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I'm suggesting that calling something 4 years old when it is 3 years old is in fact, wrong.

Whichever way you loo at it. Is like saying a half emptied bottle is not half emptied but half full, or the other way around. This is the forth version of same design iPhone, on the forth year. Having completed a full year or have just started, it really does not matter.My point is, we have a 4 years of same design iPhone (unless we get a refreshed design sometime on the next few months and this one gets discontinued)
 
This is the forth version of same design iPhone, on the forth year.

iPhone 6 was released 2014. The current year is 2017. It's the fourth iPhone with the same design, on the third year.

Having completed a full year or have just started, it really does not matter.

Ah, so the iPhone X is already a 1 year old design is it? No? Then the iPhone 8 is a 3 year old design.

My point is, we have a 4 years of same design iPhone

iPhone SE design has been around since 2012. Do you also have a problem with that? It's irrelevant anyway since people other than you still like it.

Really don't understand your complaints considering Apple launched the X as well as the 8. If you want a new design buy that.
 
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So why did Apple break convention and call this the iPhone 8 rather than the 7s? Is the glass back really *that* big of an upgrade?!
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iPhone 6 was released 2014. The current year is 2017. It's the fourth iPhone with the same design, on the third year.

It's the fourth year. It's been three years and some days since the iPhone 6 release, so that mean's it's just started its fourth year. If a baby's just had their 3rd Birthday, that means they're entering their fourth year of life.
 
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iPhone 6 was released 2014. The current year is 2017. It's the fourth iPhone with the same design, on the third year.

2014-2015 first year
2015-2016 second year
2016-2017 third year
2017-2018 forth year

iPhone 6 released on 19 September 2014. The third year have finito and we are now on the forth year.
Good night
 
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If a baby's just had their 3rd Birthday, that means they're entering their fourth year of life.

If you count when their born, ya

Some people really need to go back to school (assuming they have been there once)

2014-2015 first year
2015-2016 second year
2016-2017 third year
2017-2017 forth year

iPhone 6 released on 19 September 2014. The third year have finito and we are now on the forth year.
Good night

2017-2017 is not finished yet, therefore i wouldn't call that a complete year, and i would not count it in this case.
 
Whichever way you loo at it. Is like saying a half emptied bottle is not half emptied but half full, or the other way around. This is the forth version of same design iPhone, on the forth year. Having completed a full year or have just started, it really does not matter.My point is, we have a 4 years of same design iPhone (unless we get a refreshed design sometime on the next few months and this one gets discontinued)

A 20 year-old goes into a bar.
This 20 year-old is going on 21, since it's their 20th birthday.
They still cannot have a drink of alcohol, because "it's been 20 years I'm alive" doesn't mean "I'll turn 21 eventually over the course of these next 365 days give me a beer!"

I garantee you their glass will remain fully empty.

iPhone 8 has a new all-glass look, new colors. That was enough for the iPhone 5 to qualify as "new".

iPhone 8 is a 7S, what did you expect ?

Also, the iPhone X got a new design this year so you have no argument there.
 
People who overspend on an item generally will find nothing wrong with it; see Apple device buyers across the board. Must justify outrageous expense for personal sanity soothing.
People who don’t hace the money to buy item spend their days crapping on the head of people in the place where they live to feel better about themselves. See I can do pop psychology too huh!
 
A 20 year-old goes into a bar.
This 20 year-old is going on 21, since it's their 20th birthday.
They still cannot have a drink of alcohol, because "it's been 20 years I'm alive" doesn't mean "I'll turn 21 eventually over the course of these next 365 days give me a beer!"

I garantee you their glass will remain fully empty.

iPhone 8 has a new all-glass look, new colors. That was enough for the iPhone 5 to qualify as "new".

iPhone 8 is a 7S, what did you expect ?

Also, the iPhone X got a new design this year so you have no argument there.

Gosh, you guys use so much energy on this argument when the fact is we are on the forth year of the same design. The forth year have started since few days ago. And believe it or not, it is the forth year. Forth year of the exact desig (minus antenna bands minor changes and glass back)
So....that is a fact.
As for the iPhone X, it is iPhone X and not iPhone 8.
 
People who overspend on an item generally will find nothing wrong with it; see Apple device buyers across the board. Must justify outrageous expense for personal sanity soothing.

I see your point but the SE is a completely different form-factor than the 8 Plus. Comparing it the to 7 Plus is a better comparison.
 
Did Apple Marketing make a typo and everyone else just go along with it because they thought it acme from Tim?
 

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This thread went down hill quick!

No one gives two rat turds why you don't like the iPhone 8. Get what you want and everyone else can do the same. Those bezels would someone please paper cut my throat. ROTLFOL

I personally opted to get an iPhone 8 Plus and I don't buy my phones my company buys them. The iPhone 8 Plus is a vast improvement over the iPhone 6 Plus I had and therefore I am happy. Staying on topic, I do like the true tone display... wireless charging and this thing is really zippy by comparison. The other reason is that I got this version is because we (my job) have a lot of apps that currently use Touch ID and our corporate office has said they currently have no intent to use Face ID for authentication for at least a year or longer. I refuse to go back to typing in codes for authentication.

I am certainly not against the iPhone X and I hope all that want it are able to get one quickly and they enjoy it as much as I am my iPhone 8 Plus. I will eventually upgrade to that style iPhone, but just not ready to go that route just yet. I have kept this 6 Plus for 3 years and it's been a great phone. I expect it will be the same with the 8 Plus.
 
Hopefully those who actually wanted an 8 are loving their phones. Because I know damn well there are a bunch of you folks on here that literally just got an iPhone 8 because you couldn't wait 1 month for the X lol. Hopefully "regret-gate" as someone mentioned on here doesn't happen.
 
Hopefully those who actually wanted an 8 are loving their phones. Because I know damn well there are a bunch of you folks on here that literally just got an iPhone 8 because you couldn't wait 1 month for the X lol. Hopefully "regret-gate" as someone mentioned on here doesn't happen.

I think some likely have purchased the iPhone 8 and have no intent to keep it. However, given Apple's 14 day return window I think some will get it and end up keeping it because they will discover its a darn nice phone and do not want to send it back and then wait another several weeks if not longer for the iPhone X. Some will likely keep the 8 until the X comes out and then sell it. Some that end up with the 8 in leu of the X may just make the decision to keep the 8 and send the X back. Not everyone that gets the X is going to love it. Either way folks should be happy with their purchase!
 
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Why do people feel like there always HAS to be a good enough feature to upgrade the iPhone every year?
I am happy I don't feel the need to upgrade from my iPhone 7Plus to iPhone 8 or even iPhone X. Why should I be disappointed, that I can wait another year and get an even better upgrade? First world problems. Meanwhile my wife is sitting on her iPhone 6 (no S), and I will buy her the iPhone X, because I can't see that turtle in action anymore.

Fact is, the devices are immensely powerful and will move the whole market with all competition forward.
 
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People who don’t hace the money to buy item spend their days crapping on the head of people in the place where they live to feel better about themselves. See I can do pop psychology too huh!
You really do ruin your argument when you use elitist comments about not having enough money to buy a phone.
 
Gosh, you guys use so much energy on this argument when the fact is we are on the forth year of the same design. The forth year have started since few days ago. And believe it or not, it is the forth year. Forth year of the exact desig (minus antenna bands minor changes and glass back)
So....that is a fact.
As for the iPhone X, it is iPhone X and not iPhone 8.

It's the 4th year but it hasn't been 4 years. It's been 3 years. Fact.

iPhone X introduces a new design, THREE years after iPhone 6. Fact.

Admit it, you're frustrated. X is too expensive, comes in two months, will probably require to register on a waiting list, is underwhelming in every aspect and doesn't come in "The Laughing Cow" Salmon Pink.

So you can't brag about getting the latest and glittzitest.

Honestly, there's little incentive for the X, and the 8 only exists as a spin for the shortage of X.

Apple didn't fail spectacularly on an industrial level, they created an "exclusive" phone.

The only reason it's still an iPhone 6 case you're buying with an iPhone 8 is they didn't have enough X cases and screens to fit the 8´s internals into. So they created a bastard phone.

Say that.
Don't say they are "still offering an old design."

The new design is here. It's just that there aren't enough for everyone so Apple decided everybody should lose, especially those turning their heads toward a 7 for their upgrade (them storages and them prices...)
 
You know, Porsche does modernize its 911, while keeping the shape cues almost everyone recognizes and loves.

If you look at the last 4 major versions - the 993, 996, 996 and 991, it's obvious that design changes. This is not so obvious at all between the iPhone 6 to the 8, they basically look alike. Even minor Porsche revisions like 991.1 vs 991.2 have more changes (particularly inside the car) than say, the iPhone 6S vs the 7.

Apple has been running too long with this design and the problem with the iPhone 8 is that is looks really dated. It's back to bezel-land one more time. The design wasn't that nice to begin with, and now it's just cringe-inducing at that price.

But you get cookie points (Tim Cook doesn't award brownie points) for comparing a Chinese-made, run-of-the-mill consumer item with an iconic luxury sports car that only very few people can afford.
Not a bad analogy. Volkswagen Beetle works much better-designed by Ferdenand Porsche in 1934 and kept the same shape thru 1998. The U.S. started importing "bugs" in the early 1950's thru 1979 with the basic same shape throughout the run. Have no problem that my iPhone 8+ is the same "shape" as my iPhone 6+. Proven designs work the best. Beetle-history-876x535.jpg
 
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Return of the glass back is the best part. The iPhone 4 was an incredible design, and I definitely think this will hold up better than the previous design. Might make some of that case anxiety go away - I'd probably be brave enough to go naked from day 1. Something about the aluminium back always felt very fragile, as well as slippery! Don't think I'd feel that with a glass back. It's a shame they kept the edges aluminium (which is soft and will crumple/dent on impact), they could have given them the same brushed steel that the iPhone 4 had - which held up really well if I remember correctly.

Hopefully the glass back is something that sticks around for some years to come! Which it should if Apple want to keep wireless charging as a feature.

I wonder if this means we'll see the return of iPhone 4-style bumper cases, as people don't feel the need to protect the back so much!

The return of the glass back is great, just a shame about the camera bump, the reason many will still use a case. If they made an 8 with a glass back and no bump, it would be an awesome like the old 4 you used without a case and was fantastic
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It's the 4th year but it hasn't been 4 years. It's been 3 years. Fact.

iPhone X introduces a new design, THREE years after iPhone 6. Fact.

Admit it, you're frustrated. X is too expensive, comes in two months, will probably require to register on a waiting list, is underwhelming in every aspect and doesn't come in "The Laughing Cow" Salmon Pink.

So you can't brag about getting the latest and glittzitest.

Honestly, there's little incentive for the X, and the 8 only exists as a spin for the shortage of X.

Apple didn't fail spectacularly on an industrial level, they created an "exclusive" phone.

The only reason it's still an iPhone 6 case you're buying with an iPhone 8 is they didn't have enough X cases and screens to fit the 8´s internals into. So they created a bastard phone.

Say that.
Don't say they are "still offering an old design."

The new design is here. It's just that there aren't enough for everyone so Apple decided everybody should lose, especially those turning their heads toward a 7 for their upgrade (them storages and them prices...)

2014 - iPhone 6 (19 September)
2015 - iPhone 6S
2016 - iPhone 7
2017 - iPhone 8

It's actually been over three years, that is a fact, and as the 8 has launched , it's now the 4th year, so same design 4 years, even if apple pulls the iPhone 8 tomorrow, it will still be a product that sold in 4 years in a row with the same design.

Also , do you Maths how you like, it's never going to be 3 years, we are now officially in the 4th year with the product launched .... the starting date is 19 sept 2014....

Though yes, the iPhone x was introduced OVER three years after the 6. It's never going to be 3 years. That is a fact. In the 4th year of the iPhone cycle the x is introduced , it's still the 4th phone ..... and with the 8 sold as a new version, 4th year product design
 
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So how would you re-design it? Tall and skinny iPhone 5? Tall and skinny iPhone 4/4s? The reality is that there aren't many more options to completely revolutionize phone design. They all look the same, except for a few gimmicks like snap on accessories or a power button on the back.
Hop into any of the zillion phone shops that sell Chinese phones, who have less gifted designers but came up with far better stuff lately.
(oops, wait....they copied the iPhone X in advance)
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Not a bad analogy. Volkswagen Beetle works much better-designed by Ferdenand Porsche in 1934 and kept the same shape thru 1998. The U.S. started importing "bugs" in the early 1950's thru 1979 with the basic same shape throughout the run. Have no problem that my iPhone 8+ is the same "shape" as my iPhone 6+. Proven designs work the best. View attachment 720842
If you make a comparison, do it right
VW's retro business is just wink to the past - they can't exist from that. Their main business depends on superb design in very short cycles across a multitude of product lines
A company like Apple at many times VW's size, should be able to do the same or more. But with so many gifted designers they actually perform mediocre if anything at all when it comes to innovative design, counting the number of (refurb) products that they support versus most carmakers
Apple can live by that lamentation strategy because they hardly face any competition in their premium price segment (which clarifies that their lead designer had been now "working" at Apple Park trees, door locks etc. lately)
It's both smart and very sad at the same time (from the rebel/disruptive startup position => moloch/incumbent giant that always plays the safe cards - as it can't afford a single failure)
 
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You really do ruin your argument when you use elitist comments about not having enough money to buy a phone.

I didn’t say my assessment was true, it’s just « feels » and pop psychology and that guy could just be a rich loser bonehead, every option is possible when doing those snap assessments.
;-)

I actually don’ Know what possesses people to register on an apple forum and say these kind of things; it is a mystery.
I rarely seen these kind of things in neutral or android oriented forums. Somehow Apple makes these people angry.

My comments may not always Be stellar but îm at least in the right place to make them. What’s that guy’s excuse?
 
I'm suggesting that calling something 4 years old when it is 3 years old is in fact, wrong.
Based on how the other phone companies have developed the design landscape, it feels like so much longer. But hey - we celebrate 10 years of bezels, for that part. Congrats to all followers.
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I just watched a drop test comparison of the iPhone 8 and the note 8. The new glass back was a little disappointing, but I agree a bumper case would be really interesting to see on these new phones!
Just incredible to select glass - the most breakable material - as a back cover. Just because they're incapable to produce 2.000 better materials that they've patented in the right amount in the right timeframe.
(just spare me all the gorilla godzilla marketing nonsense - made to ignore that it's stil glass...)
 
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iPhone 8 is a great phone no doubt about it. BUT, the design of it? Just put it side by side with S8 or LG G6... iphone looks like a budget android phone compared to those two. Sure, the X version will be on par when it comes to "atractivness" but still, Apple the current iphone 8 design is outdated badly... i mean, lets be honest, this current design wasnt even great when iphone 6 first came out.
 
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