quality compared to the Xs/Max. So what is your point, you have a choice to either commit or not. You are not forced to upgrade every year.
I don’t hear professional photographers complain about their DSLR when a new model is released. Your choice to stick with what you have or upgrade. A non-issue tbh.
I get it and that's fair. I can only speak for myself in that regard though. I knew the Pixel 2 and the Note 9 were great cameras, still are. I also expected the XS to best them, just like I expect the Pixel 3 to regain that top spot. It's a never ending cycle and ultimately comes down to preference, but to throw out claims that this company is somehow being bought because they are praising Apple, without any sort of proof, is pretty ridiculous to me.
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Okay so no facts at all, you're just a little butt hurt about it. I get it, take the L and wait for the Pixel 3 to regain the top spot. Then you can feel better about yourself again. It's a never ending cycle.
I really don't know what you're arguing then. You are pretty much saying you've seen the photos and from your subjective opinion, the difference isn't great.
DXOMark does some scientific testing and the Pixel 2 is lower on their list. If you think it's just as good, buy a Pixel. If we use the DXO findings, it's not and that's better than subjective "I think they look the same" or "not worth the minor improvement" posts.
Based on that, buy a Xiaomi. Scored well, costs half the price.
My point was, most people aren't going to buy phones that offer similar or worse features than the iPhone they've used for years. I was making a larger point.
And I'm not a huge DxO fan other than they post their methodology and use numbers to make claims. I don't always agree with their findings. The P20 Pro has a crap video mode, yet they gave it good marks. Rumor has been Huawei might have paid them.
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It’s rather peculiar for a poster to have such distaste for apple and it’s users but still elect to use an iPhone.
Still applies the processing even to the back camera. It's how the new camera works as claimed by Apple that it performs 1 trillion operations per photo, using a merging exposure technique which is a "drastic departure" from images captured with previous-generation iPhones. Is it a good portable camera? Absolutely, Yes! It was number 2 on the spot which is not a bad place to be. It just happen that those who does the testing has to follow certain guidelines to rate the photo like SHARPNESS.
Asking for a source on a comment thread for an article specifically showing the Google Pixel 2 scoring lower than the iPhone XS doesn't make much sense.
The "much better" statement might be stretching it. However, it was probably just emphasis added because they were annoyed at people saying the Pixel 2 was better on comments on an article specifically showing that not to be the case.
Read this it was here at MacRumors the other day. Processing is done in both cameras, it just happen that front facing has more effects applied to it. https://www.macrumors.com/2018/10/01/halide-iphone-xs-camera-deep-dive/
Haven't read it in depth, but I'm guessing that they've chosen a scene which the X would struggle with (and looking at the shot, most camera's would have issues) with a dark foreground and bright background - something that the smart HDR deature should help with. I'm sure if they chose a well-lit, or uniformly dark scene the results would be a lot closer. Also not sure why regular HDR on the X doesn't make this scene look a bit better.
The P20-Pro has a 40 megapixel camera, equipped with 3 lenses and a 5x hybrid zoom, developed in cooperation with Leica. When Apple's new iPhone does almost as well, it's a huge compliment to Apple.
Wait... what??
In what world is 98>105?
Do I suck at math, or do you & all the people that upvoted you?
I’m really really confused right now. =/
Hmmm.... The appropriate term might be "blown out" or "over-exposed." "Oversaturated" refers to color, and as a white/off-white detail, there's no color intensity to evaluate.
But are any of the examples blown-out (so bright that the sensor can't record detail) or over-exposed in the circled area? It doesn't seem so to me. It's simply one of the whitest areas of the image. However, there's still shading/gradation. The Huwei is the closest to bright white, and even there I can detect detail.
Back in the day, one of the Zone System goals was to include some bright white and some pure black in every image, while still delivering detail in both the highlights and the shadows. I think these test shots manage to pull that off nicely, without any darkroom/post-processing manipulation.
I have to say that's pretty impressive, considering "camera" is just one of dozens of "blades" on this Swiss Army Knife.
Maybe they didn’t test both versions and they are just listing the unit they actually tested.
I think it is funny for someone who claimed DxO was corrupt and companies PAID for their high marks...to not come to the same conclusion for Apple? Are you reversing your stance on DxO now
Can you show me this?
I hold Apple to very high standards and expect a lot from them. I can also be critical of them and still be a fan.....
You should try that once in a while.
But you are correct...i don't like some Apple users....because of their blind fandom.....
There's a difference between math and statistics. The DxOMark scores are more like statistics and weighted differently to make a lesser camera score higher.